TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[Hateandhatred]

Gonna look into this harder but posting so everyone has it on hand since it could be useful

#post voter: voted - context

#115 sunfan: dbp - more of a meme vote, prompting him to "be townie"
#172 zenith: sunfan - definitely a meme vote
#208 sunfan: bugkid - seems unserious, but notes bugkid lacks audacity, potentially implying that their game is different from usual. Interestingly, the two people in their micro reads list were ben and raeko, pinning them both as town. In #209, there could be some foreshadowing with "please do not let this post age badly ", especially if sunfan is wolf, could be a weird flex explaining the NK
#211 freezin: ben - "cotton candy empty posts", which I agreed with at the time of this post
#241 freezin: unvote - No real context seemingly provided, so freezin, could you elaborate?
#242 haku: dbp - demanding pressure
#243 star: zenith - in response to a trend Zenith brought up. Star replied, verbatim: "I am pinged by this interaction because I think this is something that you could have held onto longer to watch for basically - we were less than halfway through d0 at that point. Which, makes me worry that the motivation for posting this now is to look good. "
#266 raeko: xel - interestingly following xel saying he'd like to see ben or raeko flip, which again are the two towns dead by d1, and this is coming from a known town now
#328 star: bugkid - Due to the reads early in the game on her and sunfan, considering too much information given. interestingly contradicts sunfan's context in #208
#342 ben: bugkid - frankly not sure how to interpret ben's reasoning for voting bugkid, no reason was given in the post, and ben says "still don't like that post from star", which I'm assuming is #328, so I think ben was basically agreeing with star there. haku had a similar confusion in #349, and doesn't look like ben ever clarified this. not that this matters too much, ben is proven town
#359 dbp: sunfan - specifically listed ben, sunfan and star as the wolf trio. Never elaborated, seems to be meme since he said later on "ok let me actually catch up
#368 ben: star - seems like a rhetorical vote flip in reference to being questioned on #342
#373 sunfan: star - followed bugkid (wanted to vote star in eod, as a sidenote)
#400 bugkid: star - didn't want to accidentally insta in a 15 players game with 2 votes on star, whatever, then adds that ben wasn't wolf (which we know to be true now)
#419 dbp: ben - seems like a meme vote in context (crazy at this stage of d0 but oh well)
#424 shado: freezin - mentions a wolf trio being freezin, raeko and zenith/sunfan. The other context provided in that post seems important to me, as it's a bit more strategy than reads: "I'm never voting star, backpack, or haku this phase, and by extension I'm following backpack's read on bug and not voting bug either. benguino and botchi and hateandhatred I know very little about and are pretty solidly null in my head despite a decent amount of AI content from benguin". A lot of regurgitating of previous points too, especially the "AI ben content" thing referring to #211, which was ironically from freezin
#479 sunfan: botchi - says that vibes with botchi are off and referencing a previous game. Surprised that he was followed into votes on star
#483 xel: ben - self admitted, non convinced vote parking
#525 raeko: star - would have preferred xel but felt nobody would follow her. Star failed her vibes check
#526 freezin: ben - contrarian vote
#559 sunfan: dbp - expresses not knowing who to vote and eliminates xel, bugkid, ben and star, says no one cares about a botchi vote, then lands on dbp
#563 shado: unvote - feels like freezin was being much more genuine in #557
#573 shado: ben - no context given (7 minutes to EOD)
#584 sunfan: botchi - was basically dared to do it to express confidence
#589 ben: botchi - follows sunfan, wants to live
#591 freezin: botchi - also follows sunfan
#593 hate: ben - wants to hit a target that would reveal more from interactions into d1
#603 sunfan: ben - begrudgingly votes ben while believing they are town

[DaBackpack]

this is surprisingly useful, thanks

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

That's not the point, I just wonder if anyone else finds the idea of two wolves going back and forth alone in the thread like it's some literal staged play to be weird at all. I would totally do that if I was wolfing, but I don't know about other players doing it. If people think it's a bit weird, I'll look into it more

I've only rolled wolf once in my entire life and it was last game. And well, no, I pretended my partner didn't exist in my own head

I don't think that's something that ever happens, especially not in this game.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

I am being a bit glib in that post, not sure if that is why you are reacting so strongly to it.

Despite the fact that I have quite a few town reads I currently feel good about, I have been struggling with feeling left with a lot of people that I don't have enough on.

The people I already liked most before the end of the day, kind of reinforced that during the end of the day by being relatively engaged with vote options outside of Ben and me, which looked to me like active solving.

It would basically not surprise me in terms of how the day end played out, for there to be a relatively inactive wolf voting for Ben for "info" as a preferred vote off option over me. It feels like a safe spot for a wolf to be in. So it is a sentiment that you and Xel deserved increased scrutiny.

It's just that as wolves, xel and I are in the "ballsy wolves" bucket 100% of the time. It's something I'd expect you to assume given the number of games you've played on here. It's like if I said "I assume star would be a low effort poster" when that's just not true in any game ever. I wasn't even scumreading you for it, I was just baffled

[DaBackpack]

my vote on Ben was not a meme vote

[Hateandhatred]

also my pride was a little hurt too tbh

[the sun fan]

sven you can't expect me to engage with that

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

my vote on Ben was not a meme vote

well I mean, you can elaborate, in fact I'd love it if you did, that's kind of the point of posting the list, let's talk about it

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

sven you can't expect me to engage with that

please tell me why not
I worked hard and the website went down and I thought I lost everything

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

It's just that as wolves, xel and I are in the "ballsy wolves" bucket 100% of the time. It's something I'd expect you to assume given the number of games you've played on here. It's like if I said "I assume star would be a low effort poster" when that's just not true in any game ever. I wasn't even scumreading you for it, I was just baffled

without commenting on you, I have found xel to not particularly be a ballsy wolf through my history with him

I think you were ballsy with leetic in that one game, but idk how fruitful it'll be to talk about it

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

please tell me why not
I worked hard and the website went down and I thought I lost everything

you

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[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

without commenting on you, I have found xel to not particularly be a ballsy wolf through my history with him

I think you were ballsy with leetic in that one game, but idk how fruitful it'll be to talk about it

I found that he was pretty enthusiastic into that game we co-hosted. I don't think he's a background wolf as wolf

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

well I mean, you can elaborate, in fact I'd love it if you did, that's kind of the point of posting the list, let's talk about it

I thought I explained it pretty well in the following posts, but it felt like he was playing maximally safely and keeping his options open so as to not accidentally trap himself by overcommitting to a specific read or vote

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

you

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Can't edit. I'll repost it if you hate it that much

[the sun fan]

xel's post was alreayd hard enough

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Can't edit. I'll repost it if you hate it that much

it doesn't really matter
do tell me what you get from it, though
I've been (patiently) waiting for something from you today that has yet to be delivered

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

without commenting on you, I have found xel to not particularly be a ballsy wolf through my history with him

I think you were ballsy with leetic in that one game, but idk how fruitful it'll be to talk about it

Pi, pika?

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

it doesn't really matter
do tell me what you get from it, though
I've been (patiently) waiting for something from you today that has yet to be delivered

can you ask botchi the same question because he won't answer me?

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

can you ask botchi the same question because he won't answer me?

I actually can't, I don't want to tell sven exactly what I've been waiting on, because if he is town, he is already supposed to care about it enough to do it

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Pi, pika?

You'll have to pardon my shitpost, I have eternal brainrot from my mabinogi / wuther waves farming lately