TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

[LastOfTheBonehicans]

Yeahhh when I starred typing all of that out this news was not revealed yet.

Also, I hope my tone wasn't bad there. I het trying to find the last wolf and see the points you were making against me. It did look bad that I vanished at the end there.

Well anywho... this got flipped upside down in the last few mins.

I need to reread about 9 different things and try to make heads or tails of this.

[star-crossed]

Ok sorry blind are you like a vanilla cop or something? Do you basically find out if people are like green or not green?

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

I have a powerful feeling that tps knows something we don't. And that feels wolfy to me. I want his story.

I used the word powerful here on purpose, because I have a power role. I wanted to have fallback for my defense when the time came for me to claim, which I'm now doing way early. 😭

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Ok sorry blind are you like a vanilla cop or something? Do you basically find out if people are like green or not green?

Exactly that. I get "so and so has power" or "so and so has no power" type of situation. No alignment notices. That's why I'm 85% sure tps is wolf and not 100%. And I'm not taking that chance, at least right now to vote him out until end or something else comes up.

[star-crossed]

I don't honestly think having this all out on the table is that bad overall even if you both end up being town (because really it is a better thing that the people who are more clear from Freezin interactions are not the same people as the special roles). To be honest, I actually think you it's quite plausible both of you are town and the wolf is Bone or Nakah??

[blindreper1179]

Tps, if you're town, we could have used code words to each other because why throw us both under the bus; to you, if I was town at any %chance?😭

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

I don't honestly think having this all out on the table is that bad overall even if you both end up being town (because really it is a better thing that the people who are more clear from Freezin interactions are not the same people as the special roles). To be honest, I actually think you it's quite plausible both of you are town and the wolf is Bone or Nakah??

I guess. I mean, I know I would of brought it up tomorrow in this phase, so I guess we get to talk about it more now? No for drill with everyone running around like a headless chicken.

[blindreper1179]

That's supposed to say fire drill

[star-crossed]

I guess fmpov Blind is just posting like somebody who has an actual PR and is not somebody whose wolf partner died because they fell asleep, then they f'd up the night kill, and then they got caught by a town PR. He is posting like somebody who has the enthusiasm of telling the actual truth.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

I guess fmpov Blind is just posting like somebody who has an actual PR and is not somebody whose wolf partner died because they fell asleep, then they f'd up the night kill, and then they got caught by a town PR. He is posting like somebody who has the enthusiasm of telling the actual truth.

you get the answer of your power after day start.

[blindreper1179]

that puts me in a worse light, but I'd rather you have the correct information.

[star-crossed]

Sorry that is not what I thought/the point. I am saying if you are a wolf it would be particularly impressive from you to post like this in a situation where you presumably would have extremely low morale.

TPS is less emotionally expressive of a person I think, is not posting at as a rapid of a rate, and also kind of disclosed earlier that he used to like to do wacky plays so I am less confident on how to read his behaviour surrounding the claim, but I do think that a vanilla cop and a tracker could be two town power roles in this setup. I guess I do think his questions about the setup at the start of day 0 fit with this?

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by LastOfTheBonehicans

Yeahhh when I starred typing all of that out this news was not revealed yet.

Also, I hope my tone wasn't bad there. I het trying to find the last wolf and see the points you were making against me. It did look bad that I vanished at the end there.

Well anywho... this got flipped upside down in the last few mins.

I need to reread about 9 different things and try to make heads or tails of this.

With 7 of us alive, we likely have 3 chances to get the last wolf out with our votes, so I had simply been framing my opinions in those terms. You could I guess argue that that is sus of me to be thinking that long-term, but fmpov that is just basic maths and the reality of town's situation.

I am also only giving my opinions so I can get feedback. I would love for people to debate me or find the actual wolf, if I am missing something. It was not intended to be a threat to say that you will probably have difficulty defending yourself directly from a process of elimination situation, just that the circumstances that you find yourself in of there being no real evidence you are not Freezin's partner would be difficult to argue against through defence. It would be more effective, as I said, to show me what I missed with somebody else.

If you are the last wolf, I do empathise that this is game is close to a worst case scenario situation for you currently and that you have gotten unlucky due to things that you cannot control e.g. eye surgery timing and when the game happened to start. No one is judging you for that. I have empathy for Freezin too. He can post well as a wolf when he has more time to do it; he has won against me before. I will keep trying to assess your alignment so long as I am still awake, in any case. I am a bit nauseous so it's hard to say how long that will be.

[star-crossed]

Sorry, you guys are probably really sick of reading my posts by now. But in summary, in lieu of any more reveals, I believe Subaru and Blind are definitely town, and I would favour keeping TPS around at least another day?

Bone's posting today seems more low morale than Nakah's so I am currently pretty happy with my vote.

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

How much rent do you pay to live in this thread subaru?

Few bucks a month and as long as I mow the lawn every other week I'm fine. Regained some of my brain and past two pages are a complete mindfuck.

If I'm understanding correctly

TPS is PR
Blind is cc'ing PR
Bone is back (hope your recovery continues to go well)

I feel like specific role is a moot point to me, y'all brought up the setup possibilities but quite honestly I don't have the energy to consider specific combos; 5t 2pr 2w (1w/1wpr?) checks out as a composition to me.

It is entirely possible both are telling the truth, which of the two it is that would be lying if lying were the case I do not have any basis for, this is shakin everything up lmao. Would this be eligible as a thunderdome cuz this feels like a thunderdome went down.

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Now I'm real curious, did anyone experience any role shenanigans last night on top of that

We still supposedly got some in based on the flips thus far and it'd definitely help narrow stuff down

This whole deal was what I was real curious about beginning of the phase as well, glad to see shenanigans are still alive and well

[blindreper1179]

Very close subaru. I am not counter claiming, but I am claiming because tps used their power against me and outed my power.

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Well like I doubt it was 50/50 in his mind because he targeted you because he thought you were sus?

I'm talking about this part:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

I was suspicious of tps, so I did choose them. It came back "tps has a power" or something like that. I ALSO assumed 1 town power role.

Mostly ignoring the "or something like that" thing, if Blind thought that there was only 1 town power role as he claims here, that means he is the only power role.

So if he did seer me and was told "TPS has a power" then I must be a wolf in his mind, in which he could just claim and win.


It makes no sense for him not to, and so he's claiming the only defense that could save him right now.

[Tps222]

sorry HTML wouldn't let me untoggle italics for whatever reason, it's not for any emphasis

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by Tps222

I'm talking about this part:

Mostly ignoring the "or something like that" thing, if Blind thought that there was only 1 town power role as he claims here, that means he is the only power role.

So if he did seer me and was told "TPS has a power" then I must be a wolf in his mind, in which he could just claim and win.

It makes no sense for him not to, and so he's claiming the only defense that could save

Highkey highkey highkey I can see this as going in assumin he's the only town role, then finding out there's another power role of some sort. I can believe you two havin targeted each other at the same time, and you two also being town. I've got a numbers game in the works I'm almost done with but I saw this and wanted to ask smth.

Cuz the one concern I have with this outlook, I might be thinking too deeply into the hypothetical logistics of the roles but assuming Blind's seer, and your tracker said that Blind had visited you, does Seer actually physically go and visit people? I always thought it was smth they did in their own hypothetical home without havin to go over and it wouldn't appear on Tracker. Unless "visit" is just synonymous with "someone did stuff to you" which I guess would make more sense; just wanna clear that up because that's the only hole I can see in this world.

[SubaruPoptart]

Aforementioned Numbers: all of this was typed before my post to TPS.

Player list:
1. FreezinIce vanilla wolf voted out day 1
2. JinxGrace Town Leaning
3. star-crossed Town
4. roundbox vanilla town killed night 1
5. Tps222 PR/Wolf??
6. SubaruPoptart Me
7. Lahkesis ??????
8. LastOfTheBonehicans ??????
9. blindreper1179 PR/Wolf????

I'm kinda lost so I'm playin numbers game rq since I can do numbers, clawin my way back.
Jinx and Star would fill out the rest of the VT core alongside me if you wanna trust me being truthful with my own read on myself. RB already dead, PoE leaves it between Bone and Lahke once again.

This is all hinging on TPS and Blind both telling the truth at the same time; hella load-bearing "if".

Because if not, one of those two lying really does feel like the "easy answer" from before. By definition it being between those two clears Bone/Lahke to me. It fully clears Jinx to me, etc. This would be the easy world but I'm havin a hard time discerning which of these two worlds we're actually lookin at.