TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

[blindreper1179]

I went back and did an ISO on sans, since he's one the most unsure for me.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Based on past games, you should probably wolfread me if I'm still alive by then

Makes a call out like this, which I find odd for a newer player

Originally Posted by sanzath

I figured it out

yoshl is the wolf!!!

Put a vote on a town

Originally Posted by sanzath

sanzath



in case cel's vote doesn't make it through, I've got him covered

I know self voting is a thing on ffr, but I feel like a new town player would be hesitant of doing such a thing.

Originally Posted by sanzath

opKiller doing math

lock town

I found it odd to make a "lock clear" for something like this.

Originally Posted by sanzath

step 1 - lynch the wolves
step 2 - nightkill the wolves
step 3 - win
step 4 - celebrate

Step 2 bothers me even if it was a shit post.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Still doing my reread & taking notes while keeping up with thread, this strikes me as kinda scummy, I guess it makes sense in the context of being unable to post a lot but I don't like it when people ask others to ask them questions

sorry cel

Calls out cel being scummy because he asked to to be asked questions. He wasn't wrong here this time.

Originally Posted by sanzath

mindmeld as fuck

Originally Posted by sanzath

Damnit wv, we've been bamboozled

This is probably why xiz called opk town



however that interaction (and that post specifically) felt really off

I'm starting to think w/w is a thing

These two he mindmelds with WV, and calls out OPK and xiz a w/w team.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Maybe? When he posted his "I think I get you" @xiz I understood immediately what he was referring to and it made sense to me, until op started posting the way he did

I'm still rereading thread for notes and saw something interesting, and knew wv and I were on the same page on that subject so I pointed it out to him

Here he backs up WV and understood what he meant automatically.

Originally Posted by sanzath

read the setup

I'll probably explain personally later in the game if I'm still alive by then

I don't think he ever explained. Broken promises are usually wolves trying to look good previously in the game.

Originally Posted by sanzath

anyway tbh the little I've seen from manti feels pretty gross, but xiz is probably a good lynch too

Here he votes manti and says xiz is a good lynch too which we now know is between two town, doesn't look good.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Ugh, my bad, I was remembering it as the other way around

Here he "remembered" wrong about the letter set up, when it takes a minute to double check the letter roll scenarios.

Originally Posted by sanzath

I've done enough accidental dumbtells as town that I think that would be something I'd try as wolf >

Here he's upset that he's being read town because of a dumbtell. Which I feel is towny, but i think that's why he did it.

Originally Posted by sanzath

to be fair, I don't know for opk but in my case it's probably that I've played few enough games that I still have a memory for individual posts

Anyway now that you're back to posting instead of RPing as your past self, I don't really have any reason to townlean you anymore

Why read someone town for a gimmick like that, and then NOT read him town for actually playing the game?

Originally Posted by sanzath

Oh yeah, gonna get this out of the way too before going to bed

Since Xiz flipped VT, this is obviously wrong, but it was my thought process and I'm 100% certain it was WV's too





WV's post made me look back at what Xiz said, the way he worded it with such confidence made me think Xiz/Opk rolled Mason together - and the way WV responded made me thing this was his conclusion too

Obviously posting bluereads is bad so I didn't want to go into specifics about what I thought was happening, so I mostly just hinted that I thought I knew what was happening

But then Opk went and posted this





Which made me realize it was probably wrong, because if it was right then opkiller wouldn't be so goddamn confused on the matter



^Further indication that I was mindmelding like fuck with WV - at least for the first part -, and fuck me if it looks like I'm sheeping (or pocketing??) WV super hard

A little later after I'd basically dismissed the theory due to Opk's reactions, while doing my reread, I saw the post that was likely the actual reason for Xiz reading Opk as town with such confidence



... Which I posted, specifically @WV because I was certain we had the same thought process on the entire thing and I figured he might be interested in the post as well

Which then led to Yoshl calling me a sheep and you claiming I was pocketing WV, rip

Anyway I'm posting this now mostly for opkiller's benefit since he was super confused on WV's thought process (although I think dbp and charu were confused too), and I guess to make it clear exactly where I was coming from with some of my cryptic posts near eod

Here is a long ass post defending WV. ~More connections~

Originally Posted by sanzath

I'm not used to catching up to thread this quickly

He caught up, and then had nothing of importance to say.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Back from being afk for 1.5 hours

That was a really fucking stupid conversation and I really don't think wv and charu are wolves together at this point

Has been mindmelding with WV the entire game, and then says he doesn't THINK WV/charu are a team? That's inconsistent.

Originally Posted by sanzath

how hard you were were pushing on WV for something that I thought was obvious from the get-go, and how hard of a time you were having understanding what WV was trying to explain

To quote blind, I felt like that conversation went in a circle tbh

and then right after defends WV again???????

Originally Posted by sanzath

oh

oooooohhhhh

GOOD point

Sans said the reason they were fighting was pointless, and charu called it out saying it wasn't because xiz flipped town.

Originally Posted by sanzath

since you're here charu bird



is this still a thing and is it still for the same reason?

Quickly wants to confirm if charu was still reading him town.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Do you think so?



I mean this was probably a shitpost, but it makes me think anti-town blind would lead a ML on manti rather than use a NK on him

Questions Rounds logic that I mentioned in my ISO of roundbox.

Originally Posted by sanzath

HERE I AM

Kinda shitty but I don't have that long that I can play each day. I'll be here until EOD but I'll only be able to get a few hours in over the weekend (assuming I'm still alive ofc, if wolves could just nk me that would be great tbh)

Anyway still catching up

Same thing roundbox did. "hey, I'm in thread, but I'm not going to do anything."

Originally Posted by sanzath

Hello yes what are your thoughts on blind?

Originally Posted by sanzath

And since I'm doing this

Blind, what are your thoughts on dbp?

Towny points asking even though it's kinda been discusssed.

Originally Posted by sanzath

I'd like to know why you think Blind would absolutely have NK'd Manti if he was wolf

I mean, remember he has to make that decision with 1-2 other wolves

Asks round about his logic and all round answers with it ~FEARKILL~

Originally Posted by sanzath

speaking of which, most of my tinfoils are about the wrong colour

Here's a red tinfoil though -
Blind and dbp had essentially 0 interactions d0, besides blind reading dbp as town for meta reasons, and then dbp reading blind as town because of his readslist

Kinda weird how the very first thing they had to say about each other was "hey this guy looks town"

Off the wall tinfoil, which actually has merit. DBP and I didn't have much convo on D0.

Originally Posted by sanzath

[tinfoil intensifies]

Throws this out there when DBP says I'd be a good lynch.

Originally Posted by sanzath

wolves aren't being obvious enough right now

Yeah, they never are.... This was a push for some towny cred.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Nobody has said I'm wrong, I'm probably right, I'll roll with that



Charu - I'm having a hard time deciding if he's towny or scummy, so, maybe?
I haven't taken much time to look at Freezin, but I did think raeko was kinda scummy so
WV I'm leaving off the table right now because of our mindmelds yesterday + his reactions seem genuine to me
Manti, was scummy d0 but not so sure anymore, I'll have to iso this
op - I feel like opk/charu might be a thing right now actually, nightkill me if I'm wrong please

Listed off a reads on the people voting at the time after the above post.

Originally Posted by sanzath

I'll go for what my gut's telling me to do, I guess

charu

Gut said to vote the cop, which I don't think he knew, but I think he knew he wasn't scum.

Originally Posted by sanzath

And if roundbox is secretly pocketing me it's fucking working

distancing???

Originally Posted by sanzath

Actually a scumlean

His early interactions with opk kinda early felt weird to me, don't think I have time for quotes but basically, a specific example was how he
#595 - calls out opk for talking about the potential of an SK so early
#596 - immediately defends him for it?
And there was another post almost right after that where he was like "alright bois, tear opk to shreds!"

Calls charu scum for the mentioned posts above.

Originally Posted by sanzath

Not sure either of blind/manti are good lynches tbh

First town/town lynch he didn't like.




After doing this, I'm more sure of sans being wolf again. He hasn't had good voting, he's attached himself to WV. It looks like a pocket in my point of view. I have a good feeling to vote either sans or round with confidence. I don't see myself right now going somewhere else.

[blindreper1179]

I'm sorry I'm taking my time trying to figure the game out. We don't have room for error.

[DaBackpack]

blind, give me a snap judgment on opkiller please, no need for an iso

[DaBackpack]

I'm kind of tired of waiting

[DaBackpack]

freezin, you can go ahead with your thing as well

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

We don't have room for error.

I disagree, I think this lynch is in the bag

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

blind, give me a snap judgment on opkiller please, no need for an iso

I'm thinking he's scum. He's been on both lynches thus far. I feel he could be the wolf with the usual lynching tactic while the others are more secretive.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I disagree, I think this lynch is in the bag

whenever you are ready ~DeTeCtIvE~

[DaBackpack]

freezin, go ahead, and then I'll show my ~reasoning~

[DaBackpack]

else, give me the go-ahead

[FreezinIce]

well my post was going to be long and awesome with pics and stuff but now i guess ill shrink it into a short overview mr cranky

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

well my post was going to be long and awesome with pics and stuff but now i guess ill shrink it into a short overview mr cranky

I'm not cranky, I'm just impatient

[DaBackpack]

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[DaBackpack]

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Charu

WAIT, AM I IN KITB?!?

There's no damn way 3 town voted Charu after that I mean srsly that'd be the most retarded lynch, and with what he'd contributed at eod.

Blind if you read me scum, pick at least 1 between DBP/Gradient/Roundbox

You said Gradient is town to you. So either DBP or Roundbox

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

charu

Originally Posted by Gradiant

charu

Originally Posted by roundbox

charu

All at the last fucking minute.

Please

[DaBackpack]

this crowd is much better

[xXOpkillerXx]

The suspense is pretty hot~

[DaBackpack]

I'm losing my boner hurry up freezin

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Actually fuck that did you just fuck up there ? You were hesitating between 2 blue and you also voted Charu super late with little reasoning actually.

Looking like you're scrambling for stuff.
At the time, there was reasoning for votes on either blind or manti. Then manti makes these which i dont' think come from a wolf:

Originally Posted by LightManticorex2

If you guys are gonna make me a wagon every day, just kill me so you can validate my reads. Having a wagon between me and xiz, and following it up with me/blind is a shitty data pool and you know it.

Originally Posted by LightManticorex2

This is my legacy. Use it well.

And give me a votecount!

He then made this though which pissed me off because the whole premise is false;it's giving off the idea he was the only one doing work:

Originally Posted by LightManticorex2

Then we shoulda done more work during the day phase. Ya'll let me control a whole day phase without adding much for me to work with.

Immediately after that, blind claims so my vote is going to either manti or charu and i finally gut decide on charu because of the earlier thoughts on manti's two quotes I had above I don't think coming from a wolf.

If you didn't see my reasoning on charu that whole phase and then that last post regarding him when going through looking for stuff to quote, then you're nitpicking just to find shit to fling