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Because all that "Suite No. 2 in B minor, BWV 1067" is just lookup data that identifies the piece. Nobody outside of the classical music community is going to remember a song by that number. Having many songs with similar notation will only make things harder to find. It may be useful to have that information listed somewhere, but the name of the song is not the place - and if you absolutely need to put it there, it should be after the common name of the song, so people can actually find the thing in the song list.
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That way, it's a good compromise between accurate information and recognizable song names. It's also a nice idea to keep the common name at the beginning of the name since titles often do not appear completely. I don't see why finding a song would be a problem though. Even if the name for the piece is two foot long, typing in the common name in the search query will isolate the corresponding value. But yeah, if you search songs according to genres, it could become a problem... It's a shame there's no way of inputing a secondary title for a specified song like SM. It could have been of great use. :\ |
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There's some other cases I really can't find what's going on, and we would have to contact some people outside FFR to get more information. We just have to be prudent on how to approach the artist. Quote:
Anyway, as you said, it would be more convenient to have the common name first, then the "reference" name. Like this : - "Moonlight Sonata" Piano Sonata no. 14, Op. 27, No. 2, Mov. 1 - "Badinerie" Suite No. 2 in B minor, BWV 1067 hi19hi19 did it this way on this thread, and we (Crazyjayde and me) thought it would be the best way to write them out (after a quite intense debate I should say ^^). I would like to do the same thing with Japanese title, something like this for example : - Border of Maximum (極限領域) - Zephon (世音) But, that would not be possible. After we've gathered all the data and make the changes, I would like to set an extensive database (so we could have more information about everything concerning the songs and artists - something like the in-game song information thread). So far, I've set up this list, but the problem is that it's on another website. Probably like a wiki or something so people can add their own information. That would be cool. edit : ninja'd EDIT 2 : Thinking about : how are we going to write One Minute Waltz v2 ? Full name is Waltz in D flat major, Op. 64, No. 1. How are we going to tell the difference between the first version from the second if the search will cut out the last few characters ? "Minute" Waltz, Op. 64, No. 1 v2 would be the correct way... What about "Minute Waltz v2", Waltz, Op. 64, No. 1 ?
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Actually, idea: put the classical info in parentheses. Your second example would be Black Key Etude (Op.10, No.5). Then if we have a v2 we can just put it before the parentheses and it wont look weird at all. Quote:
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It's a good argument to add a "secondary title" or something... we could put classical info, original language titles, and even album data there. Less clutter for people looking for songs to play, but anyone who wants to can look it up.
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Having the real title in parenthesis after the common known title (similar to the classical proposition) is something that, imo, could work. We wouldn't have to rely on a separate database see the real name. Of course, a better solution is a secondary title.
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That idea sounds great haha.
On another note, Arrogant Cobbler is mislabeled I think. It's supposed to be Arrogant Cobbler (Nero's Day At Disneyland - Rock Rock Rock Remix), basically it's a remix of Rock Rock Rock by DJ Donna Summer but it's named as Arrogant Cobbler. The title is too long though, a secondary title would definitely suffice. http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Donna-Summ...elease/1486707 |
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I know I've proposed the artist name "DJ Donna Summer remixed by Nero's Day At Disneyland", but I wasn't sure for the title track. Was it really intended to put the title like this, or it was to indicate who made the remix ? It's a digital album, so it can be downloaded. So, I think you're right. Looks like the name is really Arrogant Cobbler (Nero's Day At Disneyland - Rock Rock Rock Remix)
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The artist should be just DJ Donna Summer. Seeing that Nero's Day At Disneyland is already mentioned in the title, the "remixed by Nero's Day At Disneyland" part would be redundant.
Same goes for the other Rock Rock Rock remix on FFR, the artist should be just DJ Donna Summer, instead of "DJ Donna Summer feat. t+pazolite". |
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I don't know about the rules concerning this (or if there are any), but I don't think the song name should have an impact on the artist name. They're both different things. I see the remix as a work of both DJ Donna Summer and Nero's Day At Disneyland, I believe both should be listed. Even if it's redundant with the title, it's more homogenous with other remixes (less exceptions)...
About t+pazolite, it should be "remixed by", not "feat." right?
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Yes, it would be DJ Donna Summer remixed by t+pazolite if that's the case.
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I dunno if anybody remembers the super old FF7 Battle that got disabled due to permission issues with The Black Mages.
Well, today I found out that the FFR version of the song was from the video game's OST, not from the Black Mages themselves. By way of comparison, here's the original: And here's the Black Mages' rendition: This is assuming that SilentWeaponsIII has his sources correct, of course. |
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Correct we used OST version, same with Chrono Trigger.
Black Mages battle rendition was never stepped but should be given that we do have permission. |
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@noname, if you can compile and sort the list of songs in order of largest time difference (I'd rather get the big ones out of the way first as opposed to < 5 sec differences), I'll fix the entire list over time
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I think you're on the spreadsheet atm, I've changed the last column and the songs are ranked by their time difference.
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...aTXlHNGc#gid=0)
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Perfect, thanks. I'll post occasionally to let you know which song I'll have last stopped at.
edit: Everything up to and including Computer Dreams on the spreadsheet is fixed. Only less than 15 second differences should be present now. Last edited by One Winged Angel; 04-18-2013 at 08:33 PM.. |
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I believe this is because Inside The Fire was one of the FFRock charts. But yeah, that should be removed.
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http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...disturbed-yes/ Basically, that's their widget : http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/Disturbed.php
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You actually have to register to peruse through it, I'm still looking though for any song listing or anything so I'll edit this post whenever I'm done looking. Edit: Won't get too far into it, this thread refers to the 300 SM original simfile: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Detach/in...ic=93&st=0&hl= plus a nice small talk about FFR sim database back in the day. You can find the original 300 by Detach M-STYLE stepped by Hiryuu on BMS 7, but this is the only info I can find as far as song name. (source: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Detach/in...wtopic=209&hl=) Last edited by Crazyjayde; 04-19-2013 at 01:09 AM.. |
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