Make your computer a Mathematician - Page 2

tnyhwk900 · 09-13-2004, 02:39 PM

Wow, people. You don't have to like math to do this.

It's run by itself, so it doesn't have anything to do with you while it's running.

Besides, it supports FFR (kinda). So do it.

**Squeek** · 09-13-2004, 03:29 PM

For those that have stated in the thread that they are a part of this and/or have already signed up...make sure your points are working towards the team. We've only got 4 listed (See below)

If you used your real e-mail for the signup, you should have gotten an e-mail telling you your password. Login and select "Team FFR" from the "Team Affiliation" page. Then you're REALLY working for FFR without actually doing anything...

Here's the list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Site

Team Roster

1 DeltroX 49.748 G cEMs 774.391 K cEMs/sec 575.783 K cEMs/sec
2 ElSoyokaze 16.498 G cEMs 290.972 K cEMs/sec 190.944 K cEMs/sec
3 87x 15.248 G cEMs 296.736 K cEMs/sec 176.479 K cEMs/sec
4 Squeek 5.499 G cEMs 848.619 K cEMs/sec 63.646 K cEMs/sec

So, Deltro, "ElSoyokaze" (?), 87x, and me.

~Squeek

GuidoHunter · 09-13-2004, 03:37 PM

The site says team stats are updated every day about midnight CST. Now, I don't know about the members for each team, as Squeek signed up today, but after I read that tnyhwk and Squeek signed up, I checked and their names weren't on the list (though Squeek's is, now). I dunno.

Lessee, Deltro, 87x, Squeek, and I have all said we've joined. Who could that mysterious "ElSoyokaze" be? Happy deducing...

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

**Squeek** · 09-13-2004, 06:25 PM

Sheesh... I seriously thought I was making good progress until now.

I've figured out what this program does.

Basically, it assigns you a "k" number and an "n" number. Then it sends you blocks of data to calculate those numbers within the formula given. If you notice within the program it tells you block percentage and something called "full test" percentage. Well, unfortunately, "full test" is the FULL amount of time it takes to computer those two numbers within the formula just to check if it's prime. That's right. You're taking away only one possibility in about a week's time. This is an insane amount of computation occuring here. I have it set on "high" to take it down as fast as possible and in five hours I've seen a total progress of 4.5%.

Just checked the logs. I've done almost 60 blocks in that 5 hours. I have over 1,250 to go. HERE I GO.

~Squeek

tnyhwk900 · 09-13-2004, 06:59 PM

Are you serious? It's taken me 7 1/2 hours to do 25. =/

I didn't have it on full power though.

tnyhwk900 · 09-13-2004, 07:13 PM

Holy crap, we're at rank 69 omg <3

And why aren't I on the list? Wtf?

GuidoHunter · 09-13-2004, 07:17 PM

Not overall, dude. We're about 278 or so compared to ALL the other teams. We haven't moved much, and until we get a lot more people, we won't.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

ThEclipse · 09-13-2004, 07:19 PM

Math sucks. Badly.

**87x** · 09-13-2004, 07:34 PM

it will update at midnight.. and we will be at a much higher rank

**Squeek** · 09-13-2004, 07:41 PM

CONFIRMED.

You have to do the following to ensure your hard work is adding to the value of TEAM FFR.

Make sure that when you made your account you told the program your correct e-mail. An e-mail will be sent to you with your password. To login, go here.

http://www.seventeenorbust.com/login/

Once logged in, click "Preferences". From there, find "Team Affiliation". Click the link at the end of the paragraph and find "Team FFR" in the drop-down menu. Once selected, that should be it. Now you're working for us!

Edit - 87x, we're going to be moving up at least 70 ranks.

~Squeek

PS - Since Tny just did it, it seems that your "solo" work is carried over into the team when you do the above. All is not lost from your first go with the program when you did not know about how to really sign up for a team. Just get on the team as soon as you can so you can see your real status as compared with the rest of the FFR Team.

PPS -

GuidoHunter · 09-13-2004, 07:45 PM

Okay, here's what I understand:

A Sierpinski number is a k value which will yield a prime number if it is multiplied by a number 2^n and has one added to it (i.e. k2^n+1. Parenthesis used appropriately; remember order of operations.). There were seventeen candidates under 78557, and Seventeen or Bust has narrowed those down to eleven by finding an n value for six of the k values. If there can be found an n value for each of the remaining eleven, the Sierpinski conjecture will be proven. Until then, the search will go on, hence the name "Seventeen or Bust".

As Squeek said, they send you one k value (of the eleven remaining) and one n value. You devote many many hours of computations for that one value. If it's not prime, you get another n value. If it is prime, you will be quite recognized by the community of people who really care. I'm currently working on k=10223 and n=6531461. So, if (10223 x 2^6531461)+1 is prime, the number of candidates will be reduced to ten, getting ever closer to proving the conjecture.

Hey, Squeek, how did you set whatever it was to "high"? All I can see to change is the priority from Normal to Low to Idle.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

**Squeek** · 09-13-2004, 07:52 PM

Gah...second person to ask.

When I said "high", I meant "the highest it can go", AKA Normal.

My K value is 33661 and the N value is 6,915,888.

Guido, read my last post on page two to verify that your time spent is going towards our team. Tny just did it and it updated him into the list instantly.

~Squeek

deltro300111 · 09-13-2004, 07:54 PM

c'mon now, I think this deserves a sticky, and ,.. like maybe a news thing.. not only do we get free advertising, but we have the chance of solving an age old math problem, maybe getting FFR in math books, records,... tell me that wouldn't be cool XD XD XD

**87x** · 09-13-2004, 08:12 PM

Yea, and also confirmed.. that if you set the SB prog's priority to normal in the actuall program and then set it to high on your task manager, it will complete the blocks a lot faster...

Here are some little test's I have preformed as proof of this..
(all percentages are taken from a 10 second time period)
-Prog settings -Task Manager Settings -Results
Idle Normal 1.1% blck
Low Normal 1.4% blck
Normal Normal 1.7% blck
Idle High 1.3% blck
Low High 1.9% blck
Normal High 2.1% blck

I didn't dare try doing those on real time because im afraid my comp would freeze just for moving my mouse over top of the "realtime" button... I had to record the times for low and normal percentages on high setting with my cell phone... because it was messing up my clock on the computer..

Those little differences might not seem like much written down like that.. but when dealing with such a big equation, that little extra .3% or .6% can make a huge difference in time..

Just for reference Im using a 1.6 ghz p4... 512 ddr ram... 80 gig hd (if that had anything to do with it)...

Well.. Im going to keep mine on idle(sb prog) - Normal(task manager), settings until I get off then im going to turn it up to Normal(sb prog) - High(task manager) to run through the night....

BTW, I still have my fan setup in front of the computer to keep it cool, lol, Probably not making a difference on speed.. but is making a huge difference on comp case temperature..

tnyhwk900 · 09-13-2004, 08:19 PM

Cmon, sticky it. This is the next Project Dolphin thing.

And I am so relieved it carried my work over to Team FFR. My comp had been running SB for 8 hours =P

EDIT:
Current k value: 21181
Current n value: 6654044

**Moogy** · 09-13-2004, 08:21 PM

I joined

**87x** · 09-13-2004, 08:24 PM

Yea, I got a total of like .8 days... as it says.. which is like 16 hours, if im reading that "24-hour user rate" chart correctly...

"EDIT"
Current K= 21181
Current N= 6915860

Also.. has anyone tried running two Sb progs at the same time?

tnyhwk900 · 09-13-2004, 08:25 PM

Awesome. 6 members. GOGOGOGOGO

**Squeek** · 09-13-2004, 08:27 PM

REALTIME'D.

Man this is still not enough. Got several downloads going, windows media player is on nonstop, this program is running on REALTIME on Normal mode, and I've got tons of tabs open on Opera while chatting on several different programs.

What does it take to lag out this amazing peice of machinery?!

~Squeek

GuidoHunter · 09-13-2004, 08:28 PM

Squeek's powers of deduction have fallen far below my expectations. I guess I can just come out and SAY that I'm ElSoyokaze.

And I made the mistake of putting SoB on high priority while I had five IE windows open. That REALLY slowed things down, so I'm keeping it on Normal/Normal.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

09-13-2004, 02:39 PM	#21
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 35 Posts: 4,106	Wow, people. You don't have to like math to do this. It's run by itself, so it doesn't have anything to do with you while it's running. Besides, it supports FFR (kinda). So do it. __________________

09-13-2004, 06:25 PM	#24
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	Realization Sheesh... I seriously thought I was making good progress until now. I've figured out what this program does. Basically, it assigns you a "k" number and an "n" number. Then it sends you blocks of data to calculate those numbers within the formula given. If you notice within the program it tells you block percentage and something called "full test" percentage. Well, unfortunately, "full test" is the FULL amount of time it takes to computer those two numbers within the formula just to check if it's prime. That's right. You're taking away only one possibility in about a week's time. This is an insane amount of computation occuring here. I have it set on "high" to take it down as fast as possible and in five hours I've seen a total progress of 4.5%. Just checked the logs. I've done almost 60 blocks in that 5 hours. I have over 1,250 to go. HERE I GO. ~Squeek

09-13-2004, 06:59 PM	#25
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 35 Posts: 4,106	RE: Realization Are you serious? It's taken me 7 1/2 hours to do 25. =/ I didn't have it on full power though. __________________

09-13-2004, 07:13 PM	#26
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 35 Posts: 4,106	RE: Realization Holy crap, we're at rank 69 omg <3 And why aren't I on the list? Wtf? __________________

09-13-2004, 07:34 PM	#29
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	it will update at midnight.. and we will be at a much higher rank __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

09-13-2004, 07:19 PM	#28
ThEclipse FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: i did it all for the nookie Posts: 1,641	Math sucks. Badly.

09-13-2004, 07:41 PM	#30
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	CONFIRMED. You have to do the following to ensure your hard work is adding to the value of TEAM FFR. Make sure that when you made your account you told the program your correct e-mail. An e-mail will be sent to you with your password. To login, go here. http://www.seventeenorbust.com/login/ Once logged in, click "Preferences". From there, find "Team Affiliation". Click the link at the end of the paragraph and find "Team FFR" in the drop-down menu. Once selected, that should be it. Now you're working for us! Edit - 87x, we're going to be moving up at least 70 ranks. ~Squeek PS - Since Tny just did it, it seems that your "solo" work is carried over into the team when you do the above. All is not lost from your first go with the program when you did not know about how to really sign up for a team. Just get on the team as soon as you can so you can see your real status as compared with the rest of the FFR Team. PPS -

09-13-2004, 07:52 PM	#32
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	Gah...second person to ask. When I said "high", I meant "the highest it can go", AKA Normal. My K value is 33661 and the N value is 6,915,888. Guido, read my last post on page two to verify that your time spent is going towards our team. Tny just did it and it updated him into the list instantly. ~Squeek

09-13-2004, 07:54 PM	#33
deltro300111 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: d colon Age: 36 Posts: 1,014	c'mon now, I think this deserves a sticky, and ,.. like maybe a news thing.. not only do we get free advertising, but we have the chance of solving an age old math problem, maybe getting FFR in math books, records,... tell me that wouldn't be cool XD XD XD __________________

09-13-2004, 08:12 PM	#34
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	Yea, and also confirmed.. that if you set the SB prog's priority to normal in the actuall program and then set it to high on your task manager, it will complete the blocks a lot faster... Here are some little test's I have preformed as proof of this.. (all percentages are taken from a 10 second time period) -Prog settings -Task Manager Settings -Results Idle Normal 1.1% blck Low Normal 1.4% blck Normal Normal 1.7% blck Idle High 1.3% blck Low High 1.9% blck Normal High 2.1% blck I didn't dare try doing those on real time because im afraid my comp would freeze just for moving my mouse over top of the "realtime" button... I had to record the times for low and normal percentages on high setting with my cell phone... because it was messing up my clock on the computer.. Those little differences might not seem like much written down like that.. but when dealing with such a big equation, that little extra .3% or .6% can make a huge difference in time.. Just for reference Im using a 1.6 ghz p4... 512 ddr ram... 80 gig hd (if that had anything to do with it)... Well.. Im going to keep mine on idle(sb prog) - Normal(task manager), settings until I get off then im going to turn it up to Normal(sb prog) - High(task manager) to run through the night.... BTW, I still have my fan setup in front of the computer to keep it cool, lol, Probably not making a difference on speed.. but is making a huge difference on comp case temperature.. __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

09-13-2004, 08:19 PM	#35
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 35 Posts: 4,106	Cmon, sticky it. This is the next Project Dolphin thing. And I am so relieved it carried my work over to Team FFR. My comp had been running SB for 8 hours =P EDIT: Current k value: 21181 Current n value: 6654044 __________________

09-13-2004, 08:21 PM	#36
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	I joined __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

09-13-2004, 08:24 PM	#37
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	Yea, I got a total of like .8 days... as it says.. which is like 16 hours, if im reading that "24-hour user rate" chart correctly... "EDIT" Current K= 21181 Current N= 6915860 Also.. has anyone tried running two Sb progs at the same time? __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

09-13-2004, 08:25 PM	#38
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 35 Posts: 4,106	Awesome. 6 members. GOGOGOGOGO __________________

09-13-2004, 08:27 PM	#39
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	REALTIME'D. Man this is still not enough. Got several downloads going, windows media player is on nonstop, this program is running on REALTIME on Normal mode, and I've got tons of tabs open on Opera while chatting on several different programs. What does it take to lag out this amazing peice of machinery?! ~Squeek

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