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lots of speculation why 420 came to be.. some say its the police code for marijuana possesion or use, some say that some guys in california used to toke up every afternoon at 4:20... no one really knows.
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Whatever the reason, here is an interesting article I found about it:
The History of 420 Among stoner circles, there is nothing more known than the symbol of 420. It is confirmed by High Times mag that the term originated with the Waldos in San Rafael, who used it in high school as an extremely similar code. The term could mean anything that had to do with Cannabis. Other myths about the term include the widely spread rumor that it represents the police code for smoking weed in any number of cities, that the Grateful Dead played everyday at 4:30 PM (meaning the crowd would meet up at 4:20 to "prepare"), and that a wide variety of great rock stars were born or died on the date (although it is the birthday of Luther Vandross). This is not the only chapter in stoner culture when categrizing by topic. It is, however, the only true historical practice that s tied directly to the culture and promotes activity within the culture. All the red-eyes know a thing or two about rolling, shotguns, resin scraping, dropping a piece, ritualistic eating, etc. None of that stuff is serious; there isn't a wide-spread ritualstic tie. For some reason, the 420 slang made it big. A couple of dopey stoned kids making jokes saw one of the stupid things the say make it into the vocabulary of everyone like them. It could just have easily been you or me with a group of kids, burning spliffs and choing down twinkies. These kids just happened to come up with the right slogan, it happened to reach the right people, who were making the right flyer for the rigt band... and the Waldos escalated their term to minor greatness. The schizophrenic nature of the creation of the term can only be described as "stoned". It doesn't make any sense that this one inside joke thrown around a high school ever became something special. That being said, there isn't anything wrong with it. It might make more sense for the counter cultural group that celebrates 420 to have holidays based on actual events as well. Whether this is true or not it is interesting. |
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I was in 5th grade and a wanna-be goth *** who said he listened to bands that he had never actually heard before. This lasted up until early 6th grade, when I started actually getting enough money to buy CDs and realized that most of the music I "listened" to was total crap. Anyways... |
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This whole thread is so retarded. All it is is a flame war between people who like and dislike weed.
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420 isn't the code for a suspect caught with marijuana. I don't know what it is, but it isn't that. Look it up if you want to be sure, cause I sure am hell aren't going to.
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To all of you retards who think that weed is detrimental to your health:
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6812 THC is neuroprotective; smoking weed literally protects your brain cells. THC increases prolifity of newborn neurons; smoking weed literally stimulates brain cell growth. THC relaxes people; smoking weed CRUSHES depression and anxiety. THC does't cause cancer, and smoking weed is actually used (medical marijuana) to slow or halt the propgression of malignant cancers. THC does not make you slow or stupid. You're slow while you're high, that's it. Absolutely no tests on long-term weed smokers have shown any noticable long-term effects. gj jacking off to propaganda, cockfaces |
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Of course smoking is only one option to use it, but it is the most common way.
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weed literally protects brain cells from being killed by increased ethanol levels, not in general, if I read their summary of the science correctly.
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gj jacking off to the first source of completely biased piece of data using tiny test groups.
I won't deny the fact that it has some uses. However you're making it sound like it's some holy grail. It's not healthy for you. If you think it's a teriffic thing for you, you're already suffering the consequences XD. Of course you want to try and come up with articles and tests like this to support your cause; any excuse to keep smoking it. However, real scientific studies on animals and larger test groups don't support these findings. I wonder why? I mean like, honestly. You're presenting us an article from the organization that wants to reform marijuana laws. That's like going on a christian website looking for the answers to the universe. Do I care if someones smoking it? Not really, but keep it away from me. And of course you're going to get judged if you smoke it. It's a class thing.
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Reach, that's not my only source by any means, I simply linked there because it's relevant and very strongly fits my argument. If you want some unbiased info which will bring about the same conclusion, go to erowid.org
Once again, for all you straightedge morons who believe the forcefed bullshit they hear in health class: www.erowid.org ALSO Quote:
Marijuana is healthy for you. SMOKING marijuana is not healthy for you. As Afrobean said, and as I should have said, smoking it is NOT the only way to use it. I'm saving up for a vaporizer. Using a vaporizer or taking it orally yields no negative health effects. --- random note: It should also be said that cannibis should be legal for many other reasons, such as depletion of natural resources. One of the main reasons that cannibis was first illegalized was because the bigwigs in the lumber industry wanted it that way. It hurt the lumber industry because cannibis is extremely easy to grow and extremely good for fabric etc. Most paper back then was hemp. The Unitied States Constitution is printed on weed. ps the other main reason it was originally made illegal was primitive ignorant fear like you straightedge kids Last edited by TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons; 04-21-2006 at 09:11 PM.. |
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You're right, hemp isn't weed, but they're both from the same plant. I was just saying that as, you know... huh, what's the word I'm looking for? Ahh, whatever, it'll come to me. I'm on a bunch of percoset.
ps you're only sxe because you have some delusions, and it's sad because you're actually a pretty smart dude |
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Smoking marijuana is stupid, as are your arguments for it.
1.) "Well marijuana is just as bad as drinking, gambling, etc." Yeah, it is. And you know what? Drinking, gambling, etc. to excess is stupid. Theres a difference, though. I can drink a beer and be fine. I can play a game of poker and walk away. I take a hit and i'm blazed, unless you have ****ty weed. 2.) "Marijuana is good for you." Give me a break. I haven't seen one credible source that supports that claim. On the contrary... have a field day with this The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana use indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term use of other major drugs of abuse. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system(6) and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine(7). Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse. Effects on the Heart One study has indicated that a user’s risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana(8). The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana’s effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood. Effects on the Lungs A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers(9). Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses. Even infrequent use can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough. Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency to obstructed airways(10). Smoking marijuana increases the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck, and the more marijuana smoked the greater the increase(11). A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that marijuana smoking doubled or tripled the risk of these cancers. Marijuana use also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens(12, 13). In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke(14). It also produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells(15). Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs’ exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may increase the risk of cancer more than smoking tobacco. Other Health Effects Some of marijuana’s adverse health effects may occur because THC impairs the immune system’s ability to fight off infectious diseases and cancer. In laboratory experiments that exposed animal and human cells to THC or other marijuana ingredients, the normal disease-preventing reactions of many of the key types of immune cells were inhibited(16). In other studies, mice exposed to THC or related substances were more likely than unexposed mice to develop bacterial infections and tumors(17, 18). Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior Depression(19), anxiety(20), and personality disturbances(21) have been associated with marijuana use. Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person’s existing problems worse. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off(22, 23). Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their non-smoking peers(24, 25, 26, 27). A study of 129 college students found that, for heavy users of marijuana (those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the preceding 30 days), critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired even after they had not used the drug for at least 24 hours(28). The heavy marijuana users in the study had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had used marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time. More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana users to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks(29). Thus, it is possible that some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use. Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. A study of municipal workers found that those who used marijuana on or off the job reported more “withdrawal behaviors”—such as leaving work without permission, daydreaming, spending work time on personal matters, and shirking tasks—that adversely affect productivity and morale(30). In another study, marijuana users reported that use of the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health(31). Effects on Pregnancy Research has shown that babies born to women who used marijuana during their pregnancies display altered responses to visual stimuli, increased tremulousness, and a high-pitched cry, which may indicate neurological problems in development(32). During infancy and preschool years, marijuana-exposed children have been observed to have more behavioral problems than unexposed children and poorer performance on tasks of visual perception, language comprehension, sustained attention, and memory(33, 34). In school, these children are more likely to exhibit deficits in decision-making skills, memory, and the ability to remain attentive(35, 36, 37). Addictive Potential Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they use the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop using the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety(38). They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug(39). Genetic Vulnerability Scientists have found that whether an individual has positive or negative sensations after smoking marijuana can be influenced by heredity. A 1997 study demonstrated that identical male twins were more likely than non-identical male twins to report similar responses to marijuana use, indicating a genetic basis for their response to the drug(40). (Identical twins share all of their genes.) It also was discovered that the twins’ shared or family environment before age 18 had no detectable influence on their response to marijuana. Certain environmental factors, however, such as the availability of marijuana, expectations about how the drug would affect them, the influence of friends and social contacts, and other factors that differentiate experiences of identical twins were found to have an important effect." Source: http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html Credible government source.
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Smoking marijuana in excess isn't too great for you, no. When did I say THAT was good?
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That doesn't promote smoking it in excess. "excess" implies smoking more than is reasonable. I never said anything about that.
ps .gov = not reliable. When I speak of propaganda, most of it comes from the government. Not to mention that the government mostly cites research from decades ago (I wonder why?) |
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sert: .gov pretty much throws that out the window. Government sites will always be against it because it's illegal.
Rai: If health class encouraged me to smoke marijuana, and it was legal, and it was actually more unhealthy to go without smoking marijuana than it would be to smoke it, I would not because I simply do not like lack of control over my state of mind. I hate getting drunk, and I even avoid having caffiene. I've found that no matter what I say though, I can't be credible to people who support it. If you say you don't like it without having tried it, you are told that you can't say you don't like it without trying it. If you have done it and say you don't like it, you are told you had bad weed. If you have done it, it was from a good dealer, and you still don't like it, then you are told had a bad trip. You simply can't win. Extra note: rofl i thought sxe meant "sexy" not "straight edge"
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