TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

it was a reread kill, don't know what else to tell you

can you tell me why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

what didn't you like in your reread, do you have a post about it?

think i only saw you talking about giving him a pass on d1 in finals

no I didn't post anything specific yet, I'll go find the posts

go read the logic of why I'm never a wolf though while I look

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

can you tell me why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?

sugar

[Charu]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i mean, i don't think they can win off this night anyway

lynhcing in AA/raeko and being wrong just seems more dangerous

Dangerous, yes, but like I said, with the scenarios given and the logic...

I feel like a mellon lynch is the correct lynch. No need to go the "safe" route.

That's just me though, but I understand. If we lynch the "safe" person, then...

Depending on if Haku was telling the truth, ... backpack dies and then we're back to square one.

If Haku is lying and is actually wolf aligned MVX, then assuming AA is telling the truth, they get another shot and will shoot mellon. Otherwise, if Mellon is telling the truth, backpack dies and then we're back to square one... AGAIN

If Haku is lying and is actually a wolf (and I swear to god... if I see this... I'm yelling at Shadow), then... the real MVX is lying for some reason. Depending on what kind of wolf Haku is, MVX will gain that power, because lets face it, there's no way a town-sided MVX is in this game anymore. BUT that's only if they're neutral. If they're MVX-Wolf, then backpack dies and... well we're ONCE AGAIN back in square one, just now with a wolf dead. If they're MVX-Self, depending on what flip, they may, or may not, get a killing role and will probably shoot the "claimer" (Which is a 50/50 due to backpack) and then backpack dying anyways because wolves will shoot him. ONCE AGAIN back in square one.

...

So, with that... I think those are the possible scenarios?

[Charu]

All scenarios go back to this problem, btw

[AragakiAyase]

1st point: his reads list was abysmal

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

InD - Town.

Charu - Probably town. He's shitposted a bit more than I remember being normal, but the periods where he focuses in and shares reads or suspects something is what I've come to expect from town!Charu. His obtuseness in the Xel thing seemed genuine, despite how tilting it was. What I liked most was #338, where his shitposts were interrupted a brief moment where he shared his thoughts and then told sunfan that he was watching him. I'll have to reassess tomorrow, but I'm not lynching him today.

DBP - town-lean. He's been pushing and solving this phase, and is generally looking like Detective Backpack. Want to see him follow the same trajectory tomorrow, but I'm liking the mindset he takes in calling people out, and the one he took in the Xel/Charu/Yeti interaction where he figured out where Xel was coming from but didn't want to respond for fear of spoiling Xel.

Xel - Slight townlean. I seem to be the only one who likes his anger and emotional responses, but it is what it is. Seems to be frustrated for townier reasons than not, but I'll elaborate at a different time.


AA - Null-slight town. Seems good so far. Like his interactions with sunfan early on when sunfan was talking about inD and mindmelds. Nothing out of his scumrange though so he's here for now.

Blindreper - Frustrated town. Just a feeling no time to elaborate.

Haku - Null, slight scum. He seemed better earlier on (except for the post where he said he was going to sleep instead of shitposting. he later said that post was a shitpost tho so rip), but the more I read the more I noticed a distinct lack of the usual paranoia and tinfoiling I expect from Haku. Posts like #1174, #1116, and #1120, reassure me a bit, but I feel like town!Haku doesn't go through D0 without pushing forward these insane theories and constantly tinfoiling everything.

kirkfan2255 - Null. She's been different than what I remember her in Game 7. She had the balls of steel to commit to her reads and vote first on F3 in the tournament game, and I don't see that here. It's D0 though, and she replaced into Champs G7 really late, so I'm willing to give her time.

Roundbox - Totes Null. Don't remember him doing anything and don't have time to look it up.

Manti - Null, slight scum. Seems off at times and a bit overmechanical. He's made a lot of posts about how much other people are posting, but his own analyses, while seeming to want to dive into mindset, feel lacking.

sunfan - Null, slight scum. 10:57 no time

Yeti - Slight scumlean. Playing super differently than expected. No time.

Raeko (mellon) - Scum lean. Can't see a solving mindset behind any of her posts. #690 was her readslist and she basically gave townreads to a bunch of people and declared everyone else null. Also this is an old read but she's the queen of UTR when she's scum or third-party, and that's exactly the sort of play I've seen from her today. The one redeeming post where I get a hint of solving was when she said trying to get the alien to claim was more scum than not (about sunfan). I don't really agree with that conclusion, but I can see where she's coming from.

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

fuck just realized while writing it's 9:30 gotta hurry the fuck up

mellonxcollie. Can't see a solving mindset behind any of her posts. #690 was her readslist and she basically gave townreads to a bunch of people and declared everyone else null. Also this is an old read but she's the queen of UTR when she's scum or third-party, and that's exactly the sort of play I've seen from her today. The one redeeming post where I get a hint of solving was when she said trying to get the alien to claim was more scum than not (about sunfan).

Don't want Xel or Blind. Blind just looks like frustrated town, and I really don't want to see Xel lynched!!!!!!

should hopefully have the rest posted before EoD

toneread on this was disgusting

most of his posts just didn't feel great to me, reason I went for him over roundbox is that I thought shado had more of a chance to post whereas roundbox was smaller sample size. I did think the charu iso was rather arbitrary but his point about hwo charu seemed to be taking up a lot of space being the reason seemed plausible

[AragakiAyase]

I realize my reasons for killing shado don't look great on paper, but that's because there's very little of it on paper to begin with

don't really care tbh though, it is what it is

[inDheart]

i actually don't think haku gains an advantage from lying here as self aligned, thinking about it more

i think he ~always tries to sell out wolves since he needs them dead as much as town does

if wolves win he loses

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charu

If Haku is lying and is actually wolf aligned MVX, then assuming AA is telling the truth, they get another shot and will shoot mellon. Otherwise, if Mellon is telling the truth, backpack dies and then we're back to square one... AGAIN

Actually, no wait, if this is what's happening, then this is actually best case. If Haku wolf-aligned, then AA gets another shot, pop pop, two wolves down, one wolf left.

Alright, I think I like the Haku lynch, but that's ONLY if this scenario is happening.

Feels like taking a dare tbh. Is this really "safe", lmao./

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Charu

Actually, no wait, if this is what's happening, then this is actually best case. If Haku wolf-aligned, then AA gets another shot, pop pop, two wolves down, one wolf left.

Alright, I think I like the Haku lynch, but that's ONLY if this scenario is happening.

Feels like taking a dare tbh. Is this really "safe", lmao./

if haku is self then depending on what happens at night we end up with DBP dead and 0-1 wolves dead

haku being wolf-aligned potentially means there's a roleblocker though which is what me and blind were discussing

[Charu]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i actually don't think haku gains an advantage from lying here as self aligned, thinking about it more

i think he ~always tries to sell out wolves since he needs them dead as much as town does

if wolves win he loses

Actually... they when when all PR's... and the two wolf PR's, are dead. They don't care about the informant.

[inDheart]

charu are you sure you're town favoring

AA why'd you pick at my "alternate thought" where i read a pattern in haku's posting across the game

[AragakiAyase]

which is why I just want to lynch mellon

I think haku's telling the truth, and there being motion detectors available would explain why scum shoots him

mellon shooting him means she's almost always the strong wolf PR, either the death dealer with kill bonuses or a strongman kill scientist (unless it got used n1 in which case lolwolves)

eliminating the strong wolf PR means I always get my shot off

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

charu are you sure you're town favoring

AA why'd you pick at my "alternate thought" where i read a pattern in haku's posting across the game

I don't remember this can you quote it

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Charu

Actually... they when when all PR's... and the two wolf PR's, are dead. They don't care about the informant.

the town PRs are all but outed now

if he has info on any potential wolf then it helps him

[Charu]

Originally Posted by inDheart

charu are you sure you're town favoring

I'm trying to figure out the best course of action as much as anyone else.

So if that's not "town favoring" to you...........

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

his early game wasn't even normal haku obvtown tho

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I suppose

it would make sense with his awkward posting and shado voting him

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

haku please claim town mvx

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm not "town" mvx.

actually this doesn't bother me on reread, you were just telling me he was already out of town range

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

which is why I just want to lynch mellon

I think haku's telling the truth, and there being motion detectors available would explain why scum shoots him

mellon shooting him means she's almost always the strong wolf PR, either the death dealer with kill bonuses or a strongman kill scientist (unless it got used n1 in which case lolwolves)

eliminating the strong wolf PR means I always get my shot off

does it have to be a strongman kill? but yeah i think the way it's set up, the superwolf roles are supposed to near always be making the kills anyway

[inDheart]

where roundbox

we're still waiting on that hot solve from him

[Charu]

Originally Posted by inDheart

where roundbox

we're still waiting on that hot solve from him

*shrug*