No Way in Hell FF8 was better!! - Page 2

dave · 01-23-2003, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omicron

I believe this is the order of greatness of rpgs!!!

1. Xenogears
2. ChronoCross
3. Chronotrigger
4. FF7
5. FF6
6. FF8
7. Breath of FIre 3
8. Breath of Fire 1
9. Golden SUn
10. FF9

U Forgot The Zelda games they were good as well

Sithicus · 01-29-2003, 01:42 PM

Omicron: While Xenogears may have a great storyline, the storyline isn't everything, either. If you have a game that's nothing -but- storyline, then you don't have game...you have a movie.

Final Fantasy 6 is considered the best RPG ever created, by more people than any other RPG. Of course, you'll all prolly tire of me saying that.

But it's true, more people think FF6 is the best than any other RPG out there.

As for the Zelda games...those were action/adventure, not roleplaying. They do, however, still rank as some of the best games ever, as well. Mwahahah.

And ironically enough, anyone here want to know what the single best game -ever- created (ever) of -any- genre, or any console is?

That honor goes to Tetris. This was actual an official vote cast a few years ago by game critics, and they all agreed that Tetris is the best game ever. Think about it. There isn't a gamer -alive- that hasn't played Tetris. And the sweet thing about it is...no matter how much you hate Tetris, if you start playing, you're hooked for hours.

Now, about FF8...while a great game, and had a REALLY innovative system (I loved being able to fully customize my characters with the Junction system!), it very quickly got too easy, once you learned the loopholes. The game was absolutely no challenge. I mean come -on-, my characters were level 20 or so with well over 3000 HP, because I found out that one Tent can be turned into 10 Curagas with Siren's heal refinement ability. Buy 30 tents, get 3 GFs with HP-J, and junction 100 Curagas to each member's HP. It's bloody ridiculous.

Even without those loopholes, battles are always the same. You abuse the snot out of your GFs. Without summoning GFs, you're basically toast. Battles end up very repetitive, and have very little strategy to them. It ends up going from, 'if I can win this fight..' to 'how fast can I win this fight?'. When your whole battle strategy revolves around how fast you can tap the button while your GF's being summoned...it loses from its RPG element.

Enough said. Square made a great game, but they could have done a LOT better.

Oh...and you haven't -played- an RPG until you've played Nethack. If any of you do not know what Nethack is....I will pray for your souls.

dave · 02-26-2003, 07:57 AM

I Hate the story line of FF8 it sucks ass. Come on, Spiro was better then that shit

NessTormented · 02-26-2003, 07:07 PM

Oh no...arch0wl has returned...ok we are need Synth for this.

**Freak83** · 02-26-2003, 07:19 PM

If Arch0wl is really back he should stay. Arch0wl is the best.

NessTormented · 02-27-2003, 09:49 AM

You aren't understand. Arch0wl is BAD for the forums.

cody · 04-8-2003, 07:38 AM

yes ArchOwl is bad for the forums but even if we kicked him out he would find a way to get in

1. final fantasy 7
2. final fantasy tactics
3. kingdom hearts
4. vandal hearts
5. dungeons and dragons

you have to go very old school though when they did not have all these fancy books and junk. back when it was true pen and paper

P.S. FF8 was the worst rpg i ever played exept for DnD eye of the3 beholder for the gameboy advance

QreepyBORIS · 04-8-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omicron

I believe this is the order of greatness of rpgs!!!

1. Xenogears
2. ChronoCross
3. Chronotrigger
4. FF7
5. FF6
6. FF8
7. Breath of FIre 3
8. Breath of Fire 1
9. Golden SUn
10. FF9

Something like that.

dave · 04-10-2003, 10:31 AM

SOA is also a great rpg that was on dreamcast

chibiko · 04-11-2003, 07:07 PM

I agree with most of you, FF8 was not the greatest game...The storyline was too not fantasy, if I can put it that way. Like in FFVII your group were the only ones fighting to save the Earth or Gaia or Terra or whatever...but itn FFVIII there was a whole bunch of people so basically had it not been a game, if Squall's party was destroyed, there would be someone else to save it. Also, in FFVII there was more to do with the surroundings, you get a non-human character RedXII, and the option of two secret characters, plus the chocobo breeding is great. I personally didn't like FFVIII at all. Now FFIX was pretty good, I liked the storyline, but the chocographs really pissed me off because I couldn't do it. FFX was a great game, I still haven't beaten it yet

Yunalesca killed me so many times that I gave up for awhile...But it is still kind of like a movie, what with the voices and all of the realistic FMV's and everything.

I think it would be a great idea of square did make movies based off of the games. When FF the spirit within or whatever was realeased I got excited and thought that they might be doing a prequel to the series or that they were doing one of the games, but alas I was wrong, and the movie wasn't that great. But still, I think square should make movies based on the games, it would be awesome...I hope..

**Hyrogashi** · 04-12-2003, 11:22 AM

Blah, i dont care anymore, too much debate! Bottom line, the best and most OG rpg's of all time are obviously Earthbound and Chrono trigger, anything else can drink my nut through a straw

**nestlekwik** · 04-12-2003, 11:44 AM

Basically I only played a lot of NES and SNES RPGs. I just don't have time anymore to get into an expansive RPG. I think the last RPG I played thouroughly was Legend of Dragoon. I bought Chrono Cross for $5 a little while ago and I haven't even unwrapped it yet.

kn8blade28 · 01-19-2007, 10:25 PM

me myself like mostly all rpg games as long as they have a good story line

mead1 · 01-20-2007, 09:45 AM

Nice bump.

**andy-o24** · 01-20-2007, 09:56 AM

why would you post about 3 years after the last post? It makes no sense. This thread was dead a long time ago.

**stretchypanda** · 01-20-2007, 10:43 AM

02-26-2003, 07:57 AM	#23
dave FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 245	I Hate the story line of FF8 it sucks ass. Come on, Spiro was better then that shit __________________ The Dawn Of A New Day Has Come And My Reign Of Terror Continues!!!!!

02-26-2003, 07:07 PM	#24
NessTormented FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Orb or a home that can nature nurture Age: 35 Posts: 273	Oh no...arch0wl has returned...ok we are need Synth for this. __________________

02-27-2003, 09:49 AM	#26
NessTormented FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Orb or a home that can nature nurture Age: 35 Posts: 273	You aren't understand. Arch0wl is BAD for the forums. __________________

04-8-2003, 07:38 AM	#27
cody FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 11	yes ArchOwl is bad for the forums but even if we kicked him out he would find a way to get in 1. final fantasy 7 2. final fantasy tactics 3. kingdom hearts 4. vandal hearts 5. dungeons and dragons you have to go very old school though when they did not have all these fancy books and junk. back when it was true pen and paper P.S. FF8 was the worst rpg i ever played exept for DnD eye of the3 beholder for the gameboy advance __________________ pumpki man will rule again and the soldiers of the world will cower before me in a inferno of hate and suffering

04-10-2003, 10:31 AM	#29
dave FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 245	SOA is also a great rpg that was on dreamcast __________________ The Dawn Of A New Day Has Come And My Reign Of Terror Continues!!!!!

01-29-2003, 01:42 PM	#22
Sithicus FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	Omicron: While Xenogears may have a great storyline, the storyline isn't everything, either. If you have a game that's nothing -but- storyline, then you don't have game...you have a movie. Final Fantasy 6 is considered the best RPG ever created, by more people than any other RPG. Of course, you'll all prolly tire of me saying that. But it's true, more people think FF6 is the best than any other RPG out there. As for the Zelda games...those were action/adventure, not roleplaying. They do, however, still rank as some of the best games ever, as well. Mwahahah. And ironically enough, anyone here want to know what the single best game -ever- created (ever) of -any- genre, or any console is? That honor goes to Tetris. This was actual an official vote cast a few years ago by game critics, and they all agreed that Tetris is the best game ever. Think about it. There isn't a gamer -alive- that hasn't played Tetris. And the sweet thing about it is...no matter how much you hate Tetris, if you start playing, you're hooked for hours. Now, about FF8...while a great game, and had a REALLY innovative system (I loved being able to fully customize my characters with the Junction system!), it very quickly got too easy, once you learned the loopholes. The game was absolutely no challenge. I mean come -on-, my characters were level 20 or so with well over 3000 HP, because I found out that one Tent can be turned into 10 Curagas with Siren's heal refinement ability. Buy 30 tents, get 3 GFs with HP-J, and junction 100 Curagas to each member's HP. It's bloody ridiculous. Even without those loopholes, battles are always the same. You abuse the snot out of your GFs. Without summoning GFs, you're basically toast. Battles end up very repetitive, and have very little strategy to them. It ends up going from, 'if I can win this fight..' to 'how fast can I win this fight?'. When your whole battle strategy revolves around how fast you can tap the button while your GF's being summoned...it loses from its RPG element. Enough said. Square made a great game, but they could have done a LOT better. Oh...and you haven't -played- an RPG until you've played Nethack. If any of you do not know what Nethack is....I will pray for your souls.

02-26-2003, 07:19 PM	#25
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	If Arch0wl is really back he should stay. Arch0wl is the best.

04-11-2003, 07:07 PM	#30
chibiko FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2	I agree with most of you, FF8 was not the greatest game...The storyline was too not fantasy, if I can put it that way. Like in FFVII your group were the only ones fighting to save the Earth or Gaia or Terra or whatever...but itn FFVIII there was a whole bunch of people so basically had it not been a game, if Squall's party was destroyed, there would be someone else to save it. Also, in FFVII there was more to do with the surroundings, you get a non-human character RedXII, and the option of two secret characters, plus the chocobo breeding is great. I personally didn't like FFVIII at all. Now FFIX was pretty good, I liked the storyline, but the chocographs really pissed me off because I couldn't do it. FFX was a great game, I still haven't beaten it yet Yunalesca killed me so many times that I gave up for awhile...But it is still kind of like a movie, what with the voices and all of the realistic FMV's and everything. I think it would be a great idea of square did make movies based off of the games. When FF the spirit within or whatever was realeased I got excited and thought that they might be doing a prequel to the series or that they were doing one of the games, but alas I was wrong, and the movie wasn't that great. But still, I think square should make movies based on the games, it would be awesome...I hope..

04-12-2003, 11:22 AM	#31
Hyrogashi FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Netherealm Posts: 961	dggfd Blah, i dont care anymore, too much debate! Bottom line, the best and most OG rpg's of all time are obviously Earthbound and Chrono trigger, anything else can drink my nut through a straw

04-12-2003, 11:44 AM	#32
nestlekwik Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nestlekwikland, Ohio Age: 42 Posts: 2,317	Basically I only played a lot of NES and SNES RPGs. I just don't have time anymore to get into an expansive RPG. I think the last RPG I played thouroughly was Legend of Dragoon. I bought Chrono Cross for $5 a little while ago and I haven't even unwrapped it yet.

01-19-2007, 10:25 PM	#33
kn8blade28 FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 59	Re: No Way in Hell FF8 was better!! me myself like mostly all rpg games as long as they have a good story line __________________ *kn8*blade28 You wana E-mail me about anything Email me at Here is my runescape website only if i had the time to do it all my self

01-20-2007, 09:45 AM	#34
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