TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

the reason i didnt respond to it is for pretty much the exact reason you mentioned above in bold. i have gotten too defensive in the past and that has put a lot of suspicion on me. i also didnt feel there was any real content in what hatred said about me that i could meaningfully respond to, especially since he even admitted himself that his suspicion was likely due to differing playstyles.



reflecting back on it, its less that i read him as super towny and more that i definitely didnt read him as super scummy. i'm about neutral on him at the moment. i will say him not voting is trending him down for me

lol, radical honesty in para 1. I'll let that sit with me

[botchi246]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I'm worried about a ben lynch given that all the reasons I want to vote him are based on association and "he gives info" but it's d0 and there's no wolf flipped to draw actual association from

vote is on ben

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

unvote this may be the most genuine thing you've written all game

shado removes vote on ben becuz freezin believes sunfan, by extension shado believes sunfan, yet shado u go on to say u will choose ben over star

the consistency is wanting here. i guess you were on ben the whole time, but waiting on wagons to flesh out
not a big fan of the wishy washy, makes me think you want to jump on someone who seems town and follow along

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I'm feeling pretty blegh tonight so I'm gonna call it on any serious reading of EoD and wagonomics for the night

we wait

[botchi246]

i am so wrong shado, your vote was on freezin

[botchi246]

Originally Posted by botchi246

vote is on ben

shado removes vote on ben becuz freezin believes sunfan, by extension shado believes sunfan, yet shado u go on to say u will choose ben over star

the consistency is wanting here. i guess you were on ben the whole time, but waiting on wagons to flesh out
not a big fan of the wishy washy, makes me think you want to jump on someone who seems town and follow along


we wait

let me fix this
shados vote started on freezing, then unvote, then ben wagon.
i thought that you were flip flopping on ben, so that consistency argurment is invalid.

but you believed freezin who believed sunfan, this still seems like you want to follow town around.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by botchi246

a pr read? what pr are you talking about

Not that there is a PR, but they must've felt like she was as threatening as one, or they think by killing her it'd implicate some random VT, or they could've RNG'd but either way I'm not going to spend more time explaining my misspoken moment or theorycrafting why they killed her.

Time is better spent on why she died

[_Zenith_]

the sun fan

[botchi246]

let me clarify somethins about my playstyle, i dont like meta, i dont like established playstyles based on alignment

i like playing the game and reading it as it evolves. i try not to think about how people have played in other games.
this could partly be why my play has seemed lack luster, it takes a bit to collect enough info to do anything with, especially in a game of this size and activity.

and also, if i dont take time to organize in my brain, i make stupid mistakes. like that previous post where i counted shadowolfe's vote wrong.

i hate that im taking time to even say this. does it actually help anyone?

[botchi246]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Not that there is a PR, but they must've felt like she was as threatening as one, or they think by killing her it'd implicate some random VT, or they could've RNG'd but either way I'm not going to spend more time explaining my misspoken moment or theorycrafting why they killed her.

Time is better spent on why she died

raeko could have died because yall meta read each other town, and that could be a perfect way to get your kill on her zenith

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by botchi246

raeko could have died because yall meta read each other town, and that could be a perfect way to get your kill on her zenith

Ah true, forgot to think about that.

You got me, detective!

[botchi246]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

botchi was 100000% a better kill yesterday than ben, though

as usual, I really didn't have any solid scumreads on d0, I was just frustrated at a multitude of things

explain this please sunfan, as well as anyone else who thinks this is right.

what does my flip do for you sunfan? given my amount of activity and my posts and my meta i guess

its literally the first phase, and i was far from super active, so..what gives?

and freezin, you belive in sunfan strongly enough from d0 to parrot his votes????

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Yo, still catching up on this most recent page of stuff, but I just wanted to say poor raeko man. It's so out of left field that I'm fairly confident someone thought they got a PR read and went for it so I'm sure we can find something like that in her iso. I know I forgot to breadcrumb a little before EoD so I'm interested to see if she left some form of legacy in her near-eod posts.

I also want to just outright say my itinerary this phase, which is to iso raeko immediately, and then from there I want to scope out the wagons. Ben might've also left some legacy breadcrumbs somewhere so I want to take a closer look at what he was cooking (or not cooking since y'all took him out back). After that I should probably organize a reads list cause I haven't done one yet, and then idk this is as far as my current planning goes.

rip raeko (the meta lives on!)

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Not that there is a PR, but they must've felt like she was as threatening as one, or they think by killing her it'd implicate some random VT, or they could've RNG'd but either way I'm not going to spend more time explaining my misspoken moment or theorycrafting why they killed her.

Time is better spent on why she died

so did you misspeak or not? what even is this

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by botchi246

i was present for eod, but i was in the process of writing a response plus my vote, when i got distracted by the clusterf that happened at eod.

i was going to vote ben. i was hesitant to cast it because we were at eod and i didnt wanna insta. so many votes were getting put out at that time, i couldnt keep up.

i understand me not voting is a problem. i dont think its that big a problem in this context, because my vote was going to come in so late anyways. still my fault, my bad. i understand i disappointed sundad. my apologies to town

plausible deniability "i was going to do x so don't worry, it wouldn't have mattered even if i did vote"

it might not be a big problem that you didn't vote ben, but it is a problem that you didn't vote period.

[botchi246]

im sorry i did not play the game correctly at eod. read into what you will, other wise get over it.

i explained honestly, take that what you will

[the sun fan]

for people wondering about DBP's reentry and why it hit different
he already told you why
he had a crisis of confidence about it (or claimed to)
that's the difference between now and normal circumstances as claimed

[the sun fan]

one thing
star's first post today (or maybe it was the 2nd, it doesn't matter) where she criticized DBP (but more broadly people in general) for not townreading ben for saying I felt like Nagito to him

that's a damn good point and the first time this game where star feels town for such an insight
it makes me wonder why I didn't townread ben for that, it is obviously a townie thing for him to have said

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Yo, still catching up on this most recent page of stuff, but I just wanted to say poor raeko man. It's so out of left field that I'm fairly confident someone thought they got a PR read and went for it so I'm sure we can find something like that in her iso. I know I forgot to breadcrumb a little before EoD so I'm interested to see if she left some form of legacy in her near-eod posts.

I'm sure people have already commented on this
what the fuck

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

so did you misspeak or not? what even is this

Nah, I fully intended to mention a PR in a PR-less game.



............



Clearly fucking misspoke the wrong term/word there.

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

the sun fan

in the words of Matrix man, stop trying to hit me and hit me

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by botchi246

explain this please sunfan, as well as anyone else who thinks this is right.

what does my flip do for you sunfan? given my amount of activity and my posts and my meta i guess

its literally the first phase, and i was far from super active, so..what gives?

and freezin, you belive in sunfan strongly enough from d0 to parrot his votes????

I know you don't mean to do this if you're a villager, but this is a loaded question, or one that has a supposition different from mine

I am not after information related to flips. I, frankly, think it is a very bad way to try and play the game, ESPECIALLY on d0. Wolves do whatever they can to stop information from making sense based on flips, especially on FFR

I wanted to kill you (and still kind of do) because I thought you were scummy, and that made me think you would flip red, and that's kind of the beginning and end of it.

This post and the one before it does help me, where you're talking to me specifically. That wasn't really present the way I wanted before. When you thought I had my vote on you last game when you replaced in, you were very clearly taken aback, and your reactions haven't been rising to that level this game, that was probably the biggest reason why

and inactivity is and probably always will be a reason *for* me to vote someone, not a reason against

if you're town, we can work on getting there
as I said before, you are not currently my top kill so
there is that

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by botchi246

i hate that im taking time to even say this. does it actually help anyone?

yes