jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by sanzath

If you're town, it's in town's best interest to share most or all of your thoughts. We can look at them and figure out how genuine they seem.

Glad we can finally agree on the one thing that put the nail in the coffin on my vote for you last game.

[dragonmegaXX]

Originally Posted by sanzath

here's my take

You're also participating in the game, and you also want people to read you as town and not lynch you, regardless of your actual alignment.

The fact is, wolves have too much information in this game, they already know exactly who's town and who's wolf. So they don't usually get genuine "towny" thoughts during a game, they have to fake these thoughts. That's a lot of effort, so wolves tend to prefer hiding thoughts, or not posting at all. Because giving information to town is what makes wolves lose.

If you're town, it's in town's best interest to share most or all of your thoughts. We can look at them and figure out how genuine they seem. This is especially true in the later phases of the game, once we have mechanical information, we can look back at thoughts and votes in the earlier phases and see what looks like a wolf who has too much information vs what looks like a town who doesn't have enough information.

You know what, true enough. My true thoughts are at this point, as a newbie, I dont know anyones playstyle, or what to interpret from everyones posts. All I see is either shitposting, or people trying to offer advice. Im at this point just wanting to survive the first night so I can actually analyze something against all the posts.

[sanzath]

speaking of metas, H&H where's your calling for instas???

[gold stinger]

sigh

dragonmegaxx

[gold stinger]

quality waifur at the peak of relevance right now is raphtalia. Let me get some images.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

quality waifur at the peak of relevance right now is raphtalia. Let me get some images.

Yeah that's an even better idea, let's like post waifus and have dragon rate 'em

[Hateandhatred]

Dragon what about the gadget hawkwrench sect do you approve of it?

*Note: the wolf shirt isn't alignment indicative.*

[dragonmegaXX]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Dragon what about the gadget hawkwrench sect do you approve of it?

*Note: the wolf shirt isn't alignment indicative.*

Hard pass, a 2/10

[MarioNintendo]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Dragon what about the gadget hawkwrench sect do you approve of it?

*Note: the wolf shirt isn't alignment indicative.*

WHAT THE FUCK LOL

[dragonmegaXX]

Hoo boy I need to learn to stop being on the internet at certain times

[gold stinger]

[dragonmegaXX]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

A solid 8/10. Would definitely invite to bed for cuddles, would probably lewd.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by dragonmegaXX

A solid 8/10. Would definitely invite to bed for cuddles, would probably lewd.

[gold stinger]

who's gadget hawkwrench

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by dragonmegaXX

You know what, true enough. My true thoughts are at this point, as a newbie, I dont know anyones playstyle, or what to interpret from everyones posts. All I see is either shitposting, or people trying to offer advice. Im at this point just wanting to survive the first night so I can actually analyze something against all the posts.

Let me break down reasons why I have my vote on you now.

Originally Posted by dragonmegaXX

Not really? I've skimmed through all posts in this thread, and am trying to understand the game a little better. For now though it just seem's like I was targeted for being AFK for a day, and then there was an immediate vote followed just based off the fact that I hadn't said anything.
To be honest at this point, I feel like any lynch is a random lynch, and I don't really have a proper way to defending myself besides maybe posting THE BEST MEMES. If I get lynched now, I feel it as a learning experience and will probably laugh a bit when my role is revealed, and hope what I have said leads to a bit of something fun to watch from the sidelines. Ill probably vote for someone who has 1 vote right now in a bit just to maybe hope for a random lynching instead of just letting myself die, and revoke/change it if my situation changes.

Very straightforward talking in a game that is based on deception and lying.
Do I win yet

I got first suspicion from this post because usually from the experiences I've had with others, is that generally, in all situations, having a KitB situation is very bad for town. Not only does it thin out the votes across 2 people so that if a wolf or two have a reason to swap votes, it can manipulate the lynch for town to a mislynch, but if a wolf is receiving pressure, they can roll dice to get out of their respective lynch. It makes me slightly uneasy that mellon was quick to town-lean from this post, but there was zero follow-up on it. I'm assuming that maybe mellon's perspective is coming from one that acknowledges that it's a new player, and they may lack game experience that would be crucial to knowing stuff like this, but it's worth pointing out.

Originally Posted by dragonmegaXX

I feel like personal thoughts of what I assume people are thinking/going for d0 are probably just better kept to myself, and after n1 I can actually start analyzing and being open with my thoughts.

I also think Im being too open with what Im thinking during this phase and not shit posting enough whoops. Also just being an over obnoxious furry but HEY

This is straight up restricting town knowledge. If the vote lands on you or you die or something and you decided to withhold that information, then it becomes lost knowledge, and town will play the game forever without that knowledge. AKA, it doesn't help town. So, if you're town and you aren't really there to help town solve the game, then it's kind of just a dead weight vote. This is what ended up confirming my vote on Sanzath in the previous game that we were talking about, because I was attempting to ask him questions about where his wolf reads would be if I flipped town (as most votes were on me and votes were starting to pile on Sanzath), and he refused to answer those because he was pretty darn sure I was a wolf, and that a wolf shouldn't have privileges to those answers for their own agenda.

[dragonmegaXX]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Let me break down reasons why I have my vote on you now.



I got first suspicion from this post because usually from the experiences I've had with others, is that generally, in all situations, having a KitB situation is very bad for town. Not only does it thin out the votes across 2 people so that if a wolf or two have a reason to swap votes, it can manipulate the lynch for town to a mislynch, but if a wolf is receiving pressure, they can roll dice to get out of their respective lynch. It makes me slightly uneasy that mellon was quick to town-lean from this post, but there was zero follow-up on it. I'm assuming that maybe mellon's perspective is coming from one that acknowledges that it's a new player, and they may lack game experience that would be crucial to knowing stuff like this, but it's worth pointing out.



This is straight up restricting town knowledge. If the vote lands on you or you die or something and you decided to withhold that information, then it becomes lost knowledge, and town will play the game forever without that knowledge. AKA, it doesn't help town. So, if you're town and you aren't really there to help town solve the game, then it's kind of just a dead weight vote. This is what ended up confirming my vote on Sanzath in the previous game that we were talking about, because I was attempting to ask him questions about where his wolf reads would be if I flipped town (as most votes were on me and votes were starting to pile on Sanzath), and he refused to answer those because he was pretty darn sure I was a wolf, and that a wolf shouldn't have privileges to those answers for their own agenda.

I actually understand your last point. To be honest, my previous opinion was that d0 had no real information to give, and everyone’s just playing around and it would be a random lynch either way. I can actually see at this point how people could actually give out some decent information, especially if they know the game and the other players.

[dragonmegaXX]

I feel like it’s hard to defend myself saying what I want to say without it sounding very wildly lol. If I die I die, and I can have a good laugh afterwards.

[MarioNintendo]

Originally Posted by dragonmegaXX

I feel like it’s hard to defend myself saying what I want to say without it sounding very wildly lol. If I die I die, and I can have a good laugh afterwards.

Are you playing hard to get, right now??

[dragonmegaXX]

Wolfy* thanks phone

[dragonmegaXX]

I don’t know if that’s the proper way to remove a vote, just going off what Mario did before whoops.