TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) - Page 35

**thesunfan** · 02-10-2014, 12:54 PM

ok, headed out, will be back with ~5 hours left, gonna marathon the thread, finalize reads and then post 'em. Wanna see some discussion going on when I get back guys... we need it.

**emerald000** · 02-10-2014, 01:05 PM

I'm here. Let me some time to read through the thread again and post my thoughts. Sorry for being late, I had to work double shifts yesterday.

**Charu** · 02-10-2014, 01:06 PM

Folks, I gots an annoucement. So work is telling me I'm going to be staying a bit longer than usual. But because of that, I won't be back when the day ends. Unless of course you guys lynch early, dohoho.

No pressure, just letting you guys aware that I won't be available at the end of the day.

**j-rodd123** · 02-10-2014, 01:23 PM

im lock clear obv

lock clearing crazyjayde thanks to psychos overdramatic crybaby flip out that still makes me laugh. ~0% chance crazyjayde is not town, this is a read I am confident in.

yoshl next up there, mason, been mindmelding with day 1. I was incapacitated yesterday but noticed good work here again, as well as game solveyness. pretty comfortable here, human tone

cedo remains up here too, I still don't see him posting this much as a wolf. been not afraid to pressure and speak his mind, good stream of consciousness so human pile.

silvuh has trended upwards from day 1, loved the soramimi points, logical constructed posts and had a slight mindmeld re post 308

MeaCulpa hasn't stood out as wolfy at all. not saying definite human, but seems like hes playing a solid new players game, voicing his thoughts decently and providing original ideas (unlike james may lolol), human lean

Velocity is a ? because im the most red to him but hes not even pushing me. hes voting thesunfan instead and doesn't have any other noticeable suspicions. catching up I was surprised no one mentioned this point except for cedolad who mentioned the strength of the reads. also seems to get frozen pretty quickly so wouldn't be surprised if was a wolf. ill say im not comfortable lynching him today tho, read is just not there

the rest of the 4 are in my lynch candidate pool and ill get there when I finish my last class of the day

for now danceguy

**Silvuh** · 02-10-2014, 01:30 PM

soramimi - No one's supporting me, so it's just going to look like tunneling now, but I don't care. Trying to identify the SK is more than just "figuring out what roles exist" as you say. And the reason to not do something is never "because it makes me look anti-town" but because something is anti-town. Big difference in wording. As far as not having much to go from, in thread-only games, everyone has all the posts to read and all the humans have the same amount of information. So going after UTR players shouldn't have been your only option. When a player tries to drive a point, that's not enough to look more human. And James was defending himself in that post, not offering original insight. Thank you, though, for not playing the newb card and posting intent to step your game up.
dAnce - From the games I've played with you and you were human, you didn't sound like this at all. You're not Xiz and wouldn't change your game up when you're town just for the hell of it. Or maybe you would, and I don't know. I haven't pressured you yet because your play is at least constructive. But it's been making me upset, I don't like it, so good job getting a reaction out of me.

Velocity and Mea are pretty null for me right now. The oddest thing I've seen from Velo is 612 when he followed Mea's vote on sunfan instead of voting for the strongest read on his list. I'm also null on emerald because we don't have anything else from him yet, but it's good we'll be seeing that now.

thesunfan is kind of a mystery box to me, but I'm more confident about his possible green-ness with the reaction to the James kill. Cedo I only see as a little odd for not following through with his promise to post more analysis as jayde just pointed out, but he wasn't triggering any sirens earlier.

j-rodd, YoshL, and jayde are human. They've all been helpful without looking weird about it.

And ... I know this is going to be, like, an easily exploitable excuse because I was away before the lynch last time, but I have to be on campus from 2 to 6:30 server time for class on Mondays. I always leave half an hour before class starts, so I have to be off now-ish. The later class usually ends a little early. I'll try to get online in a computer lab during the break between the two classes. Sorry for being away again.

**Crazyjayde** · 02-10-2014, 01:36 PM

The early interactions between dance and james have been rubbing me up the wrong way lately. They're so visible I can't be oblivious to them. Of course I don't want to have tunnel syndrome like last game but I'd like to know what people thinks of D1 dance if possible.

**Crazyjayde** · 02-10-2014, 01:40 PM

Wtf, I come back in last page and now there's focus on dance. On the same brain wavelength I see.

dAnceguy117 · 02-10-2014, 01:52 PM

should i just wait over here while you all talk about me

**Crazyjayde** · 02-10-2014, 02:03 PM

Had to find a gif with just the right amount of suspicion.

**YoshL** · 02-10-2014, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

Wtf, I come back in last page and now there's focus on dance. On the same brain wavelength I see.

was going to bring in that dance's instigation technique and prods felt really forced. but then class and girl problems >_> but now i'm back.

like i said earlier, now everyone's saying it, pretty sure kayla/jade is 100% villa b/c of the drop out.

i also have very slight worries about j-rodd, his tone has been very "buddy-buddy" to the (majority) of people who've actually seen a couple of TWG games, but it's nothing major I don't think.

silv is nicely popping back in, but still is a bit odd how his reads offer very little actual meat to them. if you read like, his second most recent post, his argument turns out to be about "i don't like emerald's posts, so i'm suspicious of him." He does mention things about looking for an SK, but admittedly, I personally started alluding like crazy to SK for a little bit as a theory of what could have been the result of the night lynch.

that being said, either soramimi or dance will have my vote tonight.
[quote=soramimi]James was another person who stood out by not saying much, and with how psychoangel was going after him, I started thinking she might be on to something[/soramimi]
if sora thought that kayla was "on to something", then why didn't you say anything at the time? I personally don't believe this can be true at all.

Just this whole scenario: Kayla digs at James, no-one says much about it.
James dies nightkill, flips wolf
way late in day 2, soramimi mentions "oh i thought kayla was right", but didn't actually do anything about it?

i mean, she says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sora

I wanted to throw a bit more pressure their way

i don't think she has put any pressure on anyone really.

finally, yeah, it's nice how she keeps saying "i don't want to play the newb card", but every single time you mention that it's like shouting "please go easy on me pleaaaaase", and she's pulled it quite a lot I think. It's easy to think that every time she says that, it's like a testament to how hard she's trying or something. Except, you just need to do posts and shit or whatever i'm bad at explaining lol

so

i'm down with a sora or dance lynch i think. pete's just playing like he need to be in control of everything, etc. etc.

**YoshL** · 02-10-2014, 02:08 PM

[/soramimi] lmfao i'm bad

dAnceguy117 · 02-10-2014, 02:10 PM

yes I want to control the lynch, explain why you think that makes me look wolfy please

**YoshL** · 02-10-2014, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

yes I want to control the lynch, explain why you think that makes me look wolfy please

The level of sass coming from you is approaching Fictional levels. Make a wrong turn at the Junction and you'll be headed straight for the noose!

**YoshL** · 02-10-2014, 02:16 PM

and he's gone

dAnceguy117 · 02-10-2014, 02:17 PM

what did you want me to respond to that? my plan was not to so that the actual content posts on this page wouldn't be buried. but oops.

anyway, go on, it's not really my turn to talk I don't think

**Crazyjayde** · 02-10-2014, 02:19 PM

Just a commentary for now, you normally play the cheerleading card a lot when you force yourself to blend in somewhere. I don't see that this time, but I'm not surprised since I assume you've wised up from the last games you've played. Purely meta.
The actual issue is, I'm more concerned that you are focused on the lynching rather than reaching out to people asking for information, or even consolidating your reads with others. It's an aggressive mindset, yes, but lacks actual reasoning/justification from a villa perspective.

Imo, I'd want to see dance or meaculpa on the line today, the current thesunfan and emerald pushes are fine too, emerald being what I think would be visibly the closest to a SK.

dAnceguy117 · 02-10-2014, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

The actual issue is, I'm more concerned that you are focused on the lynching rather than reaching out to people asking for information

I'd rather try to pull information from flips and prior days than ask people too many questions, especially because we're past day 1 and I'm not gonna try to use tonereads at this point

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

or even consolidating your reads with others.

I'm not fully sure what this means to be honest. if people agree with my wolfreads then they'll vote with me, if not then presumably something else will happen.

**Charu** · 02-10-2014, 02:30 PM

5 HOURS & 30 MINUTES REMAINING
6 VOTES TO LYNCH

emerald000 - XXX

thesunfan - XXX

MeaCulpa - X

dAnceguy117 - X

soramimi - X

Bynary Fission - XXXXXXX

Silvuh - XXX

James May - X

j-rodd123 - X

dAnceguy117 - X

**Crazyjayde** · 02-10-2014, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

I'm not fully sure what this means to be honest. if people agree with my wolfreads then they'll vote with me, if not then presumably something else will happen.

This is an english stroke, my goal there was to say something about your D2 pushes (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4075307&postcount=618) and how they weren't grounded that much in the prior flip since you were so keen of learning about it in D1.

**thesunfan** · 02-10-2014, 02:46 PM

back from lit, gonna do something I've been putting off for too long (dAnceguy knows), read the thread and post my reads. Surprised at the turnaround on dAnceguy, and I do have a theory for his plan so far (I believe it was Yoshl that mentioned something similar?) but I'll leave that as it is for now.
Also, I totally called Yoshl turning on sora after sora used being a new-player as an excuse.

02-10-2014, 01:05 PM	#682
emerald000 the Mathemagician~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Quebec City Age: 34 Posts: 1,320	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) I'm here. Let me some time to read through the thread again and post my thoughts. Sorry for being late, I had to work double shifts yesterday.

02-10-2014, 01:30 PM	#685
Silvuh quit Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: anywhere but here Posts: 938	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) soramimi - No one's supporting me, so it's just going to look like tunneling now, but I don't care. Trying to identify the SK is more than just "figuring out what roles exist" as you say. And the reason to not do something is never "because it makes me look anti-town" but because something is anti-town. Big difference in wording. As far as not having much to go from, in thread-only games, everyone has all the posts to read and all the humans have the same amount of information. So going after UTR players shouldn't have been your only option. When a player tries to drive a point, that's not enough to look more human. And James was defending himself in that post, not offering original insight. Thank you, though, for not playing the newb card and posting intent to step your game up. dAnce - From the games I've played with you and you were human, you didn't sound like this at all. You're not Xiz and wouldn't change your game up when you're town just for the hell of it. Or maybe you would, and I don't know. I haven't pressured you yet because your play is at least constructive. But it's been making me upset, I don't like it, so good job getting a reaction out of me. Velocity and Mea are pretty null for me right now. The oddest thing I've seen from Velo is 612 when he followed Mea's vote on sunfan instead of voting for the strongest read on his list. I'm also null on emerald because we don't have anything else from him yet, but it's good we'll be seeing that now. thesunfan is kind of a mystery box to me, but I'm more confident about his possible green-ness with the reaction to the James kill. Cedo I only see as a little odd for not following through with his promise to post more analysis as jayde just pointed out, but he wasn't triggering any sirens earlier. j-rodd, YoshL, and jayde are human. They've all been helpful without looking weird about it. And ... I know this is going to be, like, an easily exploitable excuse because I was away before the lynch last time, but I have to be on campus from 2 to 6:30 server time for class on Mondays. I always leave half an hour before class starts, so I have to be off now-ish. The later class usually ends a little early. I'll try to get online in a computer lab during the break between the two classes. Sorry for being away again. __________________

02-10-2014, 01:36 PM	#686
Crazyjayde FFR Veteran Wiki Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Quebec Posts: 1,169	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) The early interactions between dance and james have been rubbing me up the wrong way lately. They're so visible I can't be oblivious to them. Of course I don't want to have tunnel syndrome like last game but I'd like to know what people thinks of D1 dance if possible.

02-10-2014, 01:40 PM	#687
Crazyjayde FFR Veteran Wiki Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Quebec Posts: 1,169	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) Wtf, I come back in last page and now there's focus on dance. On the same brain wavelength I see.

02-10-2014, 01:52 PM	#688
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,095	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) should i just wait over here while you all talk about me

02-10-2014, 02:03 PM	#689
Crazyjayde FFR Veteran Wiki Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Quebec Posts: 1,169	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) Had to find a gif with just the right amount of suspicion.

02-10-2014, 02:10 PM	#692
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,095	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) yes I want to control the lynch, explain why you think that makes me look wolfy please

02-10-2014, 02:17 PM	#695
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,095	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) what did you want me to respond to that? my plan was not to so that the actual content posts on this page wouldn't be buried. but oops. anyway, go on, it's not really my turn to talk I don't think

02-10-2014, 02:19 PM	#696
Crazyjayde FFR Veteran Wiki Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Quebec Posts: 1,169	Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup) Just a commentary for now, you normally play the cheerleading card a lot when you force yourself to blend in somewhere. I don't see that this time, but I'm not surprised since I assume you've wised up from the last games you've played. Purely meta. The actual issue is, I'm more concerned that you are focused on the lynching rather than reaching out to people asking for information, or even consolidating your reads with others. It's an aggressive mindset, yes, but lacks actual reasoning/justification from a villa perspective. Imo, I'd want to see dance or meaculpa on the line today, the current thesunfan and emerald pushes are fine too, emerald being what I think would be visibly the closest to a SK.

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