TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

[cedolad]

nah I obviously can't defend myself when something gets thrown my way without making an ass of myself. I try to make smarter plays rather than just the usual throw shit into a thread and hope for the best, and I end up in a bigger hole. Not gonna stress myself trying to defend myself over my own stupidity. Have other things to worry about.

and fyi I did have a strategy.

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

if your first reaction is to list a bunch of bullshit

I didn't list any bullshit, I literally just pointed out how you must have read my posts previous seeing as you reiterated everything I said about cedolad and how you switched from cedolad to me incredibly fast and how that pace of events was an extremely quick turn and all followed in these oddly precise steps.

Tell me about ac1. Also how do you feel about greens claiming blue?

Greens should almost never claim blue unless it's late game and they are doing so to save a guardian or a vigilante (or something similar) to win the game. Otherwise you should lynch all liars.

At some point AC1 kept a vote on a target when there was someone else he found suspicious who already had 2 votes, which to me goes against the idea that the phase should also be cut short (his suggestion). I find it suspicious because when votes are spread thin wolves can do a pretty good job hiding, and since wolves know what we all think they can use the pressure from phase-end to pick someone, anyone to direct the lynch in their favor when push comes to shove.

It is so easy to call everyone suspicious and vote for them at this stage because you can just wait for the true bandwagon that will kill someone to happen and decide to either be pro or con, but to start a bandwagon takes courage from a human, and knowing you are starting a bandwagon on a human from a wolf (which is a tough position). It's why I call him into question for that act, let me find the post.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=227

He finds people he could legitimately start a bandwagon on (because they already have two votes) suspicious, but does not. He instead keeps his vote where it is at. Are those suspicions warranted? Does he really believe them? Why isn't he pushing harder for a lynch on the person he is currently voting? Why did he want the phase to end sooner if he wasn't going to change his behaviors? Those are the questions I have.

@fojar, can we replace James May?

[freakysnots]

V showed panic and surprise when cedo claimed a role. Voting ac1, then carefully responded to my post while not voting for me, then voting for me after seeing how bad it would look if he didn't.

This all seems genuine since if he was a wolf, cedo claiming a role would be expected behaviour, and he would not have reacted in such a way.

[AC1speakerbox]

You're right about the approach I've been taking. The reasoning behind it was more to see who would jump on the bandwagon though.

I'm not trying to keep the phase short either. The proposed deadline is still a long time from now. I just don't want to miss an opportunity to lynch.

[AC1speakerbox]

As of this second, I do believe yoman is red. I've just been trying to see who reacts on my suspicion flippantly.

[Crazyjayde]

Originally Posted by AC1

It tells others that you can be easily swayed by their opinions, which is obviously bad. Learn to stick to your guns, even if it looks weird.

Yo AC, out of curiosity, are you referencing me?

[AC1speakerbox]

For the record, I got such a reaction from Zoshi earlier in the game.

[AC1speakerbox]

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

Yo AC, out of curiosity, are you referencing me?

I don't remember who all has done it. You seem to be making earnest observations, and I'm just trying to solidify -- in this game with several inexperienced players -- people need to be careful who they trust. You are your greatest asset.

[Crazyjayde]

For the record, you said that just after I posted an extensive post including subjective perspective on others. With even some over-analyzed stances. Yeah, I'm totally taking it wrongly. Have you even read my post fully?

[Crazyjayde]

Didn't even realize you were not responding to me.

[AC1speakerbox]

For clarification, I WAS using yoman as bandwagon bait. Now, since his response on the other page, I'm starting to think he's guilty.

[AC1speakerbox]

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

Didn't even realize you were not responding to me.

Yeah, that post wasn't a reply to your analysis

[AC1speakerbox]

so now that the cat's out of the bag yoman

[freakysnots]

vic

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

V showed panic and surprise when cedo claimed a role. Voting ac1, then carefully responded to my post while not voting for me, then voting for me after seeing how bad it would look if he didn't.

This all seems genuine since if he was a wolf, cedo claiming a role would be expected behaviour, and he would not have reacted in such a way.

I voted you because your story didn't line up. I dont care how people view me, when I die and cardflip all my efforts will be validated. You said I voted for cedolad with no reasoning when I clearly stated my issues for pages. They were so clear, in fact, that cedolad remorse fully accepted their weight and value as a part of his role reveal, openly admitting to his bad play.

What I couldn't see was the reasoning behind your post in which you tried to use that, and random stuff from last game to string me up. You are calling it some sort of prodding vote, but you told flat out lies (or you have a learning disability) in order to "prod" me after having pretty much point-by-point agreeing with me merely posts before.

Wouldn't you vote for that? What other sorts of things should I be looking for?

[freakysnots]

I see nothing you have posted about cedolad that warrants a lynch other than saying he was fishy for throwing a safety and now he voted for jayde to satisfy your request. He responded to that post, and you made no acknowledgement of it.

[freakysnots]

Fishy for throwing a safety. That is some utter bullshit.

[cedolad]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

I see nothing you have posted about cedolad that warrants a lynch other than saying he was fishy for throwing a safety and now he voted for jayde to satisfy your request. He responded to that post, and you made no acknowledgement of it.

Because I claimed a role lol

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Will attempt to re-read and make a contribution at some point today. I have Quarter close work that's been beating me up most of the week. That needs to be finished first.

Manti

You're better than this. I know you typically enjoy waiting until late-game to really take an active role, but you've really made it a point to nail that idea into our collective subconscious. I'm keeping this on you at least until you make your next post.

Also because of your vote on vicc:

This is a personal vote, not necessarily a wolf vote. You were saved from wolf consideration last game because you were a mason with TPS, not because of anything you did as a player.

that shit is weak son.

[Tps222]

Freaky is one of the most annoying posters i've ever had to read.

I don't mean that personally, I'm sure you aren't an annoying person. but god damn are your posts irritating. I don't know how many times people have to shoot down your second vote pool idea before you just accept it, and worry about the first lynch target.