@ You who told me to play SM to improve... - Page 2

knife called lust · 11-4-2009, 03:26 PM

i hear you mythix... this is kmay as most should know by now, and dam i have gotten a lot worse at FFR since SM i can FC a lot better now but PA sucks

dm47 · 11-5-2009, 03:52 AM

you probably should have played ffr every once and a while during your sm extravaganza. I had a little bit of trouble when I first started playing a ton of sm but if you play them both every now and then you'll start to feel the changes that you need to make in order to get the best PA/MA on each game.

Dr Tran · 11-5-2009, 04:01 AM

i quit playing and started stepping and now i suck at both equally

**WTFBrandon** · 11-5-2009, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sayuncle990

Actually, play 6-key. It's the best for improving FFR.

Wtf is 6 ke... OH YOU MEAN SOLO!
Never heard someone call it 6 keys before, i was thinking about a different game for a second.
Solo rulz.

The only way to improve is like Tera said, the files you play.
Play tons of harder songs you can't FC easily, at least 30+ misses on it or more and keep working at it.
Not saying the harder the better here but... Limit yourself to playing harder songs than you normally do and keep going up.
That's how you originally got to be as good as you are now right? Playing and trying harder songs each day on FFR, not the same songs over and over.
So follow the same pattern.
pce

**kommisar** · 11-5-2009, 05:05 AM

ppl call it 6key since keybeat. solo is the "stepmania/ddr" way of calling it apparently.

stepmania also delivers more of a challenge with an added timing option and pretty much every file that's better than the dumps in ffr.

**Ghakimx** · 11-5-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RB_Killer

dockswabber

lolwut

**SKG_Scintill** · 11-5-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Tran

i quit playing and started stepping and now i suck at both equally

I quit playing FFR, but started both stepping and playing SM, now I am fairly decent at both but I suck at FFR.

**DossarLX ODI** · 11-5-2009, 08:33 AM

I actually tried a variety of files and I'm suddenly as fast as I am now haha - my best advice is to not start off trying to do easy to challenging songs (speaking in ffr difficulty terms). Trying to do, let's say, trip to the moon until you can AAA it does not affect how well you perform on harder songs. Oh sure you can get accuracy on an easy song but what will happen when you go up to the master songs? This was a perfect example of when I had rank 1 on death piano back in the day - I wasn't exactly great at scoring on the other files but death piano is a song about speed, not AAA'ing patterns for the entire song so I could afford to get goods at certain areas. On other files (FMO's are a great example) your rank gets downgraded to 30 or higher if you get a good.

I think it may also have to do with a bad keyboard and sliding. Going all MA won't exactly prepare you for harder songs.

**NekoGon** · 11-5-2009, 09:59 AM

play MA songs and you beat dossar at 95% of all SM files

**WTFBrandon** · 11-5-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kommisar

ppl call it 6key since keybeat. solo is the "stepmania/ddr" way of calling it apparently.

stepmania also delivers more of a challenge with an added timing option and pretty much every file that's better than the dumps in ffr.

and DJ Max is 6 key :3
Just got that yesterday... It's bomb

**revolutionomega** · 11-5-2009, 11:38 AM

lol rubix + solo= phael v2

PhaeL v2 · 11-5-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by revolutionomega

lol rubix + solo= phael v2

Nice joke with my username.

Edit: Also, as I was explaining to Bluearrow last night, my username DOES NOT sound like "fail", it's pronounced with an acute accent on the E, like "phaÉL", because it's not an "english" name, where the E sounds like "ee".

**Artic_counter** · 11-5-2009, 12:41 PM

It's normal. With some time, your SM skills are going to transfer to your FFR skills. Maybe. That's what happened to me I think and look : I now have 5 FGO AAA !!!

**Goldenwind** · 11-5-2009, 10:01 PM

You're not good enough yet.
SM is proper and accurate. You got used to that.

FFR is improper, and off-sync in most cases. If you try to use your "skill" to hit on-sync, it's just going to kill your score.

If you improve further, you'll learn to sightread, and adapt to each individual song. You can complain all you want about it being off-sync, but fact is you're relying on your ears too much. FFR is imperfect, so adapt to it, or go play something that's more perfect.

I play SM and ITG for the majority of my playing, and have gotten to the point where I get up to 99.51% on pad (9ft song), and 99.96% on keyboard (1 excellent, 11ft song).

Also, using sightreading, I got 90% Greats on a 12ft song. I'm PURPOSELY hitting offbeat, to get a great, and see how many I can get. That's something that relying on your ears won't give you.

Go play SM.

OneHandNow · 11-5-2009, 10:37 PM

Stomp pa in the nuts

**virus003** · 11-5-2009, 10:40 PM

u mad

Dr Tran · 11-6-2009, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhaeL v2

Nice joke with my username.

Edit: Also, as I was explaining to Bluearrow last night, my username DOES NOT sound like "fail", it's pronounced with an acute accent on the E, like "phaÉL", because it's not an "english" name, where the E sounds like "ee".

so its like feel ?_?

PhaeL v2 · 11-6-2009, 09:03 AM

forgot about the A. >_>
pronounce phá-él, or anything but "fail", it's good like that

Edit: whatever...

**SKG_Scintill** · 11-6-2009, 11:18 AM

Like Raphael?

PhaeL v2 · 11-6-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

Like Raphael?

Yes.

raPhaeL, get it?

11-4-2009, 03:26 PM	#21
knife called lust FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 201	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... i hear you mythix... this is kmay as most should know by now, and dam i have gotten a lot worse at FFR since SM i can FC a lot better now but PA sucks __________________ Worried about being eliminated in Gun92's 4th epic partner tourney? Don't be I have the post that will have all the updates in it. Scarred Potter?

11-5-2009, 03:52 AM	#22
dm47 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 14	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... you probably should have played ffr every once and a while during your sm extravaganza. I had a little bit of trouble when I first started playing a ton of sm but if you play them both every now and then you'll start to feel the changes that you need to make in order to get the best PA/MA on each game.

11-5-2009, 04:01 AM	#23
Dr Tran Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,134	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... i quit playing and started stepping and now i suck at both equally

11-5-2009, 05:05 AM	#25
kommisar Dark Chancellor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moncton, NB Age: 33 Posts: 7,301	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... ppl call it 6key since keybeat. solo is the "stepmania/ddr" way of calling it apparently. stepmania also delivers more of a challenge with an added timing option and pretty much every file that's better than the dumps in ffr.

11-5-2009, 08:33 AM	#28
DossarLX ODI Batch Manager Game Manager, Song Release Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Age: 29 Posts: 14,868	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... I actually tried a variety of files and I'm suddenly as fast as I am now haha - my best advice is to not start off trying to do easy to challenging songs (speaking in ffr difficulty terms). Trying to do, let's say, trip to the moon until you can AAA it does not affect how well you perform on harder songs. Oh sure you can get accuracy on an easy song but what will happen when you go up to the master songs? This was a perfect example of when I had rank 1 on death piano back in the day - I wasn't exactly great at scoring on the other files but death piano is a song about speed, not AAA'ing patterns for the entire song so I could afford to get goods at certain areas. On other files (FMO's are a great example) your rank gets downgraded to 30 or higher if you get a good. I think it may also have to do with a bad keyboard and sliding. Going all MA won't exactly prepare you for harder songs. Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 11-5-2009 at 08:36 AM..

11-5-2009, 09:59 AM	#29
NekoGon щ(ﾟДﾟщ) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Malaysia Age: 33 Posts: 2,709	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... play MA songs and you beat dossar at 95% of all SM files __________________

11-5-2009, 11:38 AM	#31
revolutionomega FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: White Plains, New York Age: 32 Posts: 2,240	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... lol rubix + solo= phael v2 __________________ "AW MAN, WE SUCK AGAIN!" - Rob Schneider, The Waterboy (1998)

11-5-2009, 12:41 PM	#33
Artic_counter FFR Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In your anus. Right corner Age: 30 Posts: 1,002	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... It's normal. With some time, your SM skills are going to transfer to your FFR skills. Maybe. That's what happened to me I think and look : I now have 5 FGO AAA !!! __________________

11-5-2009, 10:01 PM	#34
Goldenwind FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Age: 36 Posts: 762	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... You're not good enough yet. SM is proper and accurate. You got used to that. FFR is improper, and off-sync in most cases. If you try to use your "skill" to hit on-sync, it's just going to kill your score. If you improve further, you'll learn to sightread, and adapt to each individual song. You can complain all you want about it being off-sync, but fact is you're relying on your ears too much. FFR is imperfect, so adapt to it, or go play something that's more perfect. I play SM and ITG for the majority of my playing, and have gotten to the point where I get up to 99.51% on pad (9ft song), and 99.96% on keyboard (1 excellent, 11ft song). Also, using sightreading, I got 90% Greats on a 12ft song. I'm PURPOSELY hitting offbeat, to get a great, and see how many I can get. That's something that relying on your ears won't give you. Go play SM. __________________ They say there's a sun in the sky... Last edited by Goldenwind; 11-5-2009 at 10:05 PM..

11-5-2009, 10:37 PM	#35
OneHandNow Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,305	Re: @ You who told me to play SM to improve... Stomp pa in the nuts

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