10-7-2016, 02:30 PM | #601 |
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Two basic observations.
Up until this point, the game has largely revolved around four mostly isolated arguments: Gradiant-Freezin, Haku-Xel, DBP-myself, and inD-Shado. There hasn't been much cross-pollination between them, although there have been a couple little things scattered here and there. While I can't speak for FFR, elsewhere I've noticed that there usually only end up being one or two largescale D1 fights. I don't know if that's in any way significant here. Unvote, by the way. *** This is the other point, and is worth reiterating (although it's more something to be kept in mind, because acting on it D1 doesn't make a lot of sense). |
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10-7-2016, 02:40 PM | #603 |
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It's not common, but there have been games with the same amount of bicker. Just means this is a good D1 for once, hahaha.
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10-7-2016, 02:41 PM | #604 | |
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Let's say you have an 8 player game of six town and two wolves. We'll call the players ABCDEFGH. If A accuses B, saying "B looks like a wolf, C and D feel town" and nothing else, and all the other players respond in kind, there's no case being built, no rallying point for consensus or discussion, and no way to separate town posts from wolven ones. Anyone can say "So-and-so feels town to me" or "Player is a wolf." Wolves can say that too, in fact. And while you argue from the one's own perspective rather than that of the group, there are two problems here. Gut reads are not fundamentally reliable. Until you can point out someone who can gut reads wolves all the time (or even a majority of the time, or hell, even a third of the time), you should be backing up your case with observational and mechanical evidence as best as possible, not just for the thread, but to challenge your own assumptions. There's a really bad trend that just about everyone is guilty of (myself included) where there's a need to couch everything in extremely certain language so as not to look weak or undecided or deceptive. The problem is, if you're not constantly second guessing yourself, you're not being honest with yourself. That's why gut may be an okay place to start from, but once you start actually reading, you should be looking for reasons that support it. After all, TWG is A TEAM GAME. If your observations, however weird or off, prod other players down a productive path, then that has value. As for mechanics, the stuff I've done so far is very superficial (and yet some people needed it apparently). But as the game progresses, it becomes more valuable as stuff like vote analysis can come into play. It's even more useful in particularly complicated games (although this one isn't). But you're arguing for an information vacuum of gut reads and nothing else, which is a wolf's dream scenario. |
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i agree that he wasnt trying to look like he was jumpin on a wagon. it also appears to me that he doesnt know haku at all, which can be its own obstacle
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Gettin' me to a point where I wanna join in the pile. BUT WHO TO PUSH I'm not likin' freezin' nearly as much. Loving gradiant indheart lookin' good wolfe lookin' a little less good HAKU MADE A GOOD POST GUYS. LET'S TOTES TOWN - READ - yeah ok one good post let's follow that development I wanna see more from packback so I can solidify my comfort on my read Where did juckster go? :/ Quote:
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I remember saying something similar earlier about Gradiant...
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HI FREEZIN do you like my new av? nobody would have seen it on ffya, heh
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10-7-2016, 05:19 PM | #614 |
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Also, I forgot to mention it, but inDheart vs ShadoWolfe looks like TvT to me.
There was a misunderstanding and it's been mostly clarified from what I've read. Well, at least that's my conclusion from the "FreezinIce vs ShadoWolfe" issue. |
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I'm the only one in this game who has an infraction for liking something. I've been the most savage by fucking default for a while. Also as I was scrolling down I scrolled past my post and was like "oh who the fuck posted a long ass post now." It was me. I had a feeling of dread over scrolling past my own post.
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No see, I'm using the fact that he's saying one thing but is like "oh it's not that bad, guess he's town" as a way of saying his statement is fucking garbage. If his meta-read of you is to see how much you self destruct to lean you one way or the other, but then he says "oh he's not imploding nearly as bad as last time" it's a serious what the actual fuck, because fact is, you still had the worst entrance and early part of D0.
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Like seriously, I am fucking astounded I'm the only one nit picking that. That's some stupid shit right there.
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"Logic" is not fundamentally reliable either unless people's roles have been confirmed. *Nothing* is reliable in this game because all of our "facts" are usually assumption based at best. or we have extremely incomplete information with only a few confirmed roles (often of dead players).
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