Do you have a religion?

[Hakulyte]

Just a reminder that we're in Chit Chat and not CT.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm not going to tell you guys that God exist etc.

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

sorry then you aren't christian

Does God exist ? Yes ? Prove it ? You can't.
Does God exist ? No ? Prove it ? You can't.

This would lead to circular thinking and the thread will probably self-destruct within a few pages. So, I prefered to not commit to that question.

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

christians are commanded to proselytize

you don't get to selectively choose what tenants of your religion you want to follow, i mean you can i guess because this is what spawned the bazillion offshoots of christianity and other religions and varying orthodoxies

Is religion flexible or not ?
If it's not flexible, do you think some groups within it should go extinct while others that are harmless should continue to exist ?
..or do you think religion should disappear in general ?

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

religion is a tool that exists for 2 purposes

1) to placate literal plebs (ruling class pov)
2) to rationalize illogical behavior (pleb pov)

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

the idea that religion must evolve in modernity is ridiculous, it serves no functional purpose in a modern society, it needs to go extinct

I doubt religion has completely no functional purpose, but it's certainly in decline.
There's going to be a spiritual void sooner or later if you get rid of religion.
People will start lacking purpose and deviate into mostly their own desires about what should happen.
This is could be meaningful and/or harmful depending on how each person view life etc.
Religion is also a tool that helps manage how to interpret life.
It's like philosophy for dummies if you don't want to reinvent everything. It's literally a recipe/methodology ready to use.

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

but this belies how fucking retarded organized religion actually is

religion is a set of beliefs and ideals to which all members ascribe to, the only thing that sets it apart from any set of non religious beliefs and ideals is that all members are supposed to believe the exact same shit

So, based on this, I'm assuming religion cannot be flexible from your pov. You're basically saying that if someone is religious, they're accepting to live in a box with preconceived ideas. This is only partially true from my pov. I cannot change what the Bible says, but keep in mind that the Bible and everything it says wasn't made for this generation. There's a gap that creates itself as society evolves and humanity is evolving fast right now. So, it is important that religion also evolve as well to stay relevant until things are proven one way or the other.

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

if you can convey an idea or a concept via religion you can do it without religion

if you can live your life by a moral code and set of rules commanded to you by your religion then, wow, surprise

you can do it without religion

do you see where im going with this

you aren't christian you are just using christianity as a pretext for living your own life with your own rules and beliefs anyway, so no, you aren't fucking 'religious' and this is what makes the collective world religions a shining example of how unbelievably stupid humanity can be

Just because you can do it without it, doesn't mean you have to.

Looks like you've been right all along tho and that I'm living in a fantasy world which is mixing both christianity and philosophy.
So yeah, after double checking, it looks like I'm not religious and that you won't see me at your local church every week.

If anything, I'm probably more agnostic with a tendency for wanting to believe the glass of water is half full.
I still had the regular Christian education as a kid with the sacraments/communion/etc.
It's just that I see religious people in my every day life and I kind of enjoy being able to interact with them openly while trying to compromise and confront ideas.

I don't see angels at night and I've never had some divine intervention or anything happen to me. It's just a spiritual experience overall.
Still better than a slap in the face.

#religion in 2017