Elections Canada 2011

[kommisar]

wow what a ****ed up election. ignatieff lost in his own riding, green party gets its first ever seat in parliament, ndp gets the most seats they've ever had in canadian history and becomes official opposition, wow.


disgusted at conservative majority. let's see how long it takes for another election hehu

[Zageron]

Originally Posted by kommisar

wow what a ****ed up election. ignatieff lost in his own riding, green party gets its first ever seat in parliament, ndp gets the most seats they've ever had in canadian history and becomes official opposition, wow.


disgusted at conservative majority. let's see how long it takes for another election hehu

I'm dreaming for a 'Great-Conservative-****up'.

What I would do to see the Canadian people kick Harper out of his seat.

[smartdude1212]

I'm part of the giant orange wave, and obviously disgusted with a Conservative majority, but let's think of the positives:

In 5 years, when the Conservatives leave behind remnants of Canada, the survivors will realize that he actually ****ed up and they won't choose him again! (hopefully)

In 5 years, when staunch elderly Conservative supporters have died off due to plague or virulent strains of something hazardous, the new, more free-thinking generation will (hopefully) elect the proper party [seriously, I'd be hard pressed to find a handful of people my age who currently support Harper's fascist regime].

Or we could just storm Ottawa and kill the mother****er. My torch is ready.

[Patricoo]

Woh wait hold on, hold on. Someone explain this to an American. You guys called an election from a no-confidence of the majority party due cuz why? Them not being open enough and corruption, right? Then... in the end... the supposed corrupt party actually GAINS seats. WTF Canada. Ball, dropped.

Parliamentary systems are weird.

[kommisar]

Blame it on the older generation being very gullible and western Canada in general.

People who were all like "Screw Ignatieff he's American!!" obviously haven't looked into it enough and don't know that he was one of the most qualified politicians running. He's Canadian get over it. Starting to sound like fucen Obama birthers like come on. A shame he didn't win his seat though...

Orange wave ftw. Glad to see the NDP finally getting some influence on parliament.


What's upsetting me the most as a francophone is that Harper doesn't give two shits about Québec or Atlantic Canada and doesn't support bilingual laws. Now that he has a majority, I'm afraid that my rights as a French-Canadian are being challenged. Since he's not choosing to raise taxes to help our economic situation, he's forced to cut spending, potentially on the health sector which directly affects my salary =/

[ddr_f4n]

Originally Posted by smartdude1212

I'm part of the giant orange wave, and obviously disgusted with a Conservative majority, but let's think of the positives:

In 5 years, when the Conservatives leave behind remnants of Canada, the survivors will realize that he actually ****ed up and they won't choose him again! (hopefully)

In 5 years, when staunch elderly Conservative supporters have died off due to plague or virulent strains of something hazardous, the new, more free-thinking generation will (hopefully) elect the proper party [seriously, I'd be hard pressed to find a handful of people my age who currently support Harper's fascist regime].

Or we could just storm Ottawa and kill the mother****er. My torch is ready.

Except y'know, the majority of Conservatives are either rich old giant business people or Super Christian/religious sects, both stubborn as hell and won't change.

The bigger problem is how many moved from Libs to Cons instead of NDP =/. The voting system sucks ass. We need it to be more like Peru. Do a first voting system, if a party doesn't get more then 50% votes, then it'll be a re-election between the top two parties. And NDP was the only one willing to change the voting system entirely. Cons wanted to get rid of the other parties completely by bankrupting them, and the shit like that.

I think America sounds like a nice place to live in now.

[Patricoo]

Originally Posted by kommisar

Orange wave ftw. Glad to see the NDP finally getting some influence on parliament.

What's upsetting me the most as a francophone is that Harper doesn't give two shits about Québec or Atlantic Canada and doesn't support bilingual laws. Now that he has a majority, I'm afraid that my rights as a French-Canadian are being challenged. Since he's not choosing to raise taxes to help our economic situation, he's forced to cut spending, potentially on the health sector which directly affects my salary =/

Yikes. Yea from what I see of the BQ going completely away that the French-Canadian is now likely to be an NDP person. Does he not support the spread bilingual laws or that he wants the removal of existing ones?

Originally Posted by ddr_f4n

The bigger problem is how many moved from Libs to Cons instead of NDP =/. The voting system sucks ass. We need it to be more like Peru. Do a first voting system, if a party doesn't get more then 50% votes, then it'll be a re-election between the top two parties. And NDP was the only one willing to change the voting system entirely. Cons wanted to get rid of the other parties completely by bankrupting them, and the shit like that.

I think America sounds like a nice place to live in now.

Bwuahh... I think the French system might be a better system of comparison then the Peruvian one. :P

[Reach]

In 5 years, when the Conservatives leave behind remnants of Canada, the survivors will realize that he actually ****ed up and they won't choose him again! (hopefully)

Alberta isn't going to budge by next election, and Saskatchewan won't likely either. Nor will New Brunswick, most likely.

Of course, there are a lot of seats in Ontario/Manitoba/BC that can get switched. Hopefully that can turn the tide of the battle, especially when Canadians continue to become less and less satisfied with conservatives.


Either way, the NDP has mostly been leeching its spots from Liberals, and the Bloc, and has largely not touched conservative ridings. This happened rather recently; about a month or two ago the Liberals were still dominating the NDP. I don't know why the sudden switch, personally.

Either way, if Harper is the one that needs to go, people are going to have to do more than just jump on the NDP bandwagon, because if it's at the expense of the Liberal party, Harper will win again anyway.

D:

It is, however, nice to see the Bloc fall. It's about time.

I highly favor the liberals, given they have always given more funding to education, and to science research, which is something that is important to me, and everyone, IMO. They also have good green incentives in their platform, something critically missing in Canada right now.

There isn't a lot that appeals to me from the NDP, though I would take them over the conservatives, personally, since the conservative platform is almost entirely useless IMO other than the fact that it's appealing at first sight to see 'WOW, even lower taxes! Herp!'

I mean, it's nice that Layton wants to hire more doctors and nurses, but I would be interested in more details on how he plans to do this. New seats at most medical facilities in Canada are ridiculously expensive and if anything the trend has been to sell these seats to foreign countries in the past years for $...! I don't like this solution at ALL D:

[Mans0n]

How are you people just now realizing canada sucks?

[kommisar]

manson you have no friends


Layton's ideas were ver expensive, but I'm guessing his approach is a spend and stimulate strategy which can mess things up even worse if done prematurely.

Harper's strategy isn't really helping anyone in the middle class. Lowering taxes isn't helping that the cost of living is stupidly high and that people still won't be able to spend that extra imaginary money on shit they can't afford.

What I don't understand is that Harper got chased out of his own office, then wins a majority? I thought people were already pissed at his awful performance.

[Zageron]

It was the House of Commons that chased him out, not the Canadian people.
It's just sad that the majority of Canada doesn't want the Conservatives, but they got in anyways.

[kommisar]

idk man 40% that voted conservative is a pretty big number

[Hakulyte]

Votes should be reserved to people who knows what they're doing because it's messing up the statistics. I'm saying this because I don't know what I'm doing and it's probably how's the majority thinking. You guys are the 1% who's probably right but will fail because the 99% is not informed correctly. Politics should be banned of using marketing approaches to get votes and should be forced to point out directly facts and/or a different way should be used to vote. They should ask you to go to some meeting before voting and talk about politics with 20 random people or something and then vote. I bet the votes would be completely different.. I did find information but it was relative like hell and nearly pointless because it gives only a general idea which is probably not reality.

ps: I voted conservative based on a misunderstanding. /fail

[Izzy]

There are a lot of people that complain that a vote from a retarded uneducated person is worth the same as someone who closely follows politics and entirely understands the election process.

[Kraezymann]

Iggy is gone now, too

[Patricoo]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

They should ask you to go to some meeting before voting and talk about politics with 20 random people or something and then vote. I bet the votes would be completely different..

Resident political know-it-all here! Tah dah!

Believe it or not, we have that here in a America in a few states during the primaries. In fact, Iowa is famous for it (because it usually is one of the lead off states.) Its called a caucus. Studies show that there is no real differential between the people who go vote in caucus style elections and open polls. Why? Because the people willing to "further educate" themselves are often more polarized and set in their ways. The ones more open to change and the sway of votes are actually the ones least interested.

You can't win, bitch! Muahahaha!

[kommisar]

im going to start my own country and interview everyone before they come in to judge if they're smart enough to become a citizen. crisis averted

[Artic_counter]

That seems to be the only solution. Let us all go to Greenland.

Seriously, though, I'm really anxious about what's going to to happen next. I for sure do not want death punishment by electrical chair and anti-abortion laws. I also do not want my college tuition to go up xD. I'm going into college next year and the next few years are going to harsh for my wallets. At least, my parents are willing to help me out.

Elections were highly disappointing.

I'm considering moving to Sweden or Norvegia if things get worst lol.

[smartdude1212]

Originally Posted by Reach

Alberta isn't going to budge by next election

Well of course not, especially if Harper keeps turning a blind eye to the oil companies and if Layton continues to threaten them with the idea of cleaning up their act. I was recently at my grandparent's 50th wedding anniversary, and a few relatives from Alberta were there. They were telling us about how so many people in Alberta are rubbing boners for Conservatives, and my grandmother even said that when her sister had phoned to chat the week before, she had told her not to vote for "that socialist" and instead vote for Harper. I couldn't help but roll my eyes.

Saskatchewan won't likely either.

Saskatchewan is more likely to get out of this Conservative slump though. Of the 14 ridings in this province, there were 13 Conservatives and 1 Liberal in the last election. That Liberal happens to be Ralph Goodale, so he's typically bound to be elected again and again due to his popularity, although his win margin during the last election was much greater than in this one (last night I saw it at 3-400 votes). Saskatchewan is pretty torn between the Conservatives and the NDP, but I know that one other riding went to the NDP. From what I saw of the election coverage, the Conservatives didn't really run away with any of the ridings. Quite frankly I hope it's a step in a new direction for this province.

Nor will New Brunswick, most likely.

I pay less attention to what happens in the east so I don't know about this one.

I just found this map of the election that compares with 2008, and it's interesting to see how some provinces shifted dramatically while others didn't change at all.

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpr...503lastone.jpg
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/05...-canada-voted/

Hopefully Layton proves to be an excellent Opposition leader.

[kommisar]

new brunswick has always been 50/50 actually. recently though, the greater moncton area has been turning conservative. it's easily changed though, just depends who can say more shit about the other team. people here are gullible