TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

[TWG Jeff Probst]

:59 good :00 bad

please stop posting right at 9!

[SubaruPoptart]

so two on bone, unless I'm boutta get ninja'd I ain't seen Lahke.

I hadn't considered a kitb, I don't like the idea of a kitb to be fair but I'd like to solve either option. The split in general is worrying because I got no idea where most of em are comin from. I really don't like the fact Jinx just went along with it but I'm goin wit hwaht I've been sayin the whole phase, sorry.

Lahkesis It's chaos at the end of EoD again, I ain't got time to think of a parting question in case I die.

[SubaruPoptart]

Blind and TPS should report prett ymuch as soon as they can what they did, who they did it to, etc. - depending on which one of em makes it anyway if one of em get hit in the night not me. I'm expectin some shenanigans

[TWG Jeff Probst]

Vote Count:

LastOfTheBonehicans (2) - star-crossed, Blindreper
Lahkesis (2) - JinxGrace, SubaruPoptart
Blindreper (1) - TPS
JinxGrace (1) - LastOfTheBonehicans
SubaruPoptart (1) - Lahkesis


Since there is a tie in votes, there will be a knife in the box between LastOfTheBonehicans and Lahkesis

LastOfTheBonehicans lost the knife in the box

LastOfTheBonehicans has died. He was....

Vanilla Town

Night 2 has started. Night 2 will end on Wednesday, July 2nd at 9PM CST

[TWG Jeff Probst]

In the night....

Blindreper has died. He was

Town Vanilla Seer

It is now Day 3

Day phases are now 24 hours long
Day 3 will end tomorrow, July 3rd at 9PM CST

[SubaruPoptart]

OK so it's exactly what I thought would go down

TPS who/what'd you get if anything

Very possible we're in that 3rd roleblocker world

[SubaruPoptart]

I also kinda don't get why the wolf would kill blind of anyone. Very much expected to wake up dead myself. Had a death post lined up and everything.

Assuming between those two it actually was TPS, they'd have that shield of uncertainty between two roles that we can't discern fuck all:tm: about who's telling the truth. Blind as the nightkill is the worst option from that point of view to me. It was prolly gonna end up that one of you two was dying regardless of what went down but I'm still super confused it wasn't a vote that did it. I personally think this confirms you to be the other PR but I gotta wait til y'all come back before I can bounce stuff off in that respect.

Lahke/Star are the two I'm lookin at the most, Star at this point cuz there's too little people left, and my initial fear of getting pocketed. I'm still convinced they're town but at this point maybe it's actually happenin :shrug:. I don't see why Star would kill Blind either, shield and stuff but they've been far far away from suspicions, potential god-tier covering going on; just like Jinx below I kinda don't want it to be a possibility but I gotta look into it now.

I strongly feel Jinx is frazzled town, but like I was sayin with Star I can't rule it out anymore. Haven't been able to figure out their vibe the whole game aside from bein kinda confused. I know you said you were comin back from work w/ a long drive EoD last phase, could understand parking it on Lahke from there based on what you said at the time but I do really wanna know aside from just sheepin what I was gonna vote why you did that. If it was Jinx, UTR Wolf checks out for that but on everything I don't want it to be the case; it's also really the only thing I got for this hypothetical.

I like Lahke's style of posting but it's led to several big ?????s in a row every time I try to pin their alignment down as well. Was intent on them last phase, kinda upset at the kitb to be quite honest but it at least figured out some of that 50/50. Cannot pin down what the strategy/the Why for if Lahke was the one that killed blind either.

[Tps222]

I targeted Lahkesis and found he didn’t do anything, so I’m clearing him in my books.

I’m sorry for not seriously considering blind could be a vanilla seer before I claimed. Will take some time tomorrow morning to re-read the last 2 EODs.

[SubaruPoptart]

Nah it's fine highkey. Makes sense to wanna dispute especially considering y'all targeted each other

If Lahkesis is clear this really puts a big gigantic gargantuan fuckin wrench into my whole gamestate. Best outcome imo tbh since it fixes both of the 50/50s we had going on last phase assuming the truth, but oh god LMAO. I might have been getting pocketed???????????? Went to DDR today so I'm fuckin exhausted

24 hr phase makes it a lil more manageable for me but oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy fuckin veyyyyyyyyyyyyy my brain's hurting

[SubaruPoptart]

If yours went through that means we're in a secret 4th world where you both were chill, there IS a wolf role outside of you two but god knows if it's power or not; whatever power it may have it certainly isn't a blocker thankfully. And most importantly it was not between Lahke/Bone. I apologize to y'all two for that cuz I was super tunnelled on it.

There's a buncha minutiae that'd complicate it at every step if you wanna entertain that kinda gymnastics but I am most certainly not at this point, been doin too much of that too frequently myself

[star-crossed]

Well, serve me some humble pie because I was really hoping the game would be over with how KITB fell yesterday. Sorry Bone, I want to win it for you.

I will be significantly less present today than on the past days because I have work and also because I have international visitors.

Subaru - Even with the game situation being weird, I ultimately just do not see how he can be the wolf in this game. His posts to me, are the most convincing of somebody who does not know who the wolves are and has been in the weeds consistently trying to figure it out the whole time. I do not see at all why a Freezin/Subaru pair thinks that their best chance to win, is doing what happened end of day 0 either. I just think it is so much more likely that I would be wrong elsewhere than wrong in this read.

This post for example, screams town to me, and it is just one post in an overall pattern.

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Where I stand atm, I might have some subconscious tunnelling going on with Jinx. Coming to this conclusion cuz I'd asked Jinx about the Blind/Star pairing already on 161. That is my bad; gonna have to start iso'ing myself too goin forward.

I feel Blind's acting pretty standard for Him, like y'all and himself were sayin he hasn't really played recently, nor do I think have I ever played with him outside of 200 (which I'd lowkey entirely forgotten about til it was mentioned for the first time, that game was fucked). Idrk what his playstyle is but comin from Blind as Blind yeah that seems like Blind; not much masking or angling I can personally pick up on.

Very curious about how TPS' reads'll shake out. Even when I was tunnelling on Jinx with the 50/50 on them I am admittedly more certain about TPS. You got a point with the "it's prolly the easy answer" though.

I haven't been considering Bone/Lahke in any of my votes but I'mma re-read em when I got the brain to. Havin different lenses/isos to read alongside it'll prolly help me figure stuff out with those two. I'd just been reading em as individuals like I was sayin and that was not very effective.

TPS - I mostly just do not really get how this setup would be balanced at all if the only town blue role was blind. blind's role on its own is barely helpful (because it cannot even locate Freezin and does not clear anybody). Really just in general, it is so much more elegant if there is another town blue role with blind's. TPS is the only other one to claim blue. I feel like I can understand all of his posting from the perspective of being a blue role, from the start of the game, and felt that his posting was reasonably genuine in being tunneled in on blindreper yesterday, and with regard to his claim.

Lahke can only be a wolf if a wolf power like Ninja exists. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja. This would basically make it so that blind's role is good at finding Lahke and TPS, and that TPS's role is good at finding Freezin. Which would be a reason for killing blindreper over TPS as well. There also remains evidence that Freezin's partner went AWOL, which Lahke still fits the bill of. I think if Lahke is a wolf, Lahke can hide it the most easily based on their style, where they have not really at any point given a full reads list breakdown.

I was reading JinxGrace's Freezin interactions and general posting as unusual but in the realm of possibility of being a wolf. I know Jinx had some real life stuff going on Day 1, but I am really needing to see more solving from them today. I felt a bit that after I wrote out their Freezin stuff, they were not around as much.

So, based on the information I have, I think that voting out Lahke and Jinx should win the game for town, and all that is my case for why that is.

If you need any kind of information for me to better understand my perspective in the game, please let me know early enough in the day that I can actually respond to it, as I am not reliably around in the middle of the night in Europe.

Personally, I do not think any new claims should be entertained in the final 3. I think it would be better to have it on the table today. I am green, myself, if that was not obvious already.

[JinxGrace]

@tps why lakeside and not me?

[Tps222]

I coinflipped between you two.

It's a 24 hour day? So deadline is 10 EST tonight? I will have a break in a few hours to check back in. I'd like to hear Lahk's takes on who he think is wolfy when he has a chance.

[Tps222]

We have less than 12 hours to go folks.

Jinx, why the question in the first place? Who are your top suspicions at the moment?

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by Tps222

We have less than 12 hours to go folks.

Jinx, why the question in the first place? Who are your top suspicions at the moment?

Coinflip is wild I gotta be honest, I would've checked Lahke as well seeing as they were the other half of the 50/50. I don't quite know TPS' standings on Jinx well enough to step in his shoes a second time but tbh you were certainly not on my radar for sure.

They've expressed repeated concern towards me. Quite honestly up until this phase I could see it, and it seemed like EoD last phase they had a change cuz Jinx said they were gonna sheep my vote. Whether sheeped me for lack of time's sake or whatever's actually goin on there, the flip from sus to "yeah i'll vote who you're voting" was a lil strange to me. I don't think that was ever addressed

[SubaruPoptart]

Rather ofc it wasn't addressed after the fact cuz they prolly weren't here but Bone had asked why 6 minutes after the vote actually happened.

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Coinflip is wild I gotta be honest, I would've checked Lahke as well seeing as they were the other half of the 50/50. I don't quite know TPS' standings on Jinx well enough to step in his shoes a second time but tbh you were certainly not on my radar for sure.

They've expressed repeated concern towards me. Quite honestly up until this phase I could see it, and it seemed like EoD last phase they had a change cuz Jinx said they were gonna sheep my vote. Whether sheeped me for lack of time's sake or whatever's actually goin on there, the flip from sus to "yeah i'll vote who you're voting" was a lil strange to me. I don't think that was ever addressed

Why? I was equally suspicious of both of them. Jinx didn't have the voting pattern evidence to lean town to the degree that star/subaru had and Lahk was going to be on the chopping block today if he lost the KITB.


I think I'd lean Jinx over a red role-block/ninja possibility with Lahk. If we're wrong, I'm wolfed and then we have 2v1 for the final day right? At that point all bets are off the table with regards to d1 EOD town-leans imo.

[JinxGrace]

Originally Posted by Tps222

We have less than 12 hours to go folks.

Jinx, why the question in the first place? Who are your top suspicions at the moment?

Coming back and reading the end of the day, I thought I looked odd voting and dipping but had to go. I was just wondering what kind of thought process went into picking the targets because I smell fish.

[JinxGrace]

As for sus, I have to think on it and whether I trust tps results or not. I would like do some research into role interactions but I don’t know if I will have the time with the day being shorter. Today is a very important day for me. Lakeside could be a specialize role as was said of ninja or tps results could be wonky. I also want to think on why target blind and not tps. I am not going to complain if you guys vote me as that makes sense under these circumstances. It’s not a lynch or lose situation. There is paranoia that I might be lynch target because I wouldnt be as aggressive as some others. Mostly speculations

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by JinxGrace

As for sus, I have to think on it and whether I trust tps results or not. I would like do some research into role interactions but I don’t know if I will have the time with the day being shorter. Today is a very important day for me. Lakeside could be a specialize role as was said of ninja or tps results could be wonky. I also want to think on why target blind and not tps. I am not going to complain if you guys vote me as that makes sense under these circumstances. It’s not a lynch or lose situation. There is paranoia that I might be lynch target because I wouldnt be as aggressive as some others. Mostly speculations

Ehhh, with the aggressive comment, can you like name and shame if this is serious who you suspect that from? With there being so people left I was just unclear on it still.