TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Why would you not town read your wolf partner ?


I'm just asking in case it helps you reach some sort of conclusion.

I totally would, just like... the way he went about it is still very blatant if that makes sense?

That's where I was at previously, anyway; do want to check if he returned to talking about Hate after he returned though!!!

[Hakulyte]

After reading the roundbox/raeko posts, I'm leaning toward a H&H/Sunfan team.

[Hakulyte]

lol I'm sussing Sunfan over the single basis that I think he's the only player who would have figured roundbox was blue smh.

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

lol I'm sussing Sunfan over the single basis that I think he's the only player who would have figured roundbox was blue smh.

TMI?

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

What does that even mean? My only strong conviction is that I don't want MML to die today and that the same applies to roundbox. I specifically said this is a voting thoughts list, not a reads list, I have no reads right now, and the best I can do about that is apologize

Calling anything here a "strong conviction" is a horrible misrepresentation of what I'm saying lol
[edited out the response to the other quote]

Noting that unless Hate/MixMasterLar are just hard aligning here, I think they're not aligned; the way Hate talks about MixMasterLar is like... even if Hate is mafia, then I feel like it's more likely to be TMI that MixMasterLar is town here, rather than MixMasterLar being their partner; also just a bit too blatant!!!!

[Hakulyte]

It's mostly assumptions. Roundbox just has informative PR related stuff, but it could have been posted by a VT.

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I will post more later, possibly veeeeery late tonight, more likely tomorrow
I feel like making hateandhatred sweat a little because I think his EOD was kinda stinky and felt kind of listless

I like hakulyte and I *think* I like Lar
I will elaborate on many more things later

leetic smells

Originally Posted by the sun fan

leetic
nevermind sven, you're off the hook

I'm just looking at stuff like this and be like "if wolf he was considering bussing partner then went nah and tried to see if voting out leetic works".


ofc, I could just be wrong.

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

It's mostly assumptions. Roundbox just has informative PR related stuff, but it could have been posted by a VT.


I'm just looking at stuff like this and be like "if wolf he was considering bussing partner then went nah and tried to see if voting out leetic works".


ofc, I could just be wrong.

It's mainly how are you sure roundbox was the wolf kill and not raeko?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by leetic

It's mainly how are you sure roundbox was the wolf kill and not raeko?

I don't think a wolf player NK Raeko here because she wasn't super town and even the EoD looks bad with the bugkid flip. If I was a wolf, I would go for a blue role and look up posts that would profile a power role.


At the end of the day, it doesn't matter as much which it is. It just means both cases has to be considered.

[Arapocalypse]

I don't really have that much more to say regarding EoD, already don't think Hate/MixMasterLar are w/w from Hate's earlier posts but also there's this post:

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I still don't get why that's your angle personally and I think that's what I don't like about it. Maybe I'm just bad at the game, but I don't really get why you'd want to keep voting on weiss when it could actively harm us more than probably any other mislynch if they flipped the soul thing, also considering the fact that the potential replacements are sunfan and star_Crossed, we should be golden when it comes to engagement

I don't read your vote weird at all, I just don't understand it

If you're hard defending a partner, you don't turn around and make this post at them!!! Also this isn't a w/w exchange regardless, and also I do feel like it's a bit towny anyways... Hate's focus here wasn't really on survival, which yes is a bit weird for both alignments, but moreso as mafia I think when there was a perfectly good alternative (Bug) to jump on!!

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I don't think a wolf player NK Raeko here because she wasn't super town and even the EoD looks bad with the bugkid flip. If I was a wolf, I would go for a blue role and look up posts that would profile a power role.


At the end of the day, it doesn't matter as much which it is. It just means both cases has to be considered.

I guess I can kind of see that no potential wolf would really want to see raeko dead (except maybe Hate but even there there are better options). The confusing thing is why they were killed over Hate or Weiss but eh.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

I don't really have that much more to say regarding EoD, already don't think Hate/MixMasterLar are w/w from Hate's earlier posts but also there's this post:If you're hard defending a partner, you don't turn around and make this post at them!!! Also this isn't a w/w exchange regardless, and also I do feel like it's a bit towny anyways... Hate's focus here wasn't really on survival, which yes is a bit weird for both alignments, but moreso as mafia I think when there was a perfectly good alternative (Bug) to jump on!!

If Hate/Sunfan are w/w this post does make sense.

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by leetic

He's been transparent about his thought processes sure, but it's those thought processes themselves that are confusing.

Shrug, I feel like them being transparent automatically doesn't make them confusing? Easy to follow the threads from where their reads shape the game to result in the teams they're making, and all that fun town stuff of solving the game!!!



But anyways, do you think they are mafia processes, then?



Just lowkey surprised they aren't townier for you, but also yes reads are subjective and all!!!

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by leetic

I guess I can kind of see that no potential wolf would really want to see raeko dead (except maybe Hate but even there there are better options). The confusing thing is why they were killed over Hate or Weiss but eh.

I think the Raeko kill has to do with the EoD with the wagon swap/insta.

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

If Hate/Sunfan are w/w this post does make sense.

A problem is that practically anyone can be with Sunfan, with how the slot was empty yesterday; doesn't mean that much!!!

Except maybe like... MixMasterLar? He's the only one who was that adamant about trying to kill them, but that's basically it!!

Which does mean that if I can rule out a MixMasterLar/Leetic team, then that should fully clear MixMasterLar, which would be nice!!!!

Also does that mean you agree with me, that MixMasterLar/Hate can't exist?

I'm not used to getting into teambuilding so quickly in games, this is fun!!!! :P

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Shrug, I feel like them being transparent automatically doesn't make them confusing? Easy to follow the threads from where their reads shape the game to result in the teams they're making, and all that fun town stuff of solving the game!!!



But anyways, do you think they are mafia processes, then?



Just lowkey surprised they aren't townier for you, but also yes reads are subjective and all!!!

I guess I can kind of see an argument in that being so open may make things harder for them as wolf, especially if they wanted to avoid spewing a partner. Still, I am maybe reminded a bit from Haze's wolfgame in the previous turbo, where they were open but a lot of the stuff they were saying was clearly done to obfuscate and disrupt town's process. Now that was a solo wolf game so such a strategy was easier to pull off there and Haku hasn't been nearly as disruptive as Haze was but it still prevents me from clearing them especially when there's not too many options of who it could be. I'm still very unlikely to actually vote them today however.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

A problem is that practically anyone can be with Sunfan, with how the slot was empty yesterday; doesn't mean that much!!!

Except maybe like... MixMasterLar? He's the only one who was that adamant about trying to kill them, but that's basically it!!

Which does mean that if I can rule out a MixMasterLar/Leetic team, then that should fully clear MixMasterLar, which would be nice!!!!

Also does that mean you agree with me, that MixMasterLar/Hate can't exist?

I'm not used to getting into teambuilding so quickly in games, this is fun!!!! :P

You're more likely to find a wolf by using pairing to find a common denominator than finding 2 wolves at once tbh. I'm sure they're good enough to distance properly.

[Arapocalypse]

Teams I've ruled out:
Anything with Arapocalypse/Haru
MixMasterLar/Sunfan
MixMasterLar/Hateandhatred

Current teams I want to focus on ruling out:
MixMasterLar/Leetic
Leetic/Hate

Other possible teams:
Leetic/Sunfan
Hate/Sunfan

I think that's it, for teams between Leetic/Sunfan/MixMasterLar/Hate?

Writing this down as I feel like I'm losing my train of thought here a little, also need to do some stuff/back in a bit!!!! Also if there's any other teams that you think should be ruled out/that I'm missing, then please mention it so I can add it!!

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

You're more likely to find a wolf by using pairing to find a common denominator than finding 2 wolves at once tbh. I'm sure they're good enough to distance properly.

On one hand I get that, but on the other there are only 6 people left; not that many pairings, when every person only has 5 other people to consider anyway!!!

[Hakulyte]

I guess if I had a question for you two specifically, it would be why you're not considering me as a wolf.

Maybe you're just that good, but yeah.

[Hakulyte]

I guess a more fun question would be: who should I vote ?