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Re: What's happening in here?
I don't think that will be the case if staff applications are opened. Usually adding new people jump starts things, if even for a little while.
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Re: What's happening in here?
And this is the problem. How do we get actual movement?
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08-21-2015, 08:08 PM | #63 |
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Re: What's happening in here?
I should word this better
By having a top level manager that isn't afraid to hurt someone's feelings by essentially "firing" them if they aren't doing their job and someone who isn't influenced by who they're friends with. But I already know this wont happen cause it's come up a ton of times.
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Re: What's happening in here?
get competent administrators rather than relying on the current structure? make infrastructure changes along the way?
you don't just get rid of an entire team and gauge reaction of interest, you phase people in and out and get a working team - contrary to belief, there were periods where parts of the site's staff were actually working and moving this extends in a different direction from needing new staff - it requires an upper level restructure beyond the areas that are suffering in the first place; as said earlier in the thread, the issue is with the administrative staff not doing their due diligence in communicating things Last edited by TC_Halogen; 08-21-2015 at 08:09 PM.. |
08-21-2015, 08:10 PM | #65 |
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Re: What's happening in here?
There has been so many times staff applications have gone up, that isn't going to make a difference when things aren't being managed in the first place. Just continuing to throw people on with no organization helps nothing.
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08-21-2015, 08:10 PM | #66 |
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Re: What's happening in here?
hey while we're on the subject of the batch has anyone stopped to think what the fuck the point of the batch is and why you do it
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Anyway, this is all stuff I've said for like the last 4 years. I've been trying to not get so involved in any of this anymore because it's caused me a ton of backlash and no progress. Like I mentioned in my long post, I'd gladly start doing a what's happenin' again at the least if all the groups will work with me.
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Re: What's happening in here?
If you need someone to just annoy every group on a regular basis, I'd be happy to volunteer.
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Re: What's happening in here?
Getting movement isn't the problem, keeping the momentum going is - I think that's what you're referring to but wanted to mention that.
The issue in my opinion boils down to accountability. If "Bob" doesn't feel the need to do A, once they don't feel like doing A it doesn't happen and B/C/D/E don't ever get addressed and F/G/H never come up because we are still sitting at A. I don't mean to downplay the Twitch addition Velocity did on the site, but if he (or any other dev with the ability to do back-end SITE changes) had taken my original questions and pushes seriously when I tried to get the Twitch streams things integrated I think it could have been a far more engaging and useful thing to the FFR community. By the time it got integrated (and not at the level I was hoping, I might add) nobody (not to be rude, but it's true) honestly cared anymore. There was a time where Twitch streaming FFR was a regular thing. At this point I'm lucky to see anything but osu streams on the front page. Back to the accountability example, if Bob is held to finishing A by a given deadline, then he either delivers or steps down for someone that can (barring life circumstances etc that legitimately would be priority - in which case maybe Bob should focus on those and not be an admin for the time being). This provides a consistent amount of effort and involvement from staff, and creates an environment where changes take place and continue to, because they must.
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Re: What's happening in here?
FYI gold stinger, I've sent PMs concerning communication within the usergroup and a few decisions that needs to be taken.
That would be really nice (I kinda miss those fpp). Should I contact you by PM or Skype and what would be the best date (sunday?) to send you a message for that ? edit : I should ask, who's interested to do this apart from me ?
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Re: What's happening in here?
It might be a good idea for someone to reread this thread and make a list of things and then narrow the list down to the most important things. I would but i'm working on my essay due in 3 hours so I don't have time to do anything else than spitball atm
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Plus I offered a ton of times too and never got anywhere
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I don't think I saw this mentioned anywhere, but I think ultimatums should be cast upon people who don't get their shit done BEFORE just demoting them. Maybe that could motivate the current staff.
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1. poor communication 2. slow/no batch judging 3. inactive staff members 4. replays cannot be deleted 5. bots 6. hacked/bug exploited scores is all i got [edit]Priorities taken from rapta: 1. Staff communication 2. Restructure/Reorganize current staff structure 3. Address inactivity within staff 4. anything else edit: I like doss' posts cause theyre very informative such as the "todolist" post. it is enlightening to what needs to be done and id like to see more of that.
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08-21-2015, 08:24 PM | #77 |
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Re: What's happening in here?
You're right, thanks for clarifying.
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08-21-2015, 08:25 PM | #78 |
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Re: What's happening in here?
Now, I took a hiatus for 5 or so years so take my opinion with a grain of salt:
But would it be safe to say that if we had bigger community it would inspire shit to get done? Or is the community on it's last legs because nothing was getting done?
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Re: What's happening in here?
Well yeah, I guess I should have really thought out my post a bit better. I wouldn't just remove someone who may have had something come up or something. Comes around to communication again though. In most situations people get warning before being removed from something I think.
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Also, management and activeness should be the first priorities, right Edit: What Zenith said sounds better.
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