TWG Turbo 38: Africa Feeble:mind Metaphor Game Thread

[SubaruPoptart]

I'm going to the store myself will be back in a couple hours, I've got a couple questions in the meantime.


I wanna know Bugkid's, WV's, and Zenith's general reads going out for everyone, since aside from obviously myself those are the people I've seen least from.

I got star and Raeko pretty far up town, there's nobody I could discernibly pick out as "yeah they're 100% wolf" but if anyone the bottom three is WV, Bugkid, and Zenith. WV solely because I was reading their posts in a kinda shitposty tone for the most part, I know D0 and all but I have no idea what to do with a vote during shitpost hours personally. I don't really know if it was genuine or not, I'm not great at tone-reading and I'm not sure if I should even be going that route. Bugkid and Zenith I definitely need to re-read; I personally have no real sway, I feel more positive about Zenith than I do Bug but it's just gut feeling, I'd like to develop an actual explanation why later. I feel decent about Freezin for sure on top of all that.

Do we know how many wolves there even are as well? I cannot quite find that in the ruleset. Not sure if Turbos generally roll with one or two. Cuz atm I'd wager at least one in the three of WV, Bugkid, and Zenith based on those couple baseless gut reads and the tone stuff I'm doing on WV. Obviously would like to strengthen this feeling before I act on it. I doubt there's two cuz it'd be 2w/5t and we'd be at parity soon with max of two deaths per night but idrk.

[mellon_collie]

I would also like to hear reads from Xel!!! You can only make deathposts during this phase so I say use those posts while you can. Better to use them than be "frugal" and have them go to waste

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I've caught up to this point, and the general conversation between Mellon and Star have me feeling generally good, would like to see more from WV, and I'm genuinely convinced bug/freezin/subaru are the same person

Why do you put Freezin with bug and subaru? He's got a lot of posts compared to those 2

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Do we know how many wolves there even are as well? I cannot quite find that in the ruleset. Not sure if Turbos generally roll with one or two.

For a nine player game usually it would be two wolves. It doesn't actually say anywhere for this game but the default assumption would be 2

[_Zenith_]

I didn't mean putting them together as in they are my worst reads, I meant it as to me, they give off the same energy and talk the same when I do my reread skims, but I know it's just me who feels this way lol.

I can expand a bit more on my reads when I get a bit more time to sit down and type them out but I will at least leave you with where my mindset is currently:

Mellon/Star conversation to me feels very towny and was the most healthy conversation in the game thus far
Freezing and Subaru are nulls to me, I don't have meta to go off of because I don't play frequently anymore, but nothing they've said thus far as made me swing one way or the other, so I'd love to see some more convos from them whenever they are able to revisit the game
WV/Bugkid I'm kind of echo chambering what others feel about them, I have my vote parked on WV until I see more from him because outside of the small banter and anecdotal comments there's really nothing there, fearing a potential UTR but it could be paranoia. Bugkid I just need to see more from, especially with some of the attention being drawn to them by others. I'd even be okay with voting there if push came to shove.

[bugkid666]

home now, reading thread

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Sorry, what did you mean with this?

lots of chatty people in this twg so less likely to have dead air

Originally Posted by star-crossed

bugkid ??? Weird and context deaf take. (I do not have any reason to assume votes count at night)

what the fuck lol

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I forgot no lynch was possible. Oooooooops

i also thought about this in the shower today and was wondering why i didnt check this earlier. if i had realized we could have abstained, i would not have bothered voting at all.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Players may make 12 posts in the following night phase, and XelNya make make 11 game-relevant deathposts.

so our night posts went down by 10, not sure if this has been mentioned yet, not caught up.

Originally Posted by star-crossed

bugkid666

I really struggle to see how this is a genuine take. It just kind of reads to me like you are trying to sound like you are assessing things but failed? Feel free to expand on this but yeah.

i really struggle with how to even respond to this because it's such a nothing thing to nitpick. i have no idea what you're getting at here and have no idea what to expand on. freezin (i think) said that you usually wallpost but you havent. i commented that that was true but earlier i thought you had said you were busy. i cant properly convey over text how insane i think voting for me over that is.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I've caught up to this point, and the general conversation between Mellon and Star have me feeling generally good, would like to see more from WV, and I'm genuinely convinced bug/freezin/subaru are the same person

i would love to know why on that last bit

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

i would love to know why on that last bit

nevermind you answered

[mellon_collie]

helllllllllo bugkid welcome back I am very curious about your thoughts at this point in the game

I'd also like to hear more from WV. He came in like a ball of fire then kinda poof gone and tbh I don't really like that kind of chaotic energy

also if you wanna get on my good side you KNOW which baby you need to post @WV

[bugkid666]

so my thoughts on wv are pretty weak but here it goes... most of the time i;ve played with him he's been a pretty reserved wolf. i get the sense he doesnt really like playing nontown roles, so i dont think he tries as hard to up his post count when he's a baddie. but he came in super hot and heavy yesterday and that felt really uncharacteristic to how i've seen him play usually. i would lean towards town for him here.

raeko seems town. someday that read will bite me in the ass but not today.

star SEEMS town but there's something about their posts that feel a bit superficial. as if they're probing people to elaborate more than usual maybe. they're null for me right now, but i probably wouldnt vote them today.

suburu is a ? for me right now, i've basically never played with him before.

freezin hasnt really said enough for me to glean anything in particular.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I'm a little surprised nobody mentioned the possibility of no-lynch this phase, but I'm not too experienced with the pros/cons of doing that.

i really do not like this post. raeko pointed it out too. this reads as you had thought about it earlier and chose not to mention it. why? i would like more elaboration on the "pros/cons" you alluded to and/or an explanation of this

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

For a nine player game usually it would be two wolves. It doesn't actually say anywhere for this game but the default assumption would be 2

shiiiiitttt

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I would also like to hear reads from Xel!!! You can only make deathposts during this phase so I say use those posts while you can. Better to use them than be "frugal" and have them go to waste

THIS!!! I could see him savin em closer to EoD but whenever you're able to it'd be greatly helpful.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I've caught up to this point, and the general conversation between Mellon and Star have me feeling generally good, would like to see more from WV, and I'm genuinely convinced bug/freezin/subaru are the same person

I agree on seein more from WV too, prolly repeating myself but I'm liking what I'm seein from Bug now. Saw Zenith's explanation for the same person thing and it makes sense to me, though Freezin prolly shouldn't have been grouped in imo.

Most of my initial gut feeling on Bug was based off of Star's vote on em but reading their responses to it I don't get why a vote was pushed on that lookin back.

[FreezinIce]

Guild wars is going on in Granblue Fantasy atm so I'm less active than I'd like to be. I'll be around near EOD

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

so our night posts went down by 10, not sure if this has been mentioned yet, not caught up.



i really struggle with how to even respond to this because it's such a nothing thing to nitpick. i have no idea what you're getting at here and have no idea what to expand on. freezin (i think) said that you usually wallpost but you havent. i commented that that was true but earlier i thought you had said you were busy. i cant properly convey over text how insane i think voting for me over that is.

I don't get or like the rhetoric with your first sentence. I think it is less likely that the bugkid who doesn't already know who is a wolf and who is town posts that message. WV was shitposting/doing hyperbole when saying I wasn't posting paragraphs as a follow up on not liking my first post. There was nothing to warrant doing so except for the one I posted when I was about to go to sleep. You agreeing with the premise that it is weird for me not to have posted paragraphs but then couching it in saying I am busy seems to fit the mindset more of faking it than someone who is actually trying to evaluate the people who were posting before you showed up or WV, in my opinion. I do not think I am going to find your response as useful now (hope I am wrong) now that I have had to walk through this which is why I tried to let you address it first. But then you just kind of got mad and didn't even read back at all?

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

so my thoughts on wv are pretty weak but here it goes... most of the time i;ve played with him he's been a pretty reserved wolf. i get the sense he doesnt really like playing nontown roles, so i dont think he tries as hard to up his post count when he's a baddie. but he came in super hot and heavy yesterday and that felt really uncharacteristic to how i've seen him play usually. i would lean towards town for him here.

I respect you explaining the thought process here but the last time I played with WV as a wolf he posted 100 times so yeah. I don't really think his d0 posting warrants more than a d0 pass of sorts and I am now starting to worry he flaked out of the game entirely

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

raeko seems town. someday that read will bite me in the ass but not today.

star SEEMS town but there's something about their posts that feel a bit superficial. as if they're probing people to elaborate more than usual maybe. they're null for me right now, but i probably wouldnt vote them today.

suburu is a ? for me right now, i've basically never played with him before.

freezin hasnt really said enough for me to glean anything in particular.



i really do not like this post. raeko pointed it out too. this reads as you had thought about it earlier and chose not to mention it. why? i would like more elaboration on the "pros/cons" you alluded to and/or an explanation of this

I've gone back and forth on it a bit in my head but it's unlikely I would vote Subaru today after 161. If you are town then Zen/Freezi is a decent place to be looking tbf

[mellon_collie]

Xel plz respond

@star would you be down with voting either Zen or Freezi today or do you feel like bugkid needs to be first?

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Xel plz respond

@star would you be down with voting either Zen or Freezi today or do you feel like bugkid needs to be first?

I mean I think bugkid is most likely to flip wolf of the 3 but that's just how I'm reading the game. Zenith would be a process of elimination pick; I think it's fair to keep pressuring there

I am going to bed quite soon tbh so I think you are going to have to eval Freezin based on what he pushes at the end. Historically you are better at reading him than me anyways. He has basically failed to prioritise this post flips which leaves me pretty unable to integrate his d0 with the current game state

[star-crossed]

Turbos are hard enough and we have a bunch of low posters so we are just going to have to get lucky to get a wolf today I think