4 Keys At a Time

TK_Bakonfat69 · 10-13-2006, 08:49 AM

This question is mostly about StepMania, but also about my keyboard, well I actually I don't know, that is why I am asking this.

K, ITG on SM. It is cool. But whenever I need to hit 3 or 4 at a time, I can't. I use the arrow keys (NOT the NUMpad). Only 2 arrows are hit. I switched the controls to use 2 4 6 8 on the NUMpad, and I can hit 4 at a time that way, but I am not used to that. Is this problem because of my keyboard, or my computer? Also, how can I fix it?

I played SM at my friends' house (yah, multiple) and their keyboards all let me do 3 or 4 at a time. So that's odd.

Tibs · 10-13-2006, 08:54 AM

It's your keyboard. Get a better one.

TK_Bakonfat69 · 10-13-2006, 09:04 AM

I also tried another keyboard on it (wireless) it had the same problem. So do you think I just got unlucky two times in a row? If so, what is a good keyboard that will let me do 3 and 4 arrows at a time? I don't want to buy a new one and have it do the same as the others =/.

**Moogy** · 10-13-2006, 11:28 AM

use qwop

Tibs · 10-13-2006, 11:30 AM

MicroSoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A

Dragula219 · 10-13-2006, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK_Bakonfat69

I also tried another keyboard on it (wireless) it had the same problem. So do you think I just got unlucky two times in a row? If so, what is a good keyboard that will let me do 3 and 4 arrows at a time? I don't want to buy a new one and have it do the same as the others =/.

Yeah, unfortunately you did. A lot of keyboards can't register more than 3 Arrow keys. You really should switch to spread anyway (it is about 100 times better than any other setup once you get used to it), but if you absolutely can't then buy a keyboard that says it registers 3 arrows at a time (Like a gaming keyboard of something.)

One day you are gonna have to switch to spread anyway, might as well start now.

rise_of_apocalypse · 10-13-2006, 11:35 AM

use 2 hands lol if you dont already

Tibs · 10-13-2006, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragula219

One day you are gonna have to switch to spread anyway, might as well start now.

I shall never conform. >:{

MCRenaissance · 10-13-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by -Tibs-

I shall never conform. >:{

We shall never do so.

TK_Bakonfat69 · 10-13-2006, 01:06 PM

I play with two hands on the arrows (index). What exactly is spread? Is that with the two arrow keys and two numpad ones? Like, where you use left hand on the left and down arrows and right hand on 8 and 6? If so, I hate that one. If that's not what spread is, someone lied to me. My scores suck so much when I do that. Sometimes I even cry.

**FishFishRevolution** · 10-13-2006, 01:16 PM

Do you have a Mac?

GuidoHunter · 10-13-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK_Bakonfat69

I play with two hands on the arrows (index). What exactly is spread? Is that with the two arrow keys and two numpad ones? Like, where you use left hand on the left and down arrows and right hand on 8 and 6? If so, I hate that one. If that's not what spread is, someone lied to me. My scores suck so much when I do that. Sometimes I even cry.

Two hands does not necessarily mean index. Two hands usually means four fingers, while index means you just use your index fingers for all four keys.

Spread is just what Moogy said: qwop or any other configuration where you have two fingers of one hand on adjacent keys and two fingers of your other hand on two other adjacent keys. fghj would also work. Typically, I think, all the keys are on the same row, though.

As for your keyboard: go Microsoft. I have this badass one that's everything I could ever want in a keyboard, but it was discontinued a while back, so I had to buy a display one. It registers four keys at once, so I presume most of their other ones do, too.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

TK_Bakonfat69 · 10-13-2006, 01:20 PM

Yah. But I don't play on that. Macs r for ur workz. I think. Well, it is an older one (G4). I play on my good computer (not good, but better).

Dragula219 · 10-13-2006, 01:22 PM

You don't have to play spread in a line either. My setup is:

; = Left
/ = Down
8 = Up
6 = Right

Just experiment and find a set-up that feels right to you.

**FishFishRevolution** · 10-13-2006, 01:22 PM

I know standard Mac keyboards won't do 4 arrows at once, and only certain combos of 3's.

**Cenright** · 10-13-2006, 01:42 PM

Heck I am on a Microsoft Natural. Using the Arrow Key Cluster. It maps all 4 keys, and is interesting for my play style.

MCRenaissance · 10-13-2006, 02:23 PM

Don't the index fingers clash with each other like that Cen?

**Cenright** · 10-13-2006, 02:52 PM

Actually, it fits to my hand pretty well. It is just another thing to get used to for those that try to play this way, but no, if done right, you dont have the clash. Certain keyboards, I have to pop out the enter key to play, because in gets in the way of the right palm. I have the keyboard tilted so my hands are equally facing inward, and actually becomes pretty comfortable, as if you hands were folded in you lap.

It also has its mental advantages, because people like to create certain paterns, that spread people have trouble with, that become easy to me. Because I am working on seperate hands, when they are working on the same hand. Then again, I have my own blind spots.

If you could easily swap between my Cross-Hand, and the Traditional Spread, you could actually have an advantage over all.

Bakonfat · 10-14-2006, 03:39 PM

So, is there a way to map keys in FFR? I am probably guessing it is a no. But I will ask anyways. BTW, I have decided to go back to my old account. This one is better because it has no TK.

Tibs · 10-14-2006, 03:45 PM

www.google.com

search for AutoHotKey

10-13-2006, 08:49 AM	#1
TK_Bakonfat69 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany / Gilroy, California Posts: 42	4 Keys At a Time This question is mostly about StepMania, but also about my keyboard, well I actually I don't know, that is why I am asking this. K, ITG on SM. It is cool. But whenever I need to hit 3 or 4 at a time, I can't. I use the arrow keys (NOT the NUMpad). Only 2 arrows are hit. I switched the controls to use 2 4 6 8 on the NUMpad, and I can hit 4 at a time that way, but I am not used to that. Is this problem because of my keyboard, or my computer? Also, how can I fix it? I played SM at my friends' house (yah, multiple) and their keyboards all let me do 3 or 4 at a time. So that's odd. __________________

10-13-2006, 08:54 AM	#2
Tibs FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Age: 37 Posts: 5,235	Re: 4 Keys At a Time It's your keyboard. Get a better one. __________________ Metal covers of vidya game songs

10-13-2006, 09:04 AM	#3
TK_Bakonfat69 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany / Gilroy, California Posts: 42	Re: 4 Keys At a Time I also tried another keyboard on it (wireless) it had the same problem. So do you think I just got unlucky two times in a row? If so, what is a good keyboard that will let me do 3 and 4 arrows at a time? I don't want to buy a new one and have it do the same as the others =/. __________________

10-13-2006, 11:28 AM	#4
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	Re: 4 Keys At a Time use qwop __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

10-13-2006, 11:30 AM	#5
Tibs FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Age: 37 Posts: 5,235	Re: 4 Keys At a Time MicroSoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A __________________ Metal covers of vidya game songs

10-13-2006, 11:35 AM	#7
rise_of_apocalypse FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 13	Re: 4 Keys At a Time use 2 hands lol if you dont already

10-13-2006, 01:06 PM	#10
TK_Bakonfat69 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany / Gilroy, California Posts: 42	Re: 4 Keys At a Time I play with two hands on the arrows (index). What exactly is spread? Is that with the two arrow keys and two numpad ones? Like, where you use left hand on the left and down arrows and right hand on 8 and 6? If so, I hate that one. If that's not what spread is, someone lied to me. My scores suck so much when I do that. Sometimes I even cry. __________________

10-13-2006, 01:16 PM	#11
FishFishRevolution GotR Creator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vi sitter här i venten Current Band: The National Age: 38 Posts: 7,251	Re: 4 Keys At a Time Do you have a Mac? __________________

10-13-2006, 01:20 PM	#13
TK_Bakonfat69 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany / Gilroy, California Posts: 42	Re: 4 Keys At a Time Yah. But I don't play on that. Macs r for ur workz. I think. Well, it is an older one (G4). I play on my good computer (not good, but better). __________________

10-13-2006, 01:22 PM	#14
Dragula219 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Much sexier than Hayden Panettiere Age: 36 Posts: 629	Re: 4 Keys At a Time You don't have to play spread in a line either. My setup is: ; = Left / = Down 8 = Up 6 = Right Just experiment and find a set-up that feels right to you. __________________ Violent Skank is Violent!

10-13-2006, 01:22 PM	#15
FishFishRevolution GotR Creator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vi sitter här i venten Current Band: The National Age: 38 Posts: 7,251	Re: 4 Keys At a Time I know standard Mac keyboards won't do 4 arrows at once, and only certain combos of 3's. __________________

10-13-2006, 01:42 PM	#16
Cenright You thought I was a GUY?! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaumont (A town with 25 times fewer people than this site) Age: 38 Posts: 3,139	Re: 4 Keys At a Time Heck I am on a Microsoft Natural. Using the Arrow Key Cluster. It maps all 4 keys, and is interesting for my play style. __________________ http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

10-13-2006, 02:23 PM	#17
MCRenaissance FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,646	Re: 4 Keys At a Time Don't the index fingers clash with each other like that Cen? __________________

10-13-2006, 02:52 PM	#18
Cenright You thought I was a GUY?! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaumont (A town with 25 times fewer people than this site) Age: 38 Posts: 3,139	Re: 4 Keys At a Time Actually, it fits to my hand pretty well. It is just another thing to get used to for those that try to play this way, but no, if done right, you dont have the clash. Certain keyboards, I have to pop out the enter key to play, because in gets in the way of the right palm. I have the keyboard tilted so my hands are equally facing inward, and actually becomes pretty comfortable, as if you hands were folded in you lap. It also has its mental advantages, because people like to create certain paterns, that spread people have trouble with, that become easy to me. Because I am working on seperate hands, when they are working on the same hand. Then again, I have my own blind spots. If you could easily swap between my Cross-Hand, and the Traditional Spread, you could actually have an advantage over all. __________________ http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

10-14-2006, 03:39 PM	#19
Bakonfat FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gilroy, California Age: 35 Posts: 62	Re: 4 Keys At a Time So, is there a way to map keys in FFR? I am probably guessing it is a no. But I will ask anyways. BTW, I have decided to go back to my old account. This one is better because it has no TK.

10-14-2006, 03:45 PM	#20
Tibs FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Age: 37 Posts: 5,235	Re: 4 Keys At a Time www.google.com search for AutoHotKey __________________ Metal covers of vidya game songs

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