TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

so has something else occurred to you aside from my reads list? or is this another half-assed attempt to push a wagon on me?

I dont want to lynch you this phase i voted Zenith. Your posts, good or bad, give us far more information and player interaction than Zeniths

[_Zenith_]

yo man's usage of "toxic" reminds me of the typical LoL player

I know that is far out of my system since my gameplay two games ago.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

You, Round, mentioned that he thinks DBP is a waste of a lynch; then why include him in a list of his suspicions?.

fyi I think this whole post was a solid response. On the quoted: I feel like it goes along with what I mentioned earlier that his post had two purposes: to convince people to vote for his scum candidates and see his reasoning and to dissuade people from voting DaBackpack. I will say that the point about DaBackpack seemed out of context in terms of thread discussion, but ymia's windows of contribution aren't as open as some other players. Personally, it's not ringing any bells for me for him to include this, and at this point I'm probably not going to convince you otherwise.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

And you arent my top wolf, i think AA is more wolfy imo than you. I do however think your posting is more toxic to the game overall.

10/10 contradiction

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I was referring to rzr, yes, and I know rzr won't let a post that mentions him go by unbeknownst to him. If I got no reaction, it would've gone two different ways: 1) I pressure him more, and 2) I take my attention elsewhere while noting rzr not responding.

ok, but it seems like no matter what his reaction is you would think him more scummy for it

You have a tendency to tunnel strongly/lock in (like on ymia right now) which is dangerous if you have a misread/confirmation bias. I'm not saying you do but it doesn't hurt to reevaluate and you should definitely do so before d0. being misdirected if you're town is almost as bad as being scum

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

yo man's usage of "toxic" reminds me of the typical LoL player

I know that is far out of my system since my gameplay two games ago.

how about you wait until he posts an argument before digging into him

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

10/10 contradiction

No?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

I dont want to lynch you this phase i voted Zenith. Your posts, good or bad, give us far more information and player interaction than Zeniths

??? If I'm your top wolf you should be pushing to lynch me because my posts will largely not help town. you could analyze interactions but that doesn't seem like a good enough justification to lynch zenith over me

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

ok, but it seems like no matter what his reaction is you would think him more scummy for it

You have a tendency to tunnel strongly/lock in (like on ymia right now) which is dangerous if you have a misread/confirmation bias. I'm not saying you do but it doesn't hurt to reevaluate and you should definitely do so before d0. being misdirected if you're town is almost as bad as being scum

No, I would've left him at a null this phase if he never responded to my pressure because I wouldn't have my own direction to influence my read against him.

Bottom is true though; it is a bad tendency.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by roundbox

how about you wait until he posts an argument before digging into him

I'm replying to his posts here, as the fun has just begun with him and I (yes, before I seriously dig into him with my megapost he will have all of the time left in the phase to post an argument).

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

I dont want to lynch you this phase i voted Zenith. Your posts, good or bad, give us far more information and player interaction than Zeniths

ymia reread your own post and acknowledge the contradiction.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

yo man's usage of "toxic" reminds me of the typical LoL player

I know that is far out of my system since my gameplay two games ago.

LoL is a bad game and the community is worse

AA yes your posts would largely not help town. But at least your posts do something. Id rather a more active later phase than a more active one, and if youre both wolves im going to hunt the one that doesnt promote discussion first.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I'm replying to his posts here, as the fun has just begun with him and I (yes, before I seriously dig into him with my megapost he will have all of the time left in the phase to post an argument).

Im going to assume you have this megapost already complete, so just post it, withholding information is not good

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

Im going to assume you have this megapost already complete, so just post it, withholding information is not good

Wrong assumption, it is not the last day of the phase yet.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Wrong assumption, it is not the last day of the phase yet.

To clarify, I specifically wait until the last day so I have a majority of the phase information demonstrated in said megapost.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Rounds early posts about masons rang out as a strange post to make, kinda similar to the string of "posting information that doesn't further the game, but all the while makes you look towny while not really doing anything town beneficial." posts we've seen in other TWG games. Sure there are people, myself included, who would benefit from seeing the information displayed outright for us instead of taking the time to view the wiki and work the potential setup options we're working with based off of role distribution, but idk I'm just not seeing it being that necessary of a point to instantly bring up.
And then he concluded with:



Which is just odd considering that's essentially what he's just done.

Reading through rzr's post, I realized that I didn't respond and look at this at all. The original point you bring up has already been discussed to death. The reason why I brought up setup details early in the phase was to quell any theorycrafting or setupcrafting since it would be a waste of time in addition to being potentially misleading. I tried to do this last C9++ game which also had an IC right off the bat, and I ended up going too deep into the rabbit hole. Also, analyzing the setup is just part of my play style. Why wouldn't I make it my first priority?

I was just the first person to mention it, and wanted to be the only one that really mentioned it today before people got off track. All I did was acknowledge that piece of data. It's not making theories, it's acknowledging the data there and the two possibilities that come with it.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Wrong assumption, it is not the last day of the phase yet.

Should contribution only happen on the last day? Sounds like you want less time for people to argue your post so you can the lynch on me easier. Again, there is no benefit in withholding things

[yo man im awesome]

I read that wrong i think you meant that its not done yet okay, but nonetheless don't wait to post something you're thinking there literally isnt a good reason for you to do that.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

Should contribution only happen on the last day? Sounds like you want less time for people to argue your post so you can the lynch on me easier. Again, there is no benefit in withholding things

There is absolutely no benefit to withholding information (see: storn in Storm Game).

If it makes you feel better I'll have it ready by morning so most of the last day can be used if needed to dissect it.

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I was thinking of the latter too, considering he hasn't played with many of the people in the current player pool. ymia is still a candidate for me, but I'm starting to teeter in favor of other lynch candidates today.
Red Blaster, who are you looking at for a lynch today? It's nice that you touch upon one of the top lynch candidates, but I think you really need to do some scum hunting.



aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you're doing it again

I don't really know. Zenith is shooting his way up there simply with his attitude about not moving his vote. There's no way he could be absolutely certain that ymia is a hit given it's a 1/13 shot and he's never played with yo man before so he's not basing this off of anything except for content in this game thus far..which only he seems to be finding major issue(s) with. This all seems like very antitown behavior.

I'd normally say James would be a good lynch here, but knowing that we have Charu waiting behind the scenes I'm not really too keen on getting rid of a slot that may end up being taken over by someone who will actually play.

I could see myself getting behind the rzr lynch. I feel like I've brought up quite a few points regarding his weird posts which he's made no response to yet despite posting in the thread multiple times.

Everyone else is really not on my radar as far as being a lynch today.