Cure for AIDS

[purebloodtexan]

Originally Posted by Crashfan3

That makes sense, but right now there are millions dying from all these "incurable" diseases.

What we need is a solution that keeps all these people from dying, but that doesn't make sure that doctors and scientists aren't put out of work.

Whether that's possible or not, I don't know.

Well, as long as people are making money, I doubt that it's going to happen, no offense.

[Crashfan3]

You're seriously happy with making money while an epidemic is out there destroying lives?
Sad.

[Bahamut-X]

Originally Posted by Crashfan3

You're seriously happy with making money while an epidemic is out there destroying lives?
Sad.

Wow do you really think this is what he meant by that post?

[purebloodtexan]

Originally Posted by Crashfan3

You're seriously happy with making money while an epidemic is out there destroying lives?
Sad.

I never said I was happy. In fact, if I didn't have other things to worry about, I'd be upset. But I'm saying that people have deep pockets, and they do their best to keep it that way.

[OrganisM]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

@hoochan: You heard wrong. Nobody gets "banned" from the US, nor does anyone's book.

That's actually not true. The US can ban you from entering its borders if it deems you a threat to or enemy of the country, and though I don't know of banning books from the US, there are a lot of books which simply... don't show up anywhere and are kept out of public view and opinion.

I don't think it's impossible that there is already an AIDS cure, though I believe it's unlikely. One thing's for sure though: if it's on youtube and we're posting about it on FFR, it's a hoax.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Do the math right.

Meds to help "Treat" cancer + High Price + Years of use = $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Meds that cure Cancer + High Price + One time use = $


Government obviously enjoys the amount of money everyone is spending on medication to treat this epidemic. A release of a cure would stop there money flow buy billions of dollars a year. Its there way of making money, sad but it happens. Look at 9/11...(off topic) We hate Iraq why now... cause Bush framed the Place that had oil... that Bush wanted to go to for a long time already... Exactly

[OrganisM]

Originally Posted by Oni-Paranoia

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You make your points quite eloquently.

[GuidoHunter]

Originally Posted by Grandiagod

I'm going to hit you until you stop being an idiot.

Tons of drugs (people with AIDS can take 30 different prescriptions a day, each ridiculously expensive) over the entire lifetime of the diseased person treating AIDS = Lots of cash

Cure that you only need to use once, or even over a couple years = Not as much cash

I know exactly what you're saying; I'm suggesting that you're looking at an oversimplification.

Consider the people who have AIDS currently. Many accept the inevitability of the outcome and don't bother much with treatments, often because of the high price tag. Were a cure to be available, you know they'd make the money to get it.

You know who else would buy it? Governments. Humanitarian groups. VAST numbers of people intent on the eradication of the pandemic. You know who isn't buying the AIDS treatments currently? Those people.

From a business perspective, it just wouldn't make sense. Let's say a company that is currently making a bunch of money off of AIDS treatments gets a hold of this cure. They could: announce the cure, gain worldwide fame and praise, continue to rake in profits from selling treatments to those who choose to afford it as they develop and test the cure, hire people to count the money pouring in from investments in one of the greatest medical advancements in decades, then, after years and years of continually raking in more and more money, sell a cure that will make them untold billions of dollars to individuals, groups, and governments all around the world. Then, making the strong assumption of global eradication of the disease, after MANY years of raking in profits from the cure, they could move on to their next drug which they had been developing over the past decades and continue to make assloads of money because, let's face it, pharmaceutical companies good enough to develop treatments and cures for AIDS aren't going to be losing money.

Or, they could: sit on their asses and produce the AIDS treatments for job security until someone leaks the cure (highly likely, and would run their business into the ground as the public finds out what they've done), or someone else comes up with a better treatments or independently invents a cure, at which point they'd either be entirely out of work or will skip past all the moneymaking parts of the other scenario and head straight for the new drug.

Which sounds like a better business plan?

EDIT: hahaha, just saw this

Originally Posted by Oni-Paranoia

Bush framed the Place that had oil

BUSH LIED TO US, MAN! IRAQ DOESN'T HAVE OIL AT ALL!

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[UnkownMan]

Yeah, but, I highly doubt someone will come along and actually work on finding a cure for AIDs. I would... But my I.Q. isn't high enough. I'm positive about that (I'm admitting this now). But when someone actually takes their time to progress the findings of a cure, then I'll be there. Not like I do have AIDs or anything. *rolls eyes* But I think that the formula is relatively hard and consists of a lot of scientific procedures to the artificial particles of society. And again, I forgot what I was talking about...

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

then, after years and years of continually raking in more and more money, sell a cure that will make them untold billions of dollars to individuals, groups, and governments all around the world.

This is beyond wrong.

First of all, running a circuit intravenously would probably cost next to nothing. Second of all, this is all infectious diseases. Go to a pharmacy and imagine the numerous aisles of products all replaced with half of an aisle of these devices. Yeah, this is really profitable.

But most importantly, you're ignoring the fact that when you cure a disease on such a large scale with such an affordable pricetag, disease is going to be virtually nonexistant after a point. What do they do then? Sure, they keep them in production for when the occasional less-than-trivial disease pops up, but other than that, their sales are virtually nil.

And you say he's oversimplifying it?

[tsugomaru]

And if we "framed the place that had oil", we wasted a lot of money on it. How are we making money through this war?

~Tsugomaru

[Oni-Paranoia]

framed is a misused term. Overall that whole thing wit 9/11 and Iraq is BS which brings us to here. The chances are high that there is, but it wouldnt matter anyways. The money made for meds is far to high to pass up for the government. Oh and guido, Taxes are paying for that sh!t. Overall, IMO there is a cure but it wont be released if there was. It jus makes sense that way.

Edit 2 Guido: Why else would bush have asked to be there in 2000 and simply got rejected to that matter for not having a reason to be there... And 9/11... possibilities seem endless but it all still leads to our "president" (alien) =P

[tsugomaru]

We aren't in Iraq for the oil. It would be way cheaper to purchase the oil than to actually wage war with them for it.

~Tsugomaru

[Oni-Paranoia]

Iraq had oil which we wanted back in 2000 i believe. We couldnt jus go and take it so a false story of them attacking us gave us reason to send pretty much millions of troops for "war". As stupid as it sounds, its more likely than being there for no reason at all. oh and the US dollar has gone down in value which means we pay more per barrel of oil worldwide (another reason for being greedy).

[tsugomaru]

I didn't say we were there for no reason. I'm saying the reason wasn't oil. If we wanted oil, we would have just bought it instead because that would have saved us considerably instead of going to war for it.

~Tsugomaru

[MooMoo_Cowfreak]

I've got an idea!!

Use a ****ing condom! (Yeah I know you can still can get a HIV, but a condom certainly helps.)

And if the cure does exist, the would probably use it in Africa for testing or something. And then our government would not even want it because they're lots of money, as Grandia has said, then why would us money freaks want it?

Originally Posted by Oni-Paranoia

We couldnt jus go and take it so a false story of them attacking us gave us reason to send pretty much millions of troops for "war".

You are kidding right? Yes, I agree, it was dumb that we attacked all of Iraq in the first place, since 9/11 had nothing to do with Iraq itself, but 9/11 was anything but a false story.