jTWG LXXVIII (Gam red) - Welcoe to - Page 46

**reuben_tate** · 07-21-2015, 10:53 PM

If wolves decide to not nightkill, the information we gain is inconclusive because if greg targets X, we wouldn't be able to tell between the following:
1) the wolves decided to not send a nightkill
2) X is a wolf that was stopped
3) X was the wolf's target causing X to be was saved

**AragakiAyase** · 07-21-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Hmmm see any live wolf would want to be lock cleared in a perfect world but talking about it more gives the remaining wolf too much information to work with.

Trust your gut sunfan

You can't actually lock clear a wolf though unless a town lies for some inexplicable reason or someone screws up mechanics and misclears someone

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 10:54 PM

**XelNya** · 07-21-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I actually 100% believe this

Take Xel out of the pool and go with AA or Benguin

Don't just take me out for that like thats just not good tbh

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

You can't actually lock clear a wolf though unless a town lies for some inexplicable reason or someone screws up mechanics and misclears someone

Medics can falsify a clearing by outing they saved him.

It's happened in the past from my experience and it is an absolute terror having that happen.

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XelNya

Don't just take me out for that like thats just not good tbh

It's more I don't think you are another sole surviving wolf in nearly back to back gamea.

**AragakiAyase** · 07-21-2015, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Medics can falsify a clearing by outing they saved him.

It's happened in the past from my experience and it is an absolute terror having that happen.

I'm not sure I understand how this would work but idk if now is the time to explain

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 10:56 PM

Mfw sunfan targets me

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm not sure I understand how this would work but idk if now is the time to explain

If a nightkill didn't happen for some unknown reason (even not sending a kill) and a medic outs that they saved x player and x player is a wolf, the medic just practically cleared the wolf.

**AragakiAyase** · 07-21-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by _Zenith_

If a nightkill didn't happen for some unknown reason (even not sending a kill) and a medic outs that they saved x player and x player is a wolf, the medic just practically cleared the wolf.

Oh fuck

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 10:59 PM

Stahp posting

**reuben_tate** · 07-21-2015, 10:59 PM

If I die, I would take a serious look at AA.

Notice how quick he was to say that there was a doctor when there was no kill on the first night. I'm saying this is a slip on his part: from HIS perspective, assuming he believed zenith's JK claim, he KNEW (or thought he knew) there was a doctor, however, he didn't take into consideration the perspectives of others because this "fact" can not deduced from a VT perspective.

I'm not going to spell out the argument step-by-step, but essentially, the only way AA could know there was indeed a doctor is if he was a wolf or he was a doctor himself.

Also, as a wolf, it'd make sense that he'd want to side with me in order to take down the most active and possibly influential player this game (i.e. Zenith).

**YoshL** · 07-21-2015, 11:06 PM

IN the night

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**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 11:07 PM

Woah absolutely did not see that happening

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 11:08 PM

Sunfan since you neglected to post who you chose can you please say it when you get back

I pray that it wasn't on Ben too now.

**AragakiAyase** · 07-21-2015, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by reuben_tate

If I die, I would take a serious look at AA.

Notice how quick he was to say that there was a doctor when there was no kill on the first night. I'm saying this is a slip on his part: from HIS perspective, assuming he believed zenith's JK claim, he KNEW (or thought he knew) there was a doctor, however, he didn't take into consideration the perspectives of others because this "fact" can not deduced from a VT perspective.

I'm not going to spell out the argument step-by-step, but essentially, the only way AA could know there was indeed a doctor is if he was a wolf or he was a doctor himself.

Also, as a wolf, it'd make sense that he'd want to side with me in order to take down the most active and possibly influential player this game (i.e. Zenith).

This is a good point but there's one issue here:

It can be deduced from a VT perspective which is how I came up with that answer. I believed Zeniths JK claim. There was no nightkill, but it couldn't have been because of JK because I couldn't have sent in the kill. Therefore there is a doctor who made a save.

**AragakiAyase** · 07-21-2015, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Sunfan since you neglected to post who you chose can you please say it when you get back

I pray that it wasn't on Ben too now.

It can't have been Ben because he would have been saved. JK is roleblock and doctor.

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 11:10 PM

**_Zenith_** · 07-21-2015, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

It can't have been Ben because he would have been saved. JK is roleblock and doctor.

Right.

So how do you feel that whoever the last wolf is just hard incriminated you?

Also Sunfan is remaining blue alive and we should be following him wholeheartedly

**AragakiAyase** · 07-21-2015, 11:11 PM

Also I said I wouldn't stay up but I did fuck
Going to sleep

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