1 hand play

irn00b · 08-5-2006, 05:30 AM

I'm learning 1 hand and I was wondering how the *--

--* do you do rolls or staircases with 1 hand?

Thx in advance.

xjohnieboyx · 08-5-2006, 07:29 AM

Well that's precisely why 1 handed play is difficult. There's no "way" to do them... Just do them. Slowly you'll adapt and be able to do them.

Kevin_18 · 08-5-2006, 07:32 AM

Take my advice, don't learn 1 hand style....unless you only play FFR.
But if you want to play Stepmania, i'd definitely learn Spread style over 1 handed easily.

i_like_ham · 08-5-2006, 07:34 AM

what do the terms "rolls" and "staircases" mean??

xjohnieboyx · 08-5-2006, 07:38 AM

read the stickies.

Kevin_18 · 08-5-2006, 07:46 AM

stair cases are like this:

as for rolls:
all they are is a hold but you have to keep moving to get it to count. ending in a "Yeah" means you got it.

**Dronak** · 08-5-2006, 12:42 PM

I'm not a very good player, so you might want to see if better 1-handed players offer some advice. But for me, I handle the right-up-down-left combination in a roll or staircase by sliding my middle finger from the up arrow key to the down arrow key. That's assuming it's fast enough that I can't easily hit the arrow keys separately in my usual fashion. Granted, this probably isn't the best way to do it (same for how I get up/down doubles with one finger), but it usually works for me. I suspect it will fail, or at least not work as well, on harder and faster songs, but for what I usually play, this is often enough to get me through this pattern.

As for the opposite pattern, left-down-up-right, this gives me trouble. At slower speeds, I can handle it. But I can't slide my finger upwards from the down arrow key to the up arrow key, so at higher speeds I'm kind of stuck. I just end up missing them and only getting 3 of 4 arrows if I'm lucky. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions on how to hit this pattern one-handed.

P.S. -- Isn't a roll either right-up-down-left repeated or left-down-up-right repeated?

T0rajir0u · 08-5-2006, 01:09 PM

roll is also a specific itg term

FluorescentArmy · 08-5-2006, 08:04 PM

Staircases come with practice.
Rolls come with more.
Yes I play one handed.
I will beat you Cj.

FluorescentArmy · 08-5-2006, 08:05 PM

Staircases come with practice.
Rolls come with more.
Yes I play one handed.
I will beat you Cj.

Yesssss · 08-5-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronak

I'm not a very good player, so you might want to see if better 1-handed players offer some advice. But for me, I handle the right-up-down-left combination in a roll or staircase by sliding my middle finger from the up arrow key to the down arrow key. That's assuming it's fast enough that I can't easily hit the arrow keys separately in my usual fashion. Granted, this probably isn't the best way to do it (same for how I get up/down doubles with one finger), but it usually works for me.

If you can't hit the keys that fast normally then it is the best way to do it. I usually need to do it on 240bpm+ streams, but for someone who's slower it probably will be better to do that at slower speeds.
I also do this on other patterns whenever I need to. Patterns like 62862686268626862.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronak

As for the opposite pattern, left-down-up-right, this gives me trouble. At slower speeds, I can handle it. But I can't slide my finger upwards from the down arrow key to the up arrow key, so at higher speeds I'm kind of stuck. I just end up missing them and only getting 3 of 4 arrows if I'm lucky. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions on how to hit this pattern one-handed.

If it's fast, treat it as a 42 and 68 double. If it's too fast to do that, then mash 28 with one finger. It takes practice and speed to do it well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronak

P.S. -- Isn't a roll either right-up-down-left repeated or left-down-up-right repeated?

I think it's any 4 arrow pattern that repeats itself.

sjoecool1991 · 08-5-2006, 10:08 PM

If you play for a while on SM, you can become really good at one hand. There arer some godlike one handers.

**Dronak** · 08-5-2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yesssss

If you can't hit the keys that fast normally then it is the best way to do it. . . .
I also do this on other patterns whenever I need to. Patterns like 62862686268626862.

I think that's the first time I've gotten some form of confirmation that sliding from up to down is OK/good.

I understand that the better you are, the faster the song will have to be before you need to do it. I probably need to do it on slower songs than you do. I think that if I get a pattern with just three arrows, I try to get three fingers in on it. I know I've used the index for down/2 before for dense patterns on the right side, but I'm not sure I've used the ring finger for up/8 with dense left side patterns very much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yesssss

If it's fast, treat it as a 42 and 68 double. If it's too fast to do that, then mash 28 with one finger. It takes practice and speed to do it well.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try to remember the 42 and 68 double idea. I can try the 28 mash as a sort of backup plan. Mashing does seem to work sometimes. I think my recent 370 (out of 372) combo on 8-Bit Day Dreamer was a result of a lucky mash in the heavy stream part(s). I'm honestly surprised that I actually hit all of the arrows in that section, even if it was mashed. (I think a tempo change or something at the end caused the 1 miss I got on that play.) Normally, I do try to hit arrows and don't intentionally think "I'm going to mash this now", even if that's basically what I end up doing in order to keep stay alive.

Garbanian · 08-5-2006, 11:46 PM

im a one hand player, those rolls and staircases arent THAT diffucult, just takes a few weeks of playing, like, play an hour or two a day, and gradually learn

irn00b · 08-6-2006, 05:46 AM

Ok, thanks. I play spread pretty well and wanted to learn 1hand because I saw "Yesssssss" vid of drinking a root beer while passing MSWGO. I thought it was hawt ;D

stratos200 · 08-6-2006, 11:08 AM

im a vet 1 hander, but i play one handed wierd and most people say its slow but...

i use my index for down and left and middle just for top and ring for right... Staircases are a breeze and i only have touble with right-up trills because of weakness in my ring and middle

The only time my middle ever leaves the up button is to do down-left trills...

FluorescentArmy · 08-6-2006, 01:52 PM

I play different than stratos.

Middle: Down and Up
Index: Left
Ring: Right

Pinkey finger feels weird. I even hate using it to type with my right hand.

i_like_ham · 08-6-2006, 05:34 PM

staricases arent that hard, it is just pattern and remember the pattern and once you read it make sure it is on beat and then simply do the pattern.

whathuh05 · 08-7-2006, 07:26 PM

Dronak, I think we are complete opposite one handers.

You have a better PA than me (I can't AAA Mario for the life of me)
You suck at LDUR (I suck at RUDL)
You've been here 2 years (I've been here .5)
You're overall 5k (I'm overall 1.5k)

Have you tried screen shrinking so you can only see the bottom of the "READY"? That gives you a bit more time to see jumps and jacks (haha), but still lets you seem to do rolls/staircases/stream better.

EvilBunnies · 08-7-2006, 07:40 PM

One hand play is easy. Start from easy songs if you're good go on and on and on and on. Get the point bud?

08-5-2006, 05:30 AM	#1
irn00b FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 146	1 hand play I'm learning 1 hand and I was wondering how the ---- do you do rolls or staircases with 1 hand? Thx in advance.

08-5-2006, 07:29 AM	#2
xjohnieboyx FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: negev Age: 34 Posts: 1,630	Re: 1 hand play Well that's precisely why 1 handed play is difficult. There's no "way" to do them... Just do them. Slowly you'll adapt and be able to do them.

08-5-2006, 07:32 AM	#3
Kevin_18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lincoln, NE Age: 37 Posts: 680	Re: 1 hand play Take my advice, don't learn 1 hand style....unless you only play FFR. But if you want to play Stepmania, i'd definitely learn Spread style over 1 handed easily.

08-5-2006, 07:34 AM	#4
i_like_ham FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: i don't know Age: 33 Posts: 80	Re: 1 hand play what do the terms "rolls" and "staircases" mean?? __________________ i have no cool quote from anyone else...

08-5-2006, 07:38 AM	#5
xjohnieboyx FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: negev Age: 34 Posts: 1,630	Re: 1 hand play read the stickies.

08-5-2006, 07:46 AM	#6
Kevin_18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lincoln, NE Age: 37 Posts: 680	Re: 1 hand play stair cases are like this: as for rolls: all they are is a hold but you have to keep moving to get it to count. ending in a "Yeah" means you got it.

08-5-2006, 12:42 PM	#7
Dronak FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 601	Re: 1 hand play I'm not a very good player, so you might want to see if better 1-handed players offer some advice. But for me, I handle the right-up-down-left combination in a roll or staircase by sliding my middle finger from the up arrow key to the down arrow key. That's assuming it's fast enough that I can't easily hit the arrow keys separately in my usual fashion. Granted, this probably isn't the best way to do it (same for how I get up/down doubles with one finger), but it usually works for me. I suspect it will fail, or at least not work as well, on harder and faster songs, but for what I usually play, this is often enough to get me through this pattern. As for the opposite pattern, left-down-up-right, this gives me trouble. At slower speeds, I can handle it. But I can't slide my finger upwards from the down arrow key to the up arrow key, so at higher speeds I'm kind of stuck. I just end up missing them and only getting 3 of 4 arrows if I'm lucky. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions on how to hit this pattern one-handed. P.S. -- Isn't a roll either right-up-down-left repeated or left-down-up-right repeated? __________________ Essentially retired now, but still ranked on the list of FFR's Top One Handers. One-Hander Skill Tokens unlocked: The V2 Token, The Patience Token, X_X1MissX_X, AAA v5, T.H.E.G.A.M.E.T.O.K.E.N Pseudo Skill Tokens unlocked: Numbers 21, 44, 33, 57, 26, 24, 47, 95

08-5-2006, 01:09 PM	#8
T0rajir0u FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: awsome Posts: 2,946	Re: 1 hand play roll is also a specific itg term __________________ hehe

08-5-2006, 08:04 PM	#9
FluorescentArmy Forum User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gattrobe, Pistolvania Age: 32 Posts: 1,754	Re: 1 hand play Staircases come with practice. Rolls come with more. Yes I play one handed. I will beat you Cj. __________________

08-5-2006, 08:05 PM	#10
FluorescentArmy Forum User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gattrobe, Pistolvania Age: 32 Posts: 1,754	Re: 1 hand play Staircases come with practice. Rolls come with more. Yes I play one handed. I will beat you Cj. __________________

08-5-2006, 10:08 PM	#12
sjoecool1991 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,302	Re: 1 hand play If you play for a while on SM, you can become really good at one hand. There arer some godlike one handers.

08-5-2006, 11:46 PM	#14
Garbanian FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 88	Re: 1 hand play im a one hand player, those rolls and staircases arent THAT diffucult, just takes a few weeks of playing, like, play an hour or two a day, and gradually learn

08-6-2006, 05:46 AM	#15
irn00b FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 146	Re: 1 hand play Ok, thanks. I play spread pretty well and wanted to learn 1hand because I saw "Yesssssss" vid of drinking a root beer while passing MSWGO. I thought it was hawt ;D

08-6-2006, 11:08 AM	#16
stratos200 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 76	Re: 1 hand play im a vet 1 hander, but i play one handed wierd and most people say its slow but... i use my index for down and left and middle just for top and ring for right... Staircases are a breeze and i only have touble with right-up trills because of weakness in my ring and middle The only time my middle ever leaves the up button is to do down-left trills... __________________ You shut up when you're talking to me.

08-6-2006, 01:52 PM	#17
FluorescentArmy Forum User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gattrobe, Pistolvania Age: 32 Posts: 1,754	Re: 1 hand play I play different than stratos. Middle: Down and Up Index: Left Ring: Right Pinkey finger feels weird. I even hate using it to type with my right hand. __________________

08-6-2006, 05:34 PM	#18
i_like_ham FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: i don't know Age: 33 Posts: 80	Re: 1 hand play staricases arent that hard, it is just pattern and remember the pattern and once you read it make sure it is on beat and then simply do the pattern. __________________ i have no cool quote from anyone else...

08-7-2006, 07:26 PM	#19
whathuh05 FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 8	Re: 1 hand play Dronak, I think we are complete opposite one handers. You have a better PA than me (I can't AAA Mario for the life of me) You suck at LDUR (I suck at RUDL) You've been here 2 years (I've been here .5) You're overall 5k (I'm overall 1.5k) Have you tried screen shrinking so you can only see the bottom of the "READY"? That gives you a bit more time to see jumps and jacks (haha), but still lets you seem to do rolls/staircases/stream better.

08-7-2006, 07:40 PM	#20
EvilBunnies FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: :D Age: 31 Posts: 88	Re: 1 hand play One hand play is easy. Start from easy songs if you're good go on and on and on and on. Get the point bud? __________________ Ta-da! The edit button! Isn't that a smart idea???

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