05-15-2019, 12:18 PM | #101 |
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please relocate your /r/iamverysmart takes to another thread tia
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05-15-2019, 12:54 PM | #102 | |
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I mean that with 100% sincerity thats a scary thought now
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on a note more related to the topic of the thread, this legislation does have practical impact on my living as a male in new york gilliabrand is going to milk the shit out of it and maybe even get a boost from doing so but it's mostly going to remind me of how flagrantly she lied when she declared she wouldn't run for president 2 weeks before midterms and then not 2 months later declared an exploratory committee, which of course, she had to have most of the pieces in/falling into place around, i don't know, probably 2 weeks before mid terms and then that's going to remind me about how everyone laughs it off like starting your presidential campaign by flatly lying about the fact that you are going to have one is just some giggle worthy thing that we expect elected representatives to do and of course nobody is going to hold her to account for it and that annoys me and maybe even makes me a little angry, but then i realize that's why half the population doesn't give a shit about government or civics or exercising the voting rights most people in the world don't have, limited as they potentially may be because it's all full of shit, and enabling people who are full of shit makes you full of shit, and then what you get is a government of shit which you deserve either you care and it matters to you and you do something about it, or you don't binary choice full disclosure i didn't read any of the thread i just wanted to whine about my senator and im like really bored |
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05-15-2019, 04:21 PM | #104 |
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fuck georgia AND alabama :sun:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alabama...st-2019-05-14/ one spicy headline Last edited by gold stinger; 05-15-2019 at 04:21 PM.. |
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why the fuck do you think we care what impact this has on white males in new york? lmfao
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05-15-2019, 05:14 PM | #106 | |
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The religious dogma is ridiculous since the Bible doesn't even take a stance on abortion at all. Christians will preach about the sanctity of life and that life is sacred because of its connection to God but the New Testament makes no statement about "when life begins." The Old Testament makes several references to life beginning with "breath" (Genesis) and, in Exodus, a miscarriage was treated via a financial penalty, not lex talionis. There's a commonly cited passage in Deuteronomy which is used as a tacit disapproval of abortion, but even so, Jesus dying in the New Testament served to absolve all of his believers from Mosaic law (i.e. the Law of Moses as described in the Old Testament, this is why we can eat shellfish now despite being banned in Leviticus). And SOMEHOW, abortion has become a major talking point for them, despite no passages unambiguously denouncing abortion. There ARE, however, plenty of passages describing the subordination of wives to their husbands, which seems to be a consistent theme in Christian rhetoric. So yeah, there's an agenda here. |
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05-15-2019, 05:23 PM | #107 | |
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2) There's no doubt this is an echo chamber but it serves a positive purpose, to relieve frustration and find solidarity when it seems like the world is going crazy around us. |
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05-15-2019, 05:30 PM | #108 | |
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05-15-2019, 06:13 PM | #109 |
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mina is bitching about 14 year olds not being able to get abortions in random non-ny states affecting new yorks senatorial race
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Also not sure why you need to make this thread about Gillibrand or about you. It's about women having their bodily autonomy repeatedly denied by a GOP government that's steered by evangelical Christians. Maybe get your narcissism checked out?
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Then he went on about the following point: Even if someone brings forward convincing arguments, facts, whatever -- that ultimately doesn't matter. If it's seen as an attack on the faith, it's essentially an attack of everything that person knows. And especially if it's "against the word of God". So in other words, it doesn't even matter what the purpose is. There is this ongoing legal battle that is done just because. You'll hear statements like "stop killing babies!" from vocal pro-life people but then not hear about goals or actions. I posted a question about how a ban on abortion would play out, with the assumption that the legislation stays in place. Every response I got was from a pro-choice person. You've got all these legal battles going on to make abortion illegal, yet no pro-life person seems to discuss how it's going to end up. It's fighting for a cause without taking into account the effects of the actions. You'll have these same pro-life people saying "actions have consequences" and then disappearing when anyone asks about how it would play out. Don't get me wrong -- I still keep an open mind about this subject. It's heartbreaking to see so much time, money, and effort spent on something in a courtroom that could instead be an opportunity to collaborate on.
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my mom's pro-life because of religion so i agree with that take wholeheartedly. we talked about it for the first time recently because of all these states taking a dump. my clearly stating i was pro-choice made her uncomfortable
i've been thinking that challenging roe vs. wade like this could be a political diversionary tactic. like, it's an important issue, but there are other things that the government's trying to do at the same time that are more contentious (e.g. they're trying to fight with iran y'all) echo chambers can be good but they're also harmful in a sense, which i know you know. those who actively use the forums on ffr tend to think the same way and trash on those who don't. the world's likely not going crazy /now/ per se; this is a movement that's been going on for a while. only to people who are around other pro-choice people all the time (admittedly i am myself) will this seem like it's coming out of nowhere
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I know it doesnt look this way but this was Mina trying to be nice, at least I think it was
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I think we can acknowledge there to be no surprise as much as we want no part in this world controlling some one else quite the opposite has to be true in universal contrast and relative to subsequent reality how various channels come into contact with each other. I had asked the previous question to you from a bias and saturated vantage point only with the intent to extend the dialog away from vitriol and to share thoughts of potential nuance in an as you say a crazy world around us. Last edited by V-Ormix; 05-15-2019 at 07:06 PM.. |
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1. Present legislation where killing a fetus is equivalent to murder then bring the decision to the supreme court to de facto overturn Roe v. Wade by fucking up its balancing test. 2. Find some way to overturn Griswold v. Connecticut (and as a corollary make contraceptives illegal entirely which evangelical christians as a voting bloc are also for)
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Also I don't think this was the point of your post, although this thread doesn't really resemble an echo chamber (at least, from what I've seen online). Echo chambers tend to just be a massive dumpster fire of insults, where as in this thread there was a lot of criticism although in a thoughtful way -- even if it was from people who are of a similar perspective. I also keep an open mind with anyone that identifies as pro-life. Although if you ask me, the whole pro-choice/pro-life labeling should go away in an ideal world. Any time I come across "ANTI-CHOICE FORCED BIRTHER!" and "PRO-DEATH BABY KILLER!" post chains, I immediately leave. It's seriously not worth it.
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legalize bernie
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