10-13-2023, 04:16 PM | #41 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
Just a subtle reminder that there are 2 days left, give or take, to get submissions in while you can for StepCon 2023. We've gotten quite a few submissions already, but a fair majority haven't submitted yet.
Deadline (the absolute last & final cutoff for submissions) is Tomorrow (Saturday), 11:59pm SERVER TIME. If you're in Eastern Standard Time (EST), that's 12:59am on Sunday. |
10-15-2023, 12:35 AM | #42 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
We're currently processing submitted files/songs and getting them ready for public voting. Thanks to all 35 people whom submitted! Should hopefully be ready sometime tonight before tomorrow morning if all goes well.
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10-15-2023, 01:58 AM | #43 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
The First Public Voting Period has Begun! During this time, all participants (including and especially people not participating in the event), can vote for songs submitted for Round 1 of StepCon 2023. No further submissions for the event will be accepted at this time. You can re-visit the Google Form link in the future to change your votes (until the end of the Public Voting period), and you can vote for multiple options across all Classes (Pick any & all that you like!). You may fill out the form at https://forms.gle/2zfmt8CxoUCReoo17 to submit your votes. Please be advised, participants CANNOT vote for their own Class. Votes for that class will not count for said participants. Everyone will have until the end of Saturday, October 21st, 11:59PM SERVER TIME to complete voting and submit their forms at the above google link. Furthermore, discussion is allowed in-thread during voting. But please do not deliberately attempt to sway votes/vote brigade particular submissions, and treat your fellow Stepauthors with respect. People of all skill levels participate within this event, and there is going to be good/bad matchups for people's skills and preferred genres. Keep it civil and respectful. There's also the #events channel in FFR's Official Discord for discussing the event as well! Also, on a sidenote, please let me know if there's any issue with filling out the google form for voting. I copied some of it from last year, and appears to work on my end, but ya never know. Songs are tested & working. Last edited by gold stinger; 10-15-2023 at 02:02 AM.. |
10-15-2023, 03:56 AM | #44 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
Want to preface this by saying that this is my opinion, alot of these comments will have personal bias and aren't necessarily reflective of the quality of the chart itself, but moreso the attributes I value when looking at a chart.
Fat Lip 1: Color Theory felt a bit arbitrary at times and I think the dump sections were too dense for the song, I definitely think dump is a good approach to this song, but it could've been a bit more nuanced. Fat Lip 2: I think this chart does a few things right, but suffers from alot of PR(pitch relevance) problems and there are alot of unnecessary anchors. There were empty sections where I would expect there to be notes as well. Fat Lip 3: The patterns in this are quite fun to play, but I think a large portion of the chart has very little relevancy to the music. I also think that 16ths do not work too well when dumping vocals, to me the entire thing felt very ghost-y. Fat Lip 4: Definitely an approach closer to how I would've done it. I think some of the white notes to the vocals were slightly offputting, we see this type of stuff all the time in accepted charts nowadays so it might just be me, but I find these white ''grace'' notes so hard to read sometimes. I really liked the triple jump motifs to the guitar, they capture the rhythm quite well. I think the short jacks are also quite fun and fit the song. Fat Lip 5: Really solid entry, the whole chart felt right. Pretty much my only gripe with this one were those 2 spots where you had [23]/[14] anchors leading into a 16th pattern. Those felt a little too dense in my opinion. Other than that though, this one is almost entirely like how I would've approached it. Fat Lip 6: I knew someone would do this haha, the color theory to the particular vocals does seem like a good idea, but I feel like the spots where the vocals coincided with the rest of the music the chart became a bit too hard to read. There were also a few technical errors that were noticeable from playing the file. Overall thoughts on the charts and song: I think this is a really difficult song to chart. The rhythms aren't super dynamic and most of the interest comes from the lyrics and the vocals. I think dumping is a viable strategy for a song like this, but I'm personally quite particular when it comes to dumping, I'm not a huge fan of vocal dumps and making an accurate vocal dump is insanely difficult. Clumsy Communication 1: The chart captured the essence of the song quite nicely, but I was missing a bit of flavor. It could've been nice to have some grace notes or some variety to spice the chart up. PR seemed a bit shoddy in places. The jacks felt a bit jarring, because the rest of the chart is so simple. Clumsy Communication 2: Dumping doesn't feel right to me for this song. I feel there are enough interesting sounds/rhythms in this song for a regular (does probably need a cut) chart and alot of those aren't being captured because you have a large stream of notes going to the synth. I can tell a good charter made this, because some of the patterns are really fun and capture the music quite well, but the approach doesn't quite work for me personally. Clumsy Communication 3: I really liked this entry, it was structured clearly and PR felt pretty accurate. I kinda wish you'd deviate a little from the ''jump-to-chord'' structure you have, because I felt certain dynamics in the song could've been captured a bit better (Mainly towards the middle of the song where the lead takes the forefront). Clumsy Communication 4: The intro did not feel accurate at all to me, I played it several times on lower rates and it's pretty clear these notes are not synced correctly. This is the first song that stepped the grace notes, I really liked that about this chart, I think it's a bit too dense in parts and some parts felt a bit too ghost-y though. The vibrato of the synth is also really hard to capture without long notes, those little trill patterns felt a bit dumpy at times because it wasn't immediately clear to me what you were following. Clumsy Communication 5: I like how you captured the swingy nature of the song with your chart, but the layering felt really inaccurate. I think this has to do with missing quite a few notes and missing jumps to the chords. Similarly to the previous entry stepping the vibrato of the synth didn't feel super accurate to me. Clumsy Communication 6: Not sure how accurate some of the notes are, would have to open the chart up in an editor, it felt accurate for the most part. I'm not sure if you were missing jumps to the chords, but the layering definitely wasn't super straightforward, I also think PR could've been a bit better here. The ending cut was pretty bad. I do think out of all entries this one had the most interesting rhythms and patterns. Clumsy Communication 7: The density in this chart felt a bit weird, there were parts where you put hands to the chords and others where you only put jumps, these felt a bit arbitrary and didn't seem related to the intensity of the sounds. Some parts were quite empty and others were quite full even though the song keeps the same energy throughout. PR could've been better, especially the ending felt really off because you used the same 1-2-3-4-4 pattern even though the pitch changed. Clumsy Communication 8: This chart started off really strong, the graces felt super fun and the layering made sense, but again I'm really not a fan of how the vibrato is stepped. I also think the chart dragged a bit due to length, the yellow note section was kinda cool near the end, would have to see in the editor how accurate it is though. Overall thoughts on the charts and song: I think this song is quite repetitive in alot of ways, it isn't really dynamic enough to warrant it being stepped from beginning to end and as such requires a cut in my opinion. Alot of the charts were either too basic and as a result a bit boring or they tried to capture elements in the song such as the vibrato that didn't really work or added minijacks that didn't make much sense. Some of the cuts were also pretty bad and it all stems from the song being uninteresting and hard to step. AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT 1: First and foremost, this is a good chart. However, I do think it suffers from repetitiveness(largely due to the nature of the song itself), I like the color theory spicing things up a bit. AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT 2: This chart is very dynamic, which is insanely impressive considering the reptitiveness of the song. I really like the 24th patterns to the vocals it adds alot of variety to this. My biggest gripe was that the 3-jump gluts felt a little too aggressive, the entire chart is based on how well you can execute those gluts and it doesn't even really go to a sound that stands out that much to me. AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT 3: This chart has a distinct lack of jacks, I think it's a shame considering how often the song has sounds that repeat. The layering also didn't feel super intuitive to me while playing. AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT 4: Not sure how to feel about this one, the structure is quite clear but the difficulty ramps up considerably to a point where the layering almost becomes comically dense. Meanwhile the little drum fills aren't really being stepped. Certain elements of this chart felt great and others were complete headscratchers to me, towards the end where you use 3 and 4-note jacks it was hard for me follow how exactly the chart related to the music. AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT 5: I really like the majority of this entry, the jumpstream felt nice and the way you layered it went well with the music, there was a point tho near the end where the intensity of the music dropped, but the chart kept the same JS structure. I would've personally thinned the layering down a bit there. AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT 6: Really solid entry, this felt alot shorter and alot more dynamic than some of the others. The differently colored notes were a nice touch and the layering was understandable and tasteful, I didn't notice the cut either. AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT 7: This chart really shows how a good use of jumps can make or break a chart, I think the way this chart was structured was head and shoulders above the rest. It wasn't quite as dynamic as some of the others in terms of pattern variety, but because of the changes in jump use it captured my attention the whole time. Using colored notes for the drum fills was also a nice touch. I would've liked to see a few minijacks though. Overall thoughts on the charts and song: The rhythms are quite interesting in this, but I think the biggest challenge when stepping this is how to overcome the repetitiveness of the song itself. A few charts have done this quite effectively with well placed cuts and the use of color theory or simply clever patterning while others couldn't really keep my attention. Progressive Temporal Corruption I couldn't really play any of these submissions so I'm probably not voting on this, but the song itself is quite cool. It's a shame there wasn't an easier chart submitted because I do think this song lends itself well for an fmo/fgo file. Last edited by M0nkeyz; 10-15-2023 at 08:17 AM.. |
10-15-2023, 08:47 AM | #45 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
it says "error loading legacy engine" when i try loading the xml thingy
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10-15-2023, 02:01 PM | #46 | |
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Re: StepCon 2023
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Try putting it in again following the steps in my post above. It could be that FFR was down at the time. Try other alt engines and see if you can connect to those. Full list at https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/~velocity/~alt/ I do not think the internet cache would be at-fault here but could try clearing it if it still doesn't work. Last edited by gold stinger; 10-15-2023 at 02:01 PM.. |
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10-15-2023, 03:09 PM | #47 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
ye i see a couple lines of code in the link
tried loading it again but still doesnt work ffrmania, ffr widgets, and team blaze engine load fine, but dragons fury and velocity stepped things give the same legacy error thingy tried clearing cache but dont think it worked might just wait for vid compilation of the charts idk,,, |
10-15-2023, 03:23 PM | #48 | |
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The issue is either with some setting specifically within your game that's preventing it and would normally not be changeable, or something specifically internet-wise which we can't fix on our end. Only other suggestion I have is reinstalling the newest version of the game from scratch and see if that helps. I'll see if I can't get the video content ready sometime today. Hopecaster did it last year. Last edited by gold stinger; 10-15-2023 at 03:24 PM.. |
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10-15-2023, 06:30 PM | #49 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
Class A
1 Too hard for me to play/judge fairly 2 Too hard for me to play/judge fairly 3 Undeniably a pretty chart, lots of cool bursts and colors. But if you're using all these fancy bursts to represent the swishy sounds in the background, it makes it harder to follow the more important sounds. 4 I like the quirky patterns in the first have that effectively capture the glitchy nature of the song. I found that the increasing density in the second half takes away from this feel . 5 Really solid, not much to pick apart here but I like it. 6 The way some of the sounds were represented was interesting and creative, but is this supposed to be a smooth/chill kind of chart or a more aggressive one? Some of the bursts and minijacks felt jarring when surrounded by streamy patterns. 7 This one did the best job of capturing the rhythms and intensity curve of the music by focusing on the more prominent sounds. As a bonus, it's playable for more of us. Class C 1 I'm not sure if gluts/chordjacks are the most fitting pattern to use in the outer sections, but the middle part with the bursts is really fun. 2 A well-constructed vocal dump, not so much in line with the FFR meta but it plays nicely. 3 Very aggressive tech dump. I'm not a fan of this charting style but hey, there's definitely an audience for it. 4 Very good and polished chart, not much to say here other than good job. 5 Very much an abstract/dump approach but I have to say a lot of the patterns are pretty cool. 6 The standout in this class IMO, really good attention to detail with how sounds are represented and a lot of interesting patterns. 7 A jack file is not what I'd expect from this song, but what can I say, I had fun playing it. Class D 1 I think I know who made this so yeah, probably not what FFR is looking for but it works just fine as a dump file. The colored jacks were a nice touch. 2 A blast from the past... all that jumpchain stuff is actually pretty fun despite not fitting the current FFR meta, though it does suffer from some technical errors (lack of PR, missing notes and so on) 3 That's... that's some patterning alright. Not sure what to say about this one but you get points for uniqueness! 4 This is pretty much how I'd expect most people to chart the song. That could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it... maybe it's better to do something that stands out more? Either way, very solid entry. 5 Very polished and great sense of structure, jacks are used to build up tension in the more climactic parts. 6 Pretty colors... perfectly fine easier approach, nothing wrong with how the chart plays but I do feel the colors can get a little distracting/overbearing in some places. Class E 1 A straightforward approach like this is fine, although there's not much to make it stand out. But I did notice some inconsistencies in the layering, mainly with whether or not jumps are used to represent the stronger drum beats. 2 Tasteful dump approach, plays quite nicely. Some of the rolls get a little monotonous and maybe could use more variation but otherwise I like it. 3 Very polished, effectively represents the song's rhythmic quirks. 4 Most of the chart plays well, but I found the streamy patterning in the middle section to detract from the swingy nature of the song. Some layering issues as well. 5 I was confused by some of the patterning choices - there are some good ideas, but many of the rhythmic fills and prominent beats are missing or represented in a way that isn't clear. 6 Most of this plays nicely and captures the feel of the song very well, but the ending confused me a bit - what do the green notes go to? why the abrupt cut? 7 I would suggest re-thinking the overall structure and difficulty curve of the chart. Some parts felt underlayered and did not emphasize the stronger beats, in a way that didn't feel consistent with the intensity of the music. 8 Interesting pattern choices, I can tell a lot of thought went into this, but I did find that some of the one-handed patterning and minijacks into hands felt unnecessarily spiky. |
10-15-2023, 06:40 PM | #50 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
tl;dr: I said a whole lot, arguably too much lol
Progressive Temporal Corruption: AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT: GETCHA!: Fat Lip: Clumsy Communication:
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10-15-2023, 08:11 PM | #51 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
YouTube Video Previews are out:
Timestamps for each submission are in the video description. Class A - Progressive Temporal Corruption Class B - AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT Class C - GETCHA! (Cover) Class D - Fat Lip Class E - Clumsy Communication Last edited by gold stinger; 10-15-2023 at 08:16 PM.. |
10-19-2023, 07:18 PM | #52 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
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GETCHA! Fat Lip Clumsy Communication Still deciding on whether I want to weigh in on any of my fellow class A submissions (if so will post those after the voting period). Last edited by Tru; 10-20-2023 at 11:03 PM.. |
10-21-2023, 11:34 AM | #53 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
I know there was a Front Page Post notice about this, but posting in here too for posterity; Today is the last day available for voting!
If you haven't voted yet, please consider doing so! Every single vote matters and can potentially decide who gets their song in-game, and who advances to Final StepOff! Last edited by gold stinger; 10-21-2023 at 11:35 AM.. |
10-21-2023, 11:07 PM | #54 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
I deleted my overall review on a whim so here's a per-entry review instead.
B: AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT Fun song. I expected some bouncy, jacky approaches, and a challenge would be how to effectively cut the song or keep the chart intersting against its repetitive nature. All submissions were quite enjoyable. C: GETCHA! (Cover) Surprised at the amount of hate this song received. Well yeah that might not mean much coming from a vtuber pfp, but I think there can be a good amount of attention to detail that would make a chart fresh throughout, even without dumping. D: Fat Lip Now this one is a really difficult one to make an interesting chart out of. (Ironically, this group ended up to be the only group where I gave more than 2 votes...) E: Clumsy Communication A mix of B and C, this song has many viable instruments to pick for charting, but it also requires dealing against repetitiveness. Last edited by jh05013; 10-25-2023 at 10:33 AM.. |
10-22-2023, 12:04 AM | #55 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
The First Public Voting Period has Ended! Here's the results for the First Round: 1st - jh05013 (7) 2nd - Tru (5) 3rd - Matthia (4) 1st - basicdrummerman (6) 2nd - jacobvl39 (1) 3rd - Cuckson (2) 1st - Elite Ninja (5) 2nd - M0nkeyz (4) 3rd - Zoobin4 (3) 1st - storn42 (5) 2nd - ositzxz369 (4) 3rd - Lights (1) 1st - WirryWoo (3) 2nd - xXOpKillerXx (8) 3rd - XelNya (4) A huge congratulations to everyone that participated, played and voted for their favorites! It was quite a riveting battle over the week from every Class for the coveted 1st Place to participate in the Final StepOff! So much so, that we saw last-minute tiebreakers be resolved in the last couple hours of voting! I will be getting prizes (credits, badges and the such) out shortly while juggling the rest of the swap-over period as we transition into the Final StepOff. Participants and voters are now open & free to talk about which file is theirs in-order on the StepCon 2023 engine (if they prefer), and talk about which specific songs they voted for (again, if they prefer). |
10-22-2023, 12:10 AM | #56 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
The Second Stepping Period has Begun! During this time, all participants will have received a Direct Message from me containing the Final StepOff song, and their Pre-built .sm File to begin Charting. All participants will have until the end of Saturday, November 4th 11:59PM SERVER TIME to complete their submissions and submit it to the StepCon 2023 Batch located here. There will be no trading of songs during Final StepOff, as everyone has the same song. Class Exam: Schwank vs. Tanger - deathwish jh05013 basicdrummerman Elite Ninja storn42 WirryWoo Schwank and Tanger come together to form a fusion of genres suited only for the rhythm game scene. How will finalists balance the highs and lows of this high-energy, extremely viable piece behind 2 of the bigger-known Beat Saber musicians? Only time will tell in this year's Final StepOff! 3 participants will be walking away with an extra-special StepOff profile badge (plus a hefty bonus of credits), and the winner will also have this song released to FFR. Best of luck to the Finalists! To other participants, I will be sending out 2nd & 3rd place prizes, and participation prizes in a bit. The Second Judging Period will begin on November 5th. |
10-22-2023, 12:22 AM | #57 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
we did it boys
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10-22-2023, 12:37 AM | #58 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
Well played everyone and congrats to all the winners! The competition was extremely tight @_@
I... I didn't think I was making it this far to be honest and almost wanted to give up early on in the competition but I decided in the end to try my best. Thanks to everyone who voted for me <3 ;-;
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10-22-2023, 12:41 AM | #59 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
i've been defeated by a chair and a storn!
you both made great files, good luck in the finals storn!
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10-22-2023, 01:04 AM | #60 |
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Re: StepCon 2023
Wow! I'll take Taunfolk, Crawling From Hell, and Kokeshi Cat Medley for the event tokens. Thanks!
I went with my comfortable range of near-90, because the chart would be quite complex already and I wasn't confident with stepping it any harder without hindering the readability. I didn't expect mine to be the only entry in that range, lol. Not fully satisfied with my chart so I'll be tweaking it throughout the week, but I'm glad that it was received well. IMO entry 6 nailed everything that I found lacking in my chart's second half, so big kudos to the stepauthor. |
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