TWG LXIV: MegaTWG: Endgame

[rzr]

Originally Posted by travman301

Revival will happen at the beginning of day 2...

I hope so this is an amazing game, like I told BDN, the best I've ever played. I'm trying to go to bed, but it's hard with my phone/TWG right next to my head

[Xception704]

p.s. I won't be online all of tomorrow ... school, then banquet, then lockout with my youth group until 7 AM Saturday.

[freakysnots]

I really don't think bynary should be lynched just because we don't want trav to be dead. There is absolutely no proof on bynary what so ever except for the fact that he might be a little slow at getting thunder's sarcasm.

[Bynary Fission]

I discussed it with a few others, and I've decided to come out as the seer. I guess I'll still be posting since there is a reason to.

[Makilaz]

Bit late for that now. Bandwagoning has already pretty much killed you.

[Bynary Fission]

Indeed. But maybe it'll make some people who voted for me without a reason to re-think it through.

[Kekeb]

Who did you seer first night then?

[Tokzic]

You guys are completely ignoring a post I made a very long time ago.

I'm not saying trav isn't a Spirit. It would be exceedingly dumb for him to say that thunderstrike would be revived on Night 2 if he wasn't actually able to do it, because then he'd obviously be lynched instantly.

What I'm saying is that there is a very real possibility that a non-human faction has a Spirit. This is a mystery game, remember? If vampires or god knows what else has a Spirit, we would be making a mistake to ignore the very very VERY ****ing suspicious way Trav's been acting. Furthermore, what if he knows the roles of his teammates and Thunderstrike's actually his ally? Do we really want to wait until he actually revives him to find out?

Here's what I propose: Trav, if you don't want to be lynched, pick someone besides Thunderstrike to revive. If you're a spirit, revive wolfings of our decision, not yours.

[Bynary Fission]

Originally Posted by Kekeb

Who did you seer first night then?

DarkManticoreX2, as a Vampire.

[Tokzic]

Also, as for Bynary coming out of the Seer closet, he's either actually the Seer, an UBIQUITOUSLY RETARDED human, or a different faction.

My money's on ubiquitously retarded human.

Bynary, if you're just saying that so you don't get lynched, speak up now. That or share your Seering, assuming it's in the humans' interest.

[Tokzic]

ninjaed

Also, why wouldn't you say that earlier.

This reeks of bull****.

[Bynary Fission]

Well, I didn't say it earlier because people would simply assume it was a desperate attempt to not get lynched. I wouldn't say it is, but then again the ramifications of me dying so early on the game could be severe later on.

Besides, I'm not stupid enough to lie about something like this. People know when you are lying; I seered Manti and gave his role, that is my proof that I'm not s*itting you.

[Tokzic]

Okay, hold the thoughts on Bynary until tomorrow, guys. Trav needs to die, now.

I talked to him on AIM about his choice for revival. I told him that if he proved his role, I'd not vote him anymore, and asked him if he'd revive someone besides Thunder. In short, his answer was "hell ****ing no". He was absolutely deadset on thunder and would not come anywhere near considering anyone else.

On top of anything else, I refuse to believe he's human anymore. His defense for his insane attachment on thunder was this - "how do I know you're not a faction who needs him dead?" Easy - because if I knew who he was, then he'd have to be on my side. If he was on my side, I would want him alive, not dead, you twit.

The other thing is this - what if it has to be Thunder that is revived Night 2 because the spirit role is ENTIRELY FABRICATED? What if Thunder's going to be revived no matter what? That's the only reason I can imagine he'd be so psycho about reviving Thunder. After all, for all we know, they're just three shmoes who are obviously targets of people who act at night, and probably against us.

I don't like the idea of thunder being revived. I don't like how much he's reading the thread like he's expecting it. And I'm betting there's something more than trav's letting on going on here.

For the love of God kill Trav unless he agrees to revive random dudes or dudes who are certified blues.

[Tokzic]

aim conversation for people who like reading aim conversations to inspect suspicious activity

RBennie362: hello tokzic
InfernoBlueFlame: hey look who it is
RBennie362:
RBennie362: you wanted to talk to me?
InfernoBlueFlame: Yeah.
RBennie362: also, i have a question for you
RBennie362: but you first
InfernoBlueFlame: What the **** was with you coming out in the topic as Spirit.
RBennie362: because i would have gotten bandwaggoned to hell if i didnt
InfernoBlueFlame: That makes absolutely no sense.
InfernoBlueFlame: Nobody was voting you before you came out as Spirit.
RBennie362: there were a lot of jTWG'ers that were going to
RBennie362: i didnt feel safe
InfernoBlueFlame: In fact, the first thing you did in the topic was come out as Spirit.
RBennie362: and i figured that if i waited until i was almost lynched to come out
RBennie362: it would look like i made it up
RBennie362: or something like taht
RBennie362: that*
InfernoBlueFlame: Don't you think making yourself a wolf target is a little more risky than people lynching you for no reason?
RBennie362: well i am counting on a guardian somewhere guarding me
RBennie362: there are probably multiple guardians
InfernoBlueFlame: There are obviously going to be lots of blue roles.
RBennie362: So i figured this would be the best option
InfernoBlueFlame: There was no reason for you to come out in the topic, especially seeing as the Guardian(s) have plenty of people to guard.
InfernoBlueFlame: Your role is one that should be done in private.
RBennie362: I agree, but I made bad tactical mistakes early on
RBennie362: put myself on the radar
RBennie362: it was stupid
RBennie362: ok, i have a question for toy now
InfernoBlueFlame: Shoot.
RBennie362: you*
RBennie362: wierd typo
RBennie362: did you talk to either manti or hoochan
InfernoBlueFlame: I have literally talked to no one this game lmao
InfernoBlueFlame: Why?
RBennie362: because then im sticking with thunder as my first revival
InfernoBlueFlame: Actually I was just about to ask you this.
InfernoBlueFlame: I just posted this, but I want a direct answer:
RBennie362: ?
InfernoBlueFlame: "Here's what I propose: Trav, if you don't want to be lynched, pick someone besides Thunderstrike to revive. If you're a spirit, revive wolfings of our decision, not yours."
RBennie362: I will definately confer with you guys
RBennie362: but for this one
InfernoBlueFlame: No.
InfernoBlueFlame: okay here's the rest of my post so you see my reasoning
RBennie362: it doesnt make sense for me to go for hooch or manti
InfernoBlueFlame: What I'm saying is that there is a very real possibility that a non-human faction has a Spirit. This is a mystery game, remember? If vampires or god knows what else has a Spirit, we would be making a mistake to ignore the very very VERY ****ing suspicious way Trav's been acting. Furthermore, what if he knows the roles of his teammates and Thunderstrike's actually his ally? Do we really want to wait until he actually revives him to find out?
RBennie362: i read that post
RBennie362: and if you really think about it
InfernoBlueFlame: Then why are you sticking with Thunderstrike.
RBennie362: if there was a spirit in any faction that were also masons
RBennie362: the role would be super over powered
RBennie362: the wolves or vampires wouldnt have it
RBennie362: its a broken role
InfernoBlueFlame: So why do you care about Thunderstrike then?
RBennie362: because i honestly dont believe he is wolf for one
InfernoBlueFlame: Revive hoochan, it shouldn't make a difference.
RBennie362: and I also think he could help me with my objective
InfernoBlueFlame: lmfao dude they were wolfings
RBennie362: what?
RBennie362: all 3?
InfernoBlueFlame: You have no insight on who any of them are, but you can know for sure that they are enemies of people who act at night.
InfernoBlueFlame: Or else they would not die.
RBennie362: oh you are saying that wolves wouldnt wolf a wolf
RBennie362: if that sentence makes sense...
InfernoBlueFlame: Thus, it should make absolutely no difference who you revive, and you shouldn't be so dead-set on Thunderstrike.
InfernoBlueFlame: Not necessarily wolfings.
InfernoBlueFlame: We have no ****ing clue, it's a mystery game.
InfernoBlueFlame: But I don't think a vigi's going to act night ****ing one, so I'm pretty sure they're people on our side.
InfernoBlueFlame: so again
RBennie362: I am looking out for my objective first and foremost
InfernoBlueFlame: revive, say, hoochan, and i will not lynch you
RBennie362: i need to lynch all of the wolves
InfernoBlueFlame: Or vote for you, I should say
RBennie362: and thunder can strengthen my alliance
InfernoBlueFlame: Why.
InfernoBlueFlame: You know nothing about him.
RBennie362: so says you
InfernoBlueFlame: Don't bull**** me.
InfernoBlueFlame: You're a ****ing spirit, or else you know someone who's a spirit.
InfernoBlueFlame: Don't pretend you know roles of the first night's deaths.
RBennie362: im not a seer if thats what you are implying
InfernoBlueFlame: I'm not implying anything.
RBennie362: i trust him
RBennie362: and when i am proven spirit
RBennie362: you guys should generally trust my judgements
InfernoBlueFlame: The fact that you are determined to revive him is proof to me that you're not looking out for humans.
RBennie362: i have no more proof that hoochan or manti are human
RBennie362: so its makes no difference
RBennie362: besides
InfernoBlueFlame: Exactly.
RBennie362: at this point
RBennie362: everyone is expecting me to rev thunder
InfernoBlueFlame: It makes no difference, so stop being so attached to Thunder.
InfernoBlueFlame: You're the one who brought up Thunder in the first place, it's your call.
InfernoBlueFlame: Unless this spirit role is fake.
InfernoBlueFlame: In fact.
InfernoBlueFlame: What if Thunder revives Night 2 no matter what?
InfernoBlueFlame: And you're not a spirit at all?
RBennie362: i know what you are pulling
RBennie362: but i get a rev everynight
RBennie362: theres a reason you dont want thunder alive
RBennie362: im not sure what it is
RBennie362: but you seem very opposed to it
InfernoBlueFlame: I don't want Thunder alive because you're completely ****ing attached to making him alive and no one else.
InfernoBlueFlame: If you were human, it wouldn't matter who you revived.
RBennie362: thats not true
RBennie362: if you were in my posistion
RBennie362: and thought one person leaned closer to human than wolf
RBennie362: when you spoke to them
RBennie362: and have no idea about the other people
InfernoBlueFlame: The fact that you want specifically Thunder and no one else is ludicrous, and combined with the way you're acting, you should be looking to stay alive as long as possible to revive as many humans as possible.
RBennie362: who would you choose?
InfernoBlueFlame: How about stay alive and revive as many humans instead of stay steadfast on some dude over two other dudes.
RBennie362: Listen I dont care if your faction is against his
RBennie362: or whatever else
RBennie362: im just going to do what my objective told me
RBennie362: and i will make the personal decisions to carry that out
InfernoBlueFlame: If your objective is to kill the wolves, then stop acting so ****ing sketchy.
InfernoBlueFlame: Stop acting like your decision of who to revive matters when it's just a Humans + 1 decision.
RBennie362: the only thing im doing is leaning towards thunder
RBennie362: thats it
InfernoBlueFlame: That's funny, you seem entirely opposed to reviving anyone else.
InfernoBlueFlame: Why would I want thunder to stay dead.
RBennie362: I have no idea
InfernoBlueFlame: If I knew who he was, he'd obviously be on my side, and thus I'd want him alive, not dead.
RBennie362: If there is another "spirit" obviously revive someone else, so it is clear. Hopefully travman is speaking the truth.
InfernoBlueFlame: I don't care which of the other two you revive. Pick one.
RBennie362: I dont want to deal with things like this
RBennie362: jTWG'ers use things like that to base votes off of
InfernoBlueFlame: give me a break
InfernoBlueFlame: This is a lot more suspicious than switching your choice.
RBennie362: thats your opinion
InfernoBlueFlame: Staying psychotically set on reviving thunder is a lot more suspicious than switching your choice to prove your power.
RBennie362: What faction do you even claim to be from?
RBennie362: Im just curious
InfernoBlueFlame: I'm human.
RBennie362: thats not what our group is called though
InfernoBlueFlame: oh whatever it is hold on let me check my pm
RBennie362: ok
InfernoBlueFlame: The Innocent Flock whatever.
RBennie362: well, if your objective is the exact same as mine
RBennie362: i just want a little benefit of the doubt
RBennie362: thats all im asking
InfernoBlueFlame: There is no benefit of the doubt in TWG, sweetie.
InfernoBlueFlame: Prove your role or go choke.
RBennie362: Will do day 2
InfernoBlueFlame: Reviving the guy you've wanted to revive all along isn't proving your role.
InfernoBlueFlame: Answering a curveball is proving your role.
RBennie362: then you can see it day 3, and 4
RBennie362: etc etc
InfernoBlueFlame: Not good enough.
InfernoBlueFlame: Doing my best to get you voted off, brb.
RBennie362: k
RBennie362: gl

[travman301]

No one are confirmed blues/greens at this point.

I didn't say ONE WORD to either manti or hooch.

Besides, you seemingly believe bynary so much. Bynary claims that he seered manti as a vampire seer. You stated earlier in the thread that the vampires need to kill the humans to win the game.

That's wierd because in our convo you said you didn't care who i revived as long as it wasn't thunder.

Now why would someone who is claiming to be on the side of the humans, and trusts bynary want to revive someone who wants to kill the humans???

Hmm, mabye there's something you aren't telling us about your ardent reasons against me rev'ing Thunder?

[Bynary Fission]

Originally Posted by travman301

Besides, you seemingly believe bynary so much. Bynary claims that he seered manti as a vampire seer. You stated earlier in the thread that the vampires need to kill the humans to win the game.

No, I said I seered him as a vampire, not a vampire seer. Quit lying to save your skin. You know that if I'm not knocked out you will be.

Originally Posted by travman301

Now why would someone who is claiming to be on the side of the humans, and trusts bynary want to revive someone who wants to kill the humans???

Vampires are neutral. They are not hostile towards humans.

[Xception704]

Originally Posted by travman301

No one are confirmed blues/greens at this point.

I didn't say ONE WORD to either manti or hooch.

Besides, you seemingly believe bynary so much. Bynary claims that he seered manti as a vampire seer. You stated earlier in the thread that the vampires need to kill the humans to win the game.

That's wierd because in our convo you said you didn't care who i revived as long as it wasn't thunder.

Now why would someone who is claiming to be on the side of the humans, and trusts bynary want to revive someone who wants to kill the humans???

Hmm, mabye there's something you aren't telling us about your ardent reasons against me rev'ing Thunder?

I didn't even see you guys talk about Bynary during that whole conversation.

You're very good at sidestepping Trav, but not good enough.

I agree completely with what Tokzic suggested.

Revive who the majority decides, not your own choice. Otherwise, reviving who you say you're going to revive doesn't prove your faction at all.

Bottom Line: Revive Hoochan or Manti.





Oh, also, why are you so wholeheartedly for reviving thunder? It seems suspicious to me that you're telling Tokzic that you think thunder's a human, but you completely refuse to share your conversations.

c&p your convo with thunder, and then your claim of believing thunder as human will have much more weight.

for now, I'm changing my vote because you're acting suspicious as hell, and I'm not sure I believe you're part of the Human Faction.

Trav.

[Xception704]

I've been having the understanding that the vampires' objective is just to simply stay alive. Which would explain the absurd amount of bandwagon votes.

[Xception704]

Bynary - 8/11 - Meno, argo, trav, pnt, dorama, heavy, atzuelo, Temote
Trav - 5/11 - Bynary, Tokzic, GamerShadow, Freaky, Xception704
Makilaz - 3/11 - Lifevirus, emerald, rzr
Isosceles - 2/11 - xplayfan, DrKirth
Freaky - 1/11 - Makilaz
Kirth - 1/11 - Kekeb
xplayfan - 1/11 - Isosceles
Gamershadow - 1/11 - RZR

[Xception704]

Also, the Spirit role would make the most sense on the side of the Vampires, would it not? Vampires sole objective is to stay alive.