FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 3

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by Ziergdsx18

*ahem*, id like to take a small moment to say that


0 is ****ing amazing jimerax i <3 U !!

thx

this


too bad I'm too tired to get any better than 5 on it )o:

[bballa48]

I didn't read this thread yet....

but holy crap Amen Iraq is not easier than Spoon. For the love of God.

FGO, no doubt.

Edit:

Wait, Spoon was originally a 10? I am losing faith in you people....

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by bballa48

I didn't read this thread yet....

but holy crap Amen Iraq is not easier than Spoon. For the love of God.

FGO, no doubt.

I'm glad to see at least one person say this holy cow. I thought it was more on the borderline of fmo/fgo and then I see people saying it's easy -_-

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by bballa48

:

Wait, Spoon was originally a 10? I am losing faith in you people....

It wasn't released as a 10.

[DarknessXoXLight]

Let's stick together, yeah yeah yeah~*~*

[TC_Halogen]

holy shit really?

It feels SO much faster than that. That's an interesting point to add.

[psychoangel691]

Really the borders are just skewed in general. There's always something on the 10 side some think should be an 11 and stuff on the 11 side that people think should be a 10 *cough*novo mundo*cough* Plus it doesn't help that we all excel at different things. I happen to be good with rolls so for me Finder is like a cake walk in comparison to 0, but then again I don't compare the two because the chart structures are completely different. They stress different skills. I don't know how we can ever get an accurate rating system when difficulty is in fact subjective to an extent.

[leonid]

Rate jack files higher than roll files if more people suck at jacks than at rolls.
In other words... stick to the current difficulty until lots of people (like more than 50) complain

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by leonid

Rate jack files higher than roll files if more people excel at rolls than jacks.
In other words... stick to the current difficulty until lots of people (like more than 50) complain

The last two threads people seemed to be pretty upset that the rating wasn't changed after only maybe 10 had said they wanted a change. I'd hate to imagine how it would be waiting for it to get to 50 -_-

[TC_Halogen]

I think the reasoning behind JX's rating of Kono Spoon was that the structure of all of the faster patterns were very easy - it's literally straight rolling/split-rolling, and nothing else. The ratings on that file can fluctuate ALL over the place depending on the person.

[stavie33]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

I think the reasoning behind JX's rating of Kono Spoon was that the structure of all of the faster patterns were very easy - it's literally straight rolling/split-rolling, and nothing else. The ratings on that file can fluctuate ALL over the place depending on the person.

Yeah, I just cannot do that file, while I know if I put the time I did whoring Kono Spoon into Amen Iraq, I'd have the AAA in a day.

Originally Posted by leonid

Have them send petition or something -_-
Personally I don't understand why some people care SO ****ING MUCH about difficulties. Difficulty rating is just a number... if people find a file difficult, they know it's difficult, regardless of what the rating says

This has always been a good question, because to me difficulty means everything, and I have no idea why. I think it came from DDR, when playing a 10 just meant so much, and have things like Arabiata so gruesomely misplaced really made people mad, and since I was a kid, higher difficulty made the song cooler, but running into a 7 than was harder than an 8 or 9 felt really stupid and discouraging, especially when progressing through songs, and finding easy 8's just felt dumb as well. The game with the stupidest rating mistakes is rock band, and though some people really don't some definitely do, like me, because it also implies the trickiness of the file from a look. People can say 'how hard is x song on guitar' and a response that 'it's the highest difficulty, it's really tricky IMO' makes it sound more impressive and intimidating than 'it's a 5 but it should be way higher, I guess it's just easier for some people'. I never knew why I cared and I still don't, but all I know is I do care and organization has always been a HUGE pet peeve of mine, I have very bad OCD, but I doubt it has much to do with the difficulty ordering, since OCD isn't like Monk and stuff, but still, if I care enough about difficulties to obsess, well maybe the compulsion is to complain like a bitch XD

[leonid]

Have them send petition or something -_-
Personally I don't understand why some people care SO ****ING MUCH about difficulties. Difficulty rating is just a number... if people find a file difficult, they know it's difficult, regardless of what the rating says

[leonid]

Sorry but could you rephrase that so it's not your 12374892734912378417234897th wall of text I think you can make it like three lines

[stavie33]

Originally Posted by leonid

Sorry but could you rephrase that so it's not your 12374892734912378417234897th wall of text I think you can make it like three lines

I'll try to make it three lines, let me know how I do.

[Elite Ninja]

Finder - Enjoyed playing it. Only thing stopping me from AAAing it is the first roll lol. I will take the time to figure out how to hit it later and when I do I will get the AAA.

0 (piano version) - I say keep as an 11 because even though the jumpstream isnt as dense as AA it still provides other stuff such as mini jacks and framers etc. I enjoyed the jumpstream very much in this chart :3

Amen Iraq - lol I suck at this chart so much. There are so many akward patterns especially near the middle-endish part. I find this to definetly be in the high FMO/low FGO area.

[rushyrulz]

AAAing 11s means a lot to some people and AAAing a 10 could mean next to nothing to the same person.

Reviews for all the charts now that I've played them all:

D1 - Pretty fun, going to be a challenge for D1
D2 - I'm amazed at how awesome this song and chart were, absolutely terrific.
D3 - Quite a fun file, the 24th stream at the end was neat
D4 - rololololololololololawkward
D5 - Songs like this shouldn't be stepped period.
D6 - Very fun file minus the jumpglut and crazy hand shit at the end.

[ichliebekase]

Difficulties are just a number, yet I had to keep thinking to myself that Fall Silently was a 9 to not psyche myself out xD

It's all mind power. Just imagine in your head that it's the difficulty you want it, and voila.

[dragon890x]

Originally Posted by ichliebekase

It's all mind power. Just imagine in your head that it's the difficulty you want it, and voila.

So that's how Rubix got his vROFL AAA. :O

-vROFL is a 1, vROFL is a 1, vROFL is a 1-
Is it working yet? D:

[bmah]

I think what stavie's trying to say is that some people care a lot about difficulties because the difficulties hold the key to some people's sense of accomplishment. Therefore, when you increase the difficulty of a file, doing well on the song is that much more of a pat on the back for said player*. Not to mention, some might say that the difficulty of a song psychologically will affect their performance on it.


*GOOD FOR YOU

[stavie33]

Originally Posted by bmah

I think what stavie's trying to say is that some people care a lot about difficulties because the difficulties hold the key to some people's sense of accomplishment. Therefore, when you increase the difficulty of a file, doing well on the song is that much more of a pat on the back for said player*. Not to mention, some might say that the difficulty of a song psychologically will affect their performance on it.


*GOOD FOR YOU

it's less the accomplishment and more the psychological aspect I was getting at. Playing a really hard lower level file is harder to do because you get so easily discouraged when you can't do something around the difficulty level of songs you can do and everyone else is doing fine but you don't know why you aren't, when it's really a more borderline file than it lets on. Or a really hard file is much easier and then you overshoot tons of others in that range. Consistency in difficulty is honestly more for developing players than pros, so they have an idea of what to expect and what's in that songs difficulty range, and from there which songs they can and can't do. Pro's have explored the spectrum, so it doesn't matter, but the newer players could easily get bogged up on an FMO stuck in VC territory and feel like it's either just him or the songs misplaced.