fuck Georgia

[Dinglesberry]

Re: fuck Georgia

Power and oppression.

Ok I can see this and thats basically what I was leaning towards lolz, you're right, its straight up just to control what other people can and can't do, and to feel like theyre in a position of power.

I don't really know much about the issue.. Luckily, I'm from Canada where things like abortion are fully legal and governed by the state and everything seems just fine..

I just read on a wiki article about Abortion in canada:

The Canadian affiliate of Planned Parenthood, now known as the Canadian Federation for Sexual Health, is also pro-choice, and while it does refer pregnant women to abortion providers, it does not have a history (unlike its American counterpart) of engaging in widespread litigation in favour of legalized abortion.

Like lol ok so basically they dont "support it" but still give the resources for people who are seeking it as an option, so all in all Canada does what America should be doing, yet again

[devonin]

Re: fuck Georgia

It doesn't need to have a history of litigation in favour of legalized abortion because there are no laws limiting it. And the laws that used to exist to limit it were struck down as unconstitutional.

[Dinglesberry]

Re: fuck Georgia

i'm a wild

ur a beta boi

edit: also lmao when you put it that way, the article sounds biased as hell lolll

"ok so this party didn't provide any explicit pro/anti abortion rhetoric... oh yea by the way in canada thats not even a debate at all so they have no reason to provide it, but yea since they didn't pick a stance we'll just say theyre 'neutral' to make it seem like theyre not for abortion ahaha semantics are sweet"

[inDheart]

Re: fuck Georgia

ur a beta boi

edit: also lmao when you put it that way, the article sounds biased as hell lolll

"ok so this party didn't provide any explicit pro/anti abortion rhetoric... oh yea by the way in canada thats not even a debate at all so they have no reason to provide it, but yea since they didn't pick a stance we'll just say theyre 'neutral' to make it seem like theyre not for abortion ahaha semantics are sweet"

i don't see any implication that they're neutral in what you quoted

or that they didn't pick a stance (it says the organization is pro-choice)

[mellon_collie]

Re: fuck Georgia

i don't see any implication that they're neutral in what you quoted

or that they didn't pick a stance (it says the organization is pro-choice)

nah, the conclusion Dev and Dingles came to is right

That wording is extremely specific. At least in Ontario, there is no way abortions would be able to be provided by private clinics; to "refer patients to abortion providers" in Ontario means "get them a referral to a hospital, the same as any other procedure would need"

That entire paragraph is completely unnecessary.

[inDheart]

Re: fuck Georgia

i guess i'm just not interpreting the lack of much legal defense as being a completely neutral stance; i see what dev's saying as just that it's not controversial or widely contested anymore

my state keeps trying to chip away at abortion rights here and it's kind of obnoxious, like they're just trying things to see what they can get away with. they aren't getting through a heartbeat bill anytime soon though. fuck georgia

[.Gazelle.]

Re: fuck Georgia

galaxy brain takes

[the sun fan]

Re: fuck Georgia

Brian Kemp's main motivation is to have his name known, not to subjugate women.

[Charu]

Re: fuck Georgia

I know I'm late to the party here, but wow this bill sure does stink like rotten eggs.

Insert phallic object into the buttocks of Georgia

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: fuck Georgia

I know I'm late to the party here, but wow this bill sure does stink like rotten eggs.

Insert phallic object into the buttocks of Georgia

The more this bill is looked into, the worse it gets.

One (but obviously not the only) major contributing factor to a miscarriage is poor nutrition. Poor women would be at risk of being prosecuted with the bill's investigation clause because they have trouble affording food with decent nutritional value. Sugary drinks, for example, are cheap but very unhealthy. Basically, punish women who are struggling financially instead of giving them aid for better nutrition which would help lower an important contributing factor to miscarriages.

Also, if there is an abusive relationship between a man and a woman, the man could end up causing physical harm to the woman and potentially cause a miscarriage. If there isn't enough evidence to show that the man contributed to the miscarriage, then the woman is the one who still gets punished and the man gets away with it.

Or a rapist impregnates a woman and then injures her, inducing a miscarriage. Rapist not only tries to damage the woman's body with a pregnancy but the woman also gets punished with prison time even if the rapist receives a punishment.

Do you know of any women who've actually asserted that they want that?

And, once again because you somehow seem to keep missing it: The people who are anti-abortion / anti-choice DO NOT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE ZYGOTE/FETUS/POTENTIAL FUTURE HUMAN. AT ALL.

They will accept on redirecting literally 0 dollars to find these new methods, they will allocate no resources, no manpower, no tax revenue to providing pregnant people MORE options. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THAT AT ALL.

The idea is a way to approach the discussion about how the procedure for an abortion is carried out. Currently what has been established as the safest method ends up in the death of the fetus (or embryo) and legislation is not what would work towards an alternative. The direct blocker is something you and DaBackpack have mentioned earlier:

The problem is "People legislating what other people can do with their own bodies"

If they'd just -stop doing that- there'd be nothing to address.

99% of people don't think like that. Of course it would be a lot better if there was artificial incubation, the issue has and always will be about female autonomy.

I think we all agree that trying to handle abortion in the courtroom is inappropriate and counterproductive. What I'm suggesting is probably reliant on that narrative to be resolved, although that appears to be its own beast entirely which is unfortunate.

[mellon_collie]

Re: fuck Georgia

The reality of the matter is, killing the embryo/fetus is not just the safest and easiest method, it's also the only practical thing to do. even if there were a way to use artificial incubation, who does the baby end up with at the end of the incubation period? How many women would be able to do this before the system becomes overwhelmed with the amount of children the state now has to take care of?

There are already enough kids in foster care. Having a huge influx of fresh babies would put such a huge strain on the system, and probably make adopting older kids out even more difficult than it already is.

Not to mention a lot of women would probably struggle with this decision even more than an abortion. It would feel like abandoning your child, knowing that you left your child to grow up in an artificial incubator and then taken care of by the state. I see it causing a massive amount of guilt. and it would feel very unnerving to know that your child could be out there, grown up without you and you simply have no idea about them. It would cause a lot of guilt that is not there when an abortion takes care of it.

[Svaz]

Re: fuck Georgia

Just a simple passerby coming through to offer a “fuck Georgia” on my way through, pay me no mind

The font is also Georgia

[dAnceguy117]

Re: fuck Georgia

fuck Georgia

[aperson]

Re: fuck Georgia

fuck georgia but don't fuck in georgia

[MinaciousGrace]

Re: fuck Georgia

oh look at you people caring about things

how adorable