TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

well, to be precise, it establishes that there is most likely exactly one between sanzath and WV

So WV looking from shit comes from me being clear, and me being clear comes from you pocketing me since I'm active right now, gotcha

/s

[sanzath]

looking like shit*

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

blind's sanzath ISO simultaneously clears sanzath and makes WV look like shit

im checking up on the posts that i missed so how about you hold onto that thought

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

After doing this, I'm more sure of sans being wolf again. He hasn't had good voting, he's attached himself to WV. It looks like a pocket in my point of view. I have a good feeling to vote either sans or round with confidence. I don't see myself right now going somewhere else.

Remember that wolves needed exactly one mislynch in order to win the game.

Blind was poised to lynch roundbox or sanzath. I seriously doubt that blind would risk putting a wolf partner on the chopping block in case, say, roundbox claimed doctor or something.

Furthermore.

He makes the point that sanzath, "a wolf", was attaching himself to WV, "a town", from blind's POV. This is an attempt for blind to attach more suspicion to sanzath while simultaneously keeping WV far away from the chopping block.

After all, if a wolf was trying to pocket somebody, that somebody would be town, right?

Meaning:

sanzath is town and WV, one of the most likely lynch targets besides roundbox, is wolf, because blind was trying to protect him.

This level of reasoning is possible for DaBackpack.

如何です、皆様方。。。。。。？

[DaBackpack]

Consider that, at the start of the phase, there were realistically going to be two lynch targets

roundbox and WV

blind, a confirmed wolf, gunned towards roundbox and a backup lynch: sanzath.

This, of course, was to protect WV, a weak wolf partner who almost died in the previous phase.

[Wayward Vagabond]

weird how your reasoning for me being scum is part of why i think blind is scum

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

weird how your reasoning for me being scum is part of why i think blind is scum

It's possible that blindreper made that comment in order to specifically appeal to you, in order to swing a vote from you. I'm not saying this sarcastically btw.

Regardless, I think sanzath is town here.

You should post your thoughts while you're here

[DaBackpack]

I wish my town reads would weigh in more

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

It's possible that blindreper made that comment in order to specifically appeal to you, in order to swing a vote from you. I'm not saying this sarcastically btw.

Regardless, I think sanzath is town here.

You should post your thoughts while you're here

i have over 800 posts i need to read over. give me a sec

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I wish my town reads would weigh in more

Working on that

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

uhhh NO?

First off, I didn't expect charu to flip. Not even a little bit. That chinese fire drill was my fault because I was the target, but it's NOT my fault charu died. That's your fault. YOU voted him.

I didn't expect to be counterclaimed because I AM THE VIGI.

If I wasn't Why wouldn't I go with cop and have a check?

If I wasn't Why wouldn't I go with roleblocker and say I blocked a kill on my target?

If I wasn't Why wouldn't I go with 1-shot vigi?

You are so fucking confident with yourself like everyone in this game is going to believe your counterclaim because of your nice little charade. I'M NOT HAVING IT.

This is one of blind's posts that has me uncertain, because fakeclaiming full vigi in this setup is indeed pretty ballsy. But I'm also seeing these three questions, "Why wouldn't I do _____ instead?", instead of addressing the real point, which should have been: "If I am fakeclaiming, why did I fakeclaim vigi?"

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

lmao, you're doing the same shit as roundbox. Nice.

huh

[roundbox]

brb food then I'll be here all phase end probably, not sure what else to do, I feel like I'll start solving harder next phase

[Wayward Vagabond]

hey freezin can i get a reads list so i can see where you're at since you took over raekos slot

[FreezinIce]

im always busy sunday, so this will be my last chance for a large post to share my thoughts. I should get enough time to come back and vote blind at eod

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Blind the main issue i have with you is

>you're argument doesnt make any sense and is very subjective

>your play doesnt match your claims

im the TINIEST bit annoyed that everyone is copying my "want it more" buzzword but thats the main issue with your play right now. You can see DBP's investment in the game, he clearly has a stake in events and his softs are plain as day. You have not tried to expand your horizons very much past loudly arguing with dbp and it shows. Your not invested in towns well-being like he is. combine that with

thats enough about blind

final reads list atm is fairly similar to dbp, top 3 scumleans are wv op and sanz. going to try to list the things different criteria than normal to help me think and also because i feel slightly inspired by umineko

Sanzath:

How: Sanzath could be a wolf because despite addressing the post i made where i call him out for it, he still feels like a spectator commenting on the game from the outside. His WIM is fairly low, and the same goes for his game solving.

Why: He's still fairly new and has yet to solidly establish a meta. Why would sanz attach himself to op like he did when he was getting heat. why does he sound like he still doesn't buy into dbp's claim? (this isnt necessarily bad because a healthy bit of skepticism is expected from town imo). he has stated several times hes caught up with the thread yet i see him giving very few original thoughts on the game without being pressured.

Opkiller:

How: OP could be a wolf if his partners are content to let him have a meltdown and not try to reign in his speech. Is blind the type of wolf to micro his teammates or let them do their own thing? Is opkiller the type of wolf to play scared of what people think of his ideas or does he not care? I feel this is extremely important to learn, unfortunately, OP has no wolf games to draw insight from.

Why: As a wolf, what would op have to gain by openly fighting for his partner (blinds) survival? was he actually trying to understand the situation at hand? did his logical progression make sense? A lot of his early points during the day made no sense to me and he has openly shown incompetence at reading and understanding. Language barrier?

WV:

How: WV could be a wolf because hes been slanking for almost the entire game and has almost nothing to read him for. And tbh heres exhibit A of why i like to kill inactives early. Because the longer the game goes on, the more unhelpful they become when we have no room for error.

Why: WV has yet to play a wolf game. He could be slanking to cover his inexperience. The constant catching up is very reminiscent of cel and that is a black mark in my book. what little he has posted has no shown any serious investment. Another person with very low WIM and gamesolving.

Now i have homework tonight when blind dies, and you all should too.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by sanzath

This is one of blind's posts that has me uncertain, because fakeclaiming full vigi in this setup is indeed pretty ballsy. But I'm also seeing these three questions, "Why wouldn't I do _____ instead?", instead of addressing the real point, which should have been: "If I am fakeclaiming, why did I fakeclaim vigi?"

I don't agree there.

You're basically saying that Blind should give reasons why he'd be fakeclaiming vigi.

As town: he's not fakeclaiming so that doesn't make sense
As wolf: saying why he fakeclaimed vigi in particular doesn't make sense either because he'd try to imitate town action which like I said, town wouldnt fakeclaim.

Correct me if I misunderstood something there

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

hey freezin can i get a reads list so i can see where you're at since you took over raekos slot

get fucking destroyed dude

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

i
im the TINIEST bit annoyed that everyone is copying my "want it more" buzzword but thats the main issue with your play right now. You can see DBP's investment in the game, he clearly has a stake in events and his softs are plain as day. You have not tried to expand your horizons very much past loudly arguing with dbp and it shows. Your not invested in towns well-being like he is. combine that with [b]the unlikeliness of the situation you've presented compared to his. To believe your side of events would require a feat of mental gymnastics (both dbp and rbx being wolves and openly showing a connection) and they are too experienced to let something so simple trip them up as wolves. Not going to bank on such a slim chance.

sorry not sorry

finishing my post because it was not done

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm waiting for roundbox.

Other than that, not much to talk about I guess.

Maybe Gradiant's lack of presence here? But I believe he's usually busy nowadays anyways. Or his attraction to mellon's lack of work I suppose.

gradiant have your thoughts on raeko/freezin changed since the replacement?

[FreezinIce]

well i MEANT to bold what i added but w/e

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

I don't agree there.

You're basically saying that Blind should give reasons why he'd be fakeclaiming vigi.

As town: he's not fakeclaiming so that doesn't make sense
As wolf: saying why he fakeclaimed vigi in particular doesn't make sense either because he'd try to imitate town action which like I said, town wouldnt fakeclaim.

Correct me if I misunderstood something there

My point isn't that he should have answered that question

My point is that he probably could have asked that question, instead of the ones he did

I mean the questions seem very similar, but asking "Why wouldn't I fakeclaim ___ or ___ or ___ instead?" betrays a mentality that he was going to fakeclaim, in a way that asking "Why would I fakeclaim vigi?" doesn't really do