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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #811
    Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

    people who are being accused simply don't realize how simple it is to truly solve the problem and satisfy everyone who is calling you out -- there's nothing wrong with people wanting to see proof of what you can do if you start suddenly coming out of the woodwork, nor is there anything wrong with people getting aggressive if you continue to deny/ignore requests.

    as a person being accused, you have a right to explain your cause as to how you're getting scores, mentioning any sort of "skillboosts" (I air quote this as most cheaters pull the SM card) or extended practice - if nobody believes you, then you have to show them that you are actually doing as you said. sometimes, even video proof isn't sufficient (see: Anaru) -- thankfully, internal tools can help with that.

    if you're willing to put forth the effort to show that you're a legitimate player, players will respect that. is it a serious deal? absolutely, to anyone who actually cares about their progress within the game.

    in other words: anyone who is saying that people are being too serious, or anyone who is like "popcorn.gif" and isn't really contributing any sort of proof needs to just stop.

    EDIT: I will always mention leonid in any sort of example that I do, because he's the one that blew the most people away in the shortest period - after he and I were duking it out in the top division of the Fire Kai tournament (a long time back), I snagged my only ever non-AAA rank 1, a blackflag on I Hate the 80s. Thinking that I was safe and gonna win that round, I got a bit arrogant and it bit me right in the ass, because he flagged it back. At that point, people were just outright saying that he was BS (including our very own Sprite-, haha). After the BS calls stacked, he started making videos, and he started doing so constantly.

    if you can find a single person who thinks leonid is BS now, by all means, do so.

    It's a testament to what proof can really do.
    Last edited by TC_Halogen; 03-4-2012, 10:24 AM.

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    • SKG_Scintill
      Spun a twirly fruitcake,
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Feb 2009
      • 3877

      #812
      Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

      For one man doth, happenest all life probable





      Originally posted by bluguerilla
      So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
      ___
      . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
      . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
      .

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      • Ksl33zy24
        The New York Yankees
        • Dec 2009
        • 1047

        #813
        Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

        This is my favorite thread. Please don't ever delete any post, ty. (:
        it was urgent because i wanted it fixed fast.

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        • krunkykai22
          <3 Jumpstream <3
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2006
          • 5436

          #814
          Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

          Originally posted by ssbmchamp
          I'm not trying to argue with people. Nor am I a cheater. If people want to continue to judge/question me, so be it.
          Originally posted by ssbmchamp
          I'm fully aware that people are going to bring up arguements about some of my scores. However my views will continue to remain the same towards this game and if people can't accept the way I play, well then sucks for them. There are some scores from others that I sometimes question in my head but there's no point in posting them and starting an arguement, unless it's something completely obvious like Anaru. Unless that's the case I just accept what other people got because there is nothing I can do, not to mention i would have no "proof" AND i don't actually know the person.

          Listen dude, I'm not going to sit here and write a full blown essay, but I will simply say this:

          You love FFR? You love to play the game for fun? Cool, save a god damn replay and prove you aren't cheating. I mean, if it's out of fun, then these scores should be legitimate right? I don't see how you can TEEN GOOD Eclipse AND TEEN GOOD a song like DeVour. Those 2 songs alone prove intensive skill. If you cannot prove that you got them scores naturally without cheating, it just proves you are a fake. Which, at this point, is what I'm leaning towards because it doesn't take long to replay a song and click that little "Save" button at the bottom right of the Velocity Engine to have proof.

          So, in conclusion, stop ****ing posting in here, and get to the ****ing replays. My regards to Rushy's Put up or Shut up. Simple.

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          • SKG_Scintill
            Spun a twirly fruitcake,
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2009
            • 3877

            #815
            Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

            It's like refusing the breathalizer test





            Originally posted by bluguerilla
            So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
            ___
            . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
            . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
            .

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            • RuGuru
              FFR Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 397

              #816
              Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

              Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
              It's like refusing the breathalizer test
              .....

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              • ssbmchamp
                Can't improve at this game.
                • Oct 2006
                • 1128

                #817
                Originally posted by iironiic
                ssbm: I actually read your long explanation and nowhere did I find anything that explains your inconsistency of your scores, particularly the FGO+ scores. If I am understanding you correctly, all you are talking about is your reason to only play the harder songs and not fix your easier stats because "a person is as good as their best rank." But even so, your FGO stats aren't consistent enough in my opinion... I'm sure many would also agree with me. Care to explain about your FGO+ scores in general?
                My patience level = 0

                Getting AAA's = don't care

                Average rank = don't care

                Trying to improve scores = don't care

                I don't recall saying anywhere that i'm trying to "fix" my FGO scores, I simply played a few by choice

                Is there an FFR rule that states a player must be consistent that i'm missing here?

                Clearly people are not fully reading my previous posts because i constantly find myself repeating the same explanations.

                Not sure why people can't accept the fact I choose to be different, rather than play hardcore, frustrate myself, and be consistent.

                Originally posted by PriestREA
                It seems that every time someone asks to post scores regarding yourself, you bring a steadfast, hostile and negative attitude towards the people that are demanding evidence. Now, I may not be able to check level stats, but I could tell you if people are expecting a short two or three minute video justifying ONE of your FGO scores, do it to avoid further issues. I'm sure everyone would consider your legitimacy after doing such a thing. The tone and syntax you use while speaking only tells me that you're upset that people are putting you on the front lines of questioning. More so, it tells me that you're trying to back up yourself using this language and walls of text. Just post a bloody video. It's a one stop solution to end all the questioning surrounding you. Every time you post something so defensive and hostile on the forums, it only serves to have the other FFR'ers question you relentlessly.
                sorry if i appear to be acting hostile, that's how i am for everything in life if i get called for BS, just my instincts i suppose. anyway, i'm like 99% sure that i developed carpal tunnel over this past week so i'm gonna have to take a serious break or just try learning left hand index to get some points for my GT cuz my right hand is shot.
                Last edited by nois-or-e; 03-4-2012, 01:15 PM.

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                • Elite Ninja
                  Kawaii Desu
                  Event Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4828

                  #818
                  Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                  If you were legit then you wouldn't have a problem saving a replay by now for us to check for legitimacy. Seeing that you refuse to save a replay highly suggests that you are cheating your scores. Simple as that dude. You keep making yourself look more and more suspicious and eventually it will get to the point of being blacklisted or banned until you take action instead of just arguing about it.

                  Didn't see your second post. Hope your hand recovers soon.
                  Last edited by Elite Ninja; 03-4-2012, 12:05 PM.
                  Best AAA = Aballava(?) + Serious Shit (97)
                  Best SDG = Fushigi Usagi Milk Tei 8-0-0-3 (101)
                  Best Score = do i smile? 3-0-0-3 (100)

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                  • One Winged Angel
                    Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 10837

                    #819
                    Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                    oh shucks I hope your carpal tunnel gets better soon!!!!


                    Originally posted by ilikexd
                    i want to be cucked by cirno

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                    • DossarLX ODI
                      Batch Manager
                      Game Manager
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15004

                      #820
                      Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                      Originally posted by ssbmchamp
                      Trying to improve scores = don't care

                      I don't recall saying anywhere that i'm trying to "fix" my FGO scores, I simply played a few by choice

                      Is there an FFR rule that states a player must be consistent that i'm missing here?
                      What's confusing everyone is why you have heavily mashed scores (see scores like Grist, Mathsma Attack, etc.) and then suddenly have weird boocount scores with good accuracy like WWE, Eclipse, and DeVouR. Along with no replays (qqwref actually made a post about the boocounts earlier)

                      It isn't even about "fixing" your FGO scores, it's just absolutely weird that you decide to mash through files seemingly random and then you decide to do high ones. This has nothing to do with AAAing, because none of these FGO scores being mentioned are AAAs, they're just in general good accuracy.
                      Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 03-4-2012, 12:14 PM.
                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                      • SKG_Scintill
                        Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3877

                        #821
                        Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                        You attack with your BS Calls? I activate my Carpal Tunnel trap card!
                        Oh puh-lease... even if it were true, you're too defensive towards your scores.





                        Originally posted by bluguerilla
                        So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                        ___
                        . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                        . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                        .

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                        • RuGuru
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 397

                          #822
                          Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                          Now he has carpal tunnel.

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                          • XxMidigamixX
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2040

                            #823
                            Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                            Ah yes, the classic Rubix excuse~ When in deep shit, just say you have CTS~
                            Click to join!





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                            • DossarLX ODI
                              Batch Manager
                              Game Manager
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15004

                              #824
                              Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                              Wait, so not only does he not explain why he randomly decides to mash (Along with no replays), he also tries using the CTS excuse (also lol'd at Scintill's post)

                              No real person IRL suddenly gets the ability to score like that and then get that condition right after. If you really do have it, it was from other strenuous activities. Essentially it would be like me saying "oh I'm able to AAA RATO but got carpal right after".
                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                              • ssbmchamp
                                Can't improve at this game.
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 1128

                                #825
                                Re: Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

                                Until I read this thread, I didn't even know you could save replays. In fact when it comes to knowing how to do things, or where certain things are located on this site I am probably one of the least knowlegable members.....I log in, load up the engine and start playing...that's it. Just this past year i finally figured out you could change song speeds and configure whatever keys you want to play with. I never visited forums or any other places on this site so i probably don't know where a shitload of things are on here.

                                Also for everyone, especially dossar, you are a bunch of douche bags. "OH NOW HE PULLS THE CARPAL TUNNEL." shut the **** up....i went from playing this game and getting 25-50 mil a day to getting 5.3 bil in february alone, THEN i started my job back up the last week of february...dossar, wanna know what my job is bud? its building walls, sidewalks, etc out of bricks/stone.....material that prolly weighs more than your weak ass and i do this for 9 hours a day, something NONE of you people could prolly last more than a day doing, so **** each and everyone of you saying "on now he gets it" because that's ****ing disrespectful mocking/doubting someone in pain.

                                also @ dossar, i recall many months ago you saying "i usually play each song once to get a feel for it, then from there i try to AAA it.".......well im obv not as good as you so my first run-through(s) consisted of just getting the FC and from there, if i felt ambitious, i would attempt to play them seriously but got bored of that so just decided to go for points.

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