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Old 11-26-2003, 01:02 PM   #21
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At least that's how it works with game ROMs
No, no it's not. It's completely illegal to download ROM images, regardless of whether or not you own the original game. The "24 hour rule" is a bunch of bullshit. The only way you can legally own a ROM image is if you have dumped it yourself.

Sorry, I had to correct that glaring bit of misinformation.
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Old 11-26-2003, 01:07 PM   #22
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Old 11-26-2003, 01:12 PM   #23
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At least that's how it works with game ROMs
No, no it's not. It's completely illegal to download ROM images, regardless of whether or not you own the original game. The "24 hour rule" is a bunch of bullshit. The only way you can legally own a ROM image is if you have dumped it yourself.

Sorry, I had to correct that glaring bit of misinformation.
heh sorry about that, i guess i should know better than to believe a ROM site (that has been in existence for a long time so the guy that runs it obviously knows what he's doing) when i read that 24 hour thing. Ah well, i think i'll just hide in the corner now before i make myself look even more dumb. :X
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Old 11-26-2003, 02:38 PM   #24
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I was sitting in my keyboarding class the other day and my teacher gave the grade 11's (there's some 10's in our class too) an assignment to do on a song. We have to analyze it. When we found out that we needed the artists actual CD we all started complaining because we all just use Kazaa. Sheesh, I have to actually buy a CD or borrow one from a friend just to do this project.

(Mind you there has to be at least 3 songs on the cd that have at least 1/3 of the song done by piano.)
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Old 11-26-2003, 05:59 PM   #25
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They sue you for 10000 dollers (for example).

The artists get as much money as if u downloaded it (0 dollers)
Sueing people is bullcrap and they should quit.
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Old 11-26-2003, 06:02 PM   #26
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ya.....if we dont buy cd's from...ohhh.... britney spears...for example.... she will not be able to afford an SX5 Jet....she will have to get an SX4 Jet.....that one doesn't have remote for the surround sound DVD system...... poor britney...THAT is why we MUST buy cd's from artists...........................................

dude.... thats from south park.
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Old 11-26-2003, 06:09 PM   #27
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Squarebear seems to have a pretty strong take on this.

The thing I hate about the RIAA, is they are just defending the big music producers.

Mainstream.

MTV trash.

They absolutely don't care about ANYTHING in the electronic genre at all (EXCEPT MAYBE PAUL OAKENFOLD AND DJ SAMMY AND PAUL VAN DYKE OMG MG OMG OMG OMG`1!111!!!11), and they especially don't care about the underground scenes(i.e. anything not on mtv). You can pirate any underground music you want but HO HO HO download a Britney Spears song and now they're MEGA-RIAA, WITH LASER BEAM TURRETS STATIONED ON THEIR SHOULDERS TO SPIT OUT LAWSUITS LIKE NO TOMORROW
And we all know anything played on MTV absolutley sucks, so what's to worry about? MY friends dowloaded 120 gigs (27,000 songs) off kazaa, but he turns his file sharing off and only d/ls good music. Nothings ever happened to him. Even if you are an idiot and aren't safe about things, theres still a what.... 1/1,000,000 chance you're going to get caught?
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Old 11-26-2003, 06:25 PM   #28
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Turning off your share option does nothing.

The RIAA has put out Mp3's onto KaZaA, you try to download it, and they get your iP.
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Old 11-26-2003, 06:26 PM   #29
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I have read at some RIAA webpage that they sue people with an "excessive" amount of download songs. So if you have anything less than, lets say, 10 gigs downloaded the RIAA are not going to be going after you. I believe the term "bigger fish to fry" applies.
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Old 11-26-2003, 07:18 PM   #30
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It should be alright to download and listen to music for personal use. To burn CD's and sell them to a friend is not alright.
Making money off of other people's (artistic) work=not okay
Enjoying other people's (artistic) work=fine
The music industry itself is just a whore. They use singers and bands as their pawns to make money. It is stupid that the artist doesn't make the most money from their work. On top of that, their work costs a ridiculous amount. Also the way the RIAA do things is not legit, so they are full of crap.
Then there's the band singers who are out for fame and fortune. Those are the real bastards of music.
I should hire a sniper to pick off those greedy music whores.
"Hey, we found another 12 year old girl with nursery rhymes on her computer. Let's go over to her house and su-*snipe*"
That'd make my day.
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Old 11-26-2003, 07:22 PM   #31
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As a citizen of the United States I think it is outrageous how someone making millions of dollars a year more than I, can pursue this issue with such audacity. In fact I think they are being quite ignorant; they plan to give out thousands of subpuenas, yet there are millions of people downloading music. The only people who are caught are the users who don't know how to protect themselves. Think about how long piracy in movies and gaming categories has been amply pursued by authorities, yet they never seem to be able to put and end to these "illegal acts" as they call them.
Users who use file sharing programs basically enter a community where no one person is committing crime. Like J-walking, who really walks half a block to use a street light anymore? The music industry has become a band of oligopolies(combinations of companies working together to control a market) they have become increasing greedy and as the denominations of the past challenged our freedom, people throughtout the world should question the ideas the music industry just as they once did. Law is not sacred, its is anything but that and should be considered profane(unlike our beliefs the law is questionable).
I feel sorry for the people who are being sued that don't really understand their situation. The music industry is now using their coercion as a scare tactic to discourage people from downloading; the music industry doesn't understand that... no one person can learn a lesson until the lesson becomes part of their lives.
The music industry can challenge what I say here but it will be based on how they wish to further their economic gains. They can't pretend they don't make money; consumers who buy CD's will buy CD's and the people without money or the willingness to give up 20 dollars(what an insane amount of money for a piece of plastic! What happened to 10 cent records, which were larger pieces of plastic?)will continue to borrow CD's and copy them for themselves. Obviously, the internet makes this alot easier. Music Industry Vs. The People, who will win? We will see who has more power in the upcoming months, the corporations or the common man. (I guess we will have to rely on the justice system, which has always peeked through the blind fold and tipped its scales measuring power instead of right and wrong.)

I especially liked it when JAN JARBOE RUSSELL said (about the 12 year old briana and her single parent mother) who was sued-
"The RIAA might know music, but it's completely tone-deaf when it comes to effectively changing the behavior of 12-year-olds -- in other words, the primary market of musicians everywhere."

"The only two lessons that Brianna could have possibly learned from illegally downloading at least 1,000 songs from the Internet -- including "If You're Happy and You Know It, Clap Your Hands" -- is that no one in the music industry is very happy these days and that the RIAA has the public-relations skills of a schoolyard bully."

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you are an idiot

the title got me in that train of thought, then you posted a whole damn essay on this shit

i'm too lazy to read it all

so go to hell
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:46 PM   #32
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you are an idiot

the title got me in that train of thought, then you posted a whole damn essay on this (#$%

i'm too lazy to read it all

so go to hell
Normally Yanah, I agree with you, but you totally contradict yourself. If you're the one who's too lazy to read it all, his 'essay' as you put it, then you're more idiotic than he is.

Also, he's completely right.
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