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Old 12-2-2005, 08:13 PM   #30
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Default Re: RE: Re: RE: Are Allah and Yahweh the same God?

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Don't make friends with unbelievers except to guard yourself from them" -- while I doubt this is the actual Qu'ran quote, I recall something similar from my readings. It means don't let anyone lure you away from your religion...which won't happen if you truly believe in it. It does not mean "pretend to be their friends."
Yeah that wasn't the best verse to choose to make the my point.Qur'an 9:5''fight and kill the disbelievers where ever you find them,harass them,lie in wait and ambush them USING EVERY STRATAGEM OF WAR.''
The definition for stratagem is ''A military manuever designed to deceive or suprise an enemy''so i would be cautious when taking the word of a dedicated muslim.Oh and that was a quote from the Qur'an.

"Look it up rather than take the world of a Muslim because they could be lying to you just to strengthen themselves against you" -- I have no idea why a Muslim who is trying to explain his/her religion would lie about it. It wouldn't strengthen them; it would lower them in their God's eyes. If anything, they should be trying to convert me, and that requires truth about their religious practices.
To advance the cause of Allah of course they would lie to you.If they told you the truth of Allah and his Prophet you would never accept Islam.

So just read it for yourself, it won't take long for you to see how well...how screwed up the Qu'ran, Allah, Mohammad really are." -- This is really...if not racist, then completely religion-ist. Is there a word for that? According to you, Islam is "screwed up." According to them, other religions are wrong, not "screwed up." I can't see what you're saying as anything but a hateful comment made with a biased, xenophobic outlook.Ok read these verses, perhaps you'll see what I mean TaboriIX:113 ''Allah permits you to shut them(your wives)in a separate room and to beat them,but not severely.If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing.treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they posses nothing themselves.Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an.''TabariIX:13''My mother came to me while i was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down.My nurse wiped my face with some water and started leading me.When i was at the door she stopped so i could catch my breath.I was then brought in while the messenger was sitting on the bed in our house.My mother made me sit om his lap.Then the men and women got up and left.The prophet consummated his marriage with me im my house I was nine years old.''TaboriIX:137''Allah granted Rayhanah of the[jewish]Qurayza to his messenger as booty[but only after she had been forced to watch him decapitate her father and brother,seen her mother be hauled off to be raped,and her sister sold into slavery].''

Wow. I cannot express how wrong you are here, not to mention that you contradict yourself--are good Muslims peaceful, or rapist/terrorists/thieves? In any case, most Muslims are NOT ANY ONE OF THOSE. Mohammad was neither a rapist nor a terrorist nor a thief. He had a wife that he was faithful to (and later, more wives, but that was legal in those days) and a family he was loyal to. He was not a terrorist--he was a prophet and a businessman. He was not a thief--I don't even know where you got this from. And "Allah hates peaceful Muslims"? WTF. Seriously. The 5 Pillars of Islam say NOTHING about killing people or being non-peaceful. They are the very BASIS of Islam, and they refer only to belief, prayer, charity, a journey to Mecca, and fasting during Ramadan. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say you shouldn't be peaceful, and nowhere in the Qu'ran is terrorism MENTIONED, much less accepted or allowed or asked for.[/color]Yeah sorry i was kinda rushing.I meant good muslims are are terrorist etc.Most muslims aren't terrorist etc and they wouldn't remain muslims if they knew how violent Islam is.Mohammed was a pedophile TaboriIX:128''When the prophet married Aisha she was very young and not yet ready for consummation.''And Bukhari:v9b87n139-40''Allah's Apotle told Aisha ,'you were shown to me in a dream[a.k.a sexual fantasies].I beheld a man or angel carring you in a silken cloth.He said to me,'She is yours, so uncover her.'And behold, it was you.I would then say to my self,'if this is from Allah,then it must happen.''And Allah does hate muslim hypocrites Qur'an 9:68''Allah has promised the hypocrites, both man and women, and the disbelievers the fire of hell for their abode:Therein shall they dwell.It will suffice them.On them is the curse of allah,and an enduring punishment,a lasting torment.''
I don't know where you got the impression that I was racist considering I said nothing racist...but whatever.However I do hate religion.
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