Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

[Not devonin]

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does it explain the amount of asscrack? thanks for putting it into perspective for me btw Dev. How long is a typical chess tournament? One week?

The major ones tend to be about 10 days, and you'll play 5 or 6 games.

At that level, you can burn around 6000 calories in a day where you play, and their blood pressure hangs around competitive marathon runner levels.

[Rapta]

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The major ones tend to be about 10 days, and you'll play 5 or 6 games.

At that level, you can burn around 6000 calories in a day where you play, and their blood pressure hangs around competitive marathon runner levels.

i enjoy these facts you are posting

[Not devonin]

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Fun chess fact:

The 1984 World Chess Championship between Karpov and Kasparov was to be decided "First to 6 wins"

Five months and 48 games later, with the record standing at Karpov 5, Kasparov 3 and 40 draws, the Championship was cancelled, due to the strain on the health of the players. Karpov had lost 20 pounds.

[the sun fan]

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decades ago, being a pro chess player (if the term pro can be applied) was not prestigious
you were basically considered a professional gambler

I think that, in decades to come, professional gaming will experience a similar change (not to say that I think people view gamers as gamblers, but the addict part could apply) and it will eventually become more prestigious to be a professional gamer

[Not devonin]

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I don't think anybody currently views Pro Chess as anything like Gambling, and it's probably considered one of the peak pure skill pursuits to which one could apply themselves (I'd say Go, but it has less global appeal by an order of magnitude)

There's been a strong push in the last 5-8 years to bring eSports into the same sphere as traditional sports, and a lot of them have plenty of similarities and with marketing and budgets behind them, they've definitely become a legitimate career path for people who have the facility with them.

[MixMasterLar]

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Did not know these chess facts, pretty neat

[j-rodd123]

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The major ones tend to be about 10 days, and you'll play 5 or 6 games.

At that level, you can burn around 6000 calories in a day where you play, and their blood pressure hangs around competitive marathon runner levels.

Had no clue chess players burned that many calories, that is indeed interesting. the blood pressure statement means nothing though and can extend to almost anything with a lot of tension/pressure regardless of being physical

[Not devonin]

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It's the "sustaining blood pressure at those levels for multiple consecutive hours" part.

[j-rodd123]

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Yea again sustained elevated blood pressure is not a great metric for this. People with bad anxiety can go to work and have similar elevated blood pressure just sitting at a desk trying to do paperwork all day lol

[j-rodd123]

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But I guess if the point is saying that high level chess tournaments are mentally taxing and physically draining then yes it seems that is true

[V-Ormix]

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I feel like there is a definitely a feed back loop people fall into regardless of their subsequent initial subjection to what games they pursue, but after the fact remains easier to rationalize involvement by having their evolution of logic influenced by the very nature of time and sought after virtue.

A game is a game but can we not admit life is in fact a game? My rough understanding at face value is that a game is some thing to be played and serves merely to obtain some ones attention by design - games using such qualities of vibe being a fusion of all genres of art in theory can't not be attractive. Life with the potential subject of debate suggesting you don't merely get to 'play' life or at least not all the time is a contrast with in another contrast serving to separate this blurry line of a game and our conscious existence.

Being good at some thing is an amazing feeling and one that no can buy or pretend to have - and while I can understand people taking the stance of life before a game, its the process of living in a window of you're life time that allows you the luxury of defining what has purpose to you and makes life worth living at all :v

[Not devonin]

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Games, to me are a specific and distinct things with qualitative difference between games, sports, activities etc.

So "Life is a game" while very Shakespearean isn't how I'd choose to define it, or use the word in a thread that is more directly dealing with ludology.

[MixMasterLar]

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Today I looked up what Ludology meant

[V-Ormix]

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well I mean games reside in "life" so life isn't exactly a game unless its purpose or definition was akin to a game like being entertained or if we were literally just here to play 8u

It's all differing from person to person in their preference but for me I've described it before as being a trial with many under and over tones putting ones susceptibility to the test of principal.

edit: but on the basis of the thread topics title as a question: is more respect deserved?? I think not. Respect is some thing that I view as a choice of an individual to give. Not receiving respect from everyone wont change likewise some ones choice to engage/embrace them either.

the idea of "more" respect might only be a matter of time with the upbringing of these newer generations, video games will only become more respected the greater leaps they make in all aspects. That to me is truly deserving of respect if some thing can change with the times and then peoples minds.

demanding respect though, I wouldn't be able to wrap my head around that.

editv2: lastly, I think its probably important to consider the context of said respect were it might matter more than not: If some one is in the same sphere as some one deliberately to make a point of "disrespecting" them when they themselves are a universe away from that kind of respect then under those terms could be construed as ignorant and of certain loss.

It seems possible that some one could not technically go out of their way to "respect" gaming to some level of acceptance deemed by a avid member of a community but then don't necessarily look down upon it accept with in exceptions of certain limits of their feasibility to weigh their own ideals :v

[Not devonin]

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This is part of why the eSports industry is using the term eSports and not referring to what's being done as "playing games" because games and sports are distinct kinds of things.

I don't understand what you're trying to say by saying "is more respect deserved?? I think not. Respect is some thing that I view as a choice of an individual to give" because those two things aren't mutually exclusive at all.

You the individual can choose to respect professional athletes or not as a class or individuals as you like, but the question is about the greater societal perception of the field as a career, as a pursuit and as a spectacle to watch.