On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)

[Makilaz]

this has been open for quite some time now, what's the plan timelinewise

are we keeping this open another indefinite period, are new mods a thing, are we going to do self policing instead, what's the dealio

[Charu]

FFRTWG's been cancelled

[Makilaz]

Originally Posted by Charu

FFRTWG's been cancelled

we had a good run lads

[Funnygurl555]

vote me for mod

[Bolth mannn]

funnygurl

[the sun fan]

i'll be making a post addressing some/all things no later than Sunday, assuming I continue to have power

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by roundbox

One aspect of our culture that isn't necessarily accommodating, I think, is something akin to an "old boys club," where only a certain sect of users are taken seriously in-game (and out-of-game, too). I know I belong to this since people frequently take my reads with more than a grain of salt instead of moving past them. I know that this post will be taken seriously, so that's why I think it's important for me to respond.
I think certain vets here and new users have a bias pressed against them for possible reasons of inexperience, lack of results, user demographics, or general lack of trust. For new users, I think the inexperience and trust stand out, and for veteran users, I think demographics and results stand out. I know I'm guilty of making judgment calls on people's reads because they've had a trend of being wrong. I've glanced past certain users because I perceived their skill to be low. I feel like I've improved on this and judged less, but implicit bias is hard to move past once someone has said something that rubbed you the wrong way at one point. One example that I feel stands out is Lar. When Lar first started, he had his Lar method of analyzing votes and whatnot, and I know he was the subject of some lines of ridicule. His method didn't seem to get results, and it seemed like he was a one-trick pony that was constantly or mostly wrong. However, I think Lar is a beast at the game now. I do think he is taken more seriously now, but he has results that got him out of that social rut. Some people are not as fortunate and have a hard time posting and being taken seriously. I think this is an issue that should get some attention as well.

In my opinion, the condescension you have described is definitely the most unpleasant aspect of this community. You explained it a lot better than I could have. I actually think FFR is the least toxic overall of the werewolf games I have tried.

[the sun fan]

Alright, this update is right on time, I promise

After some conferring, we've decided to go with two new mods, T-Force and Makilaz. Among the five of us, we will be discussing our ideas for managing toxicity.

[Makilaz]

I am grateful for this opportunity and hope to make ffrtwg a better place for everyone

[T-Force]

Cheers. Makilaz summed up my thoughts as well.

[mellonxcollie]

Congrats guys!

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Makilaz

I am grateful for this opportunity and hope to make ffrtwg a better place for everyone

You have already failed by default. I thought I'd let you know, so you could adjust your standards accordingly.

That said, congrats. Hopefully it goes well.

[Makilaz]

Originally Posted by XelNya

You have already failed by default. I thought I'd let you know, so you could adjust your standards accordingly.

That said, congrats. Hopefully it goes well.

what is life if not an unceasing series of failures

[Funnygurl555]

all y'all really had to be out here appointing t-force over me tho. i see how it is

gl though i have faith that y'all will improve this community