TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[Wayward Vagabond]

Soundwave is playing like he was in ltwg but he hasn't posted enough. I'm not even sure if his ltwg game is the same as his forum game

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Looks trashy for hard defending tilco, yet not voting the wagon that would save him (light). A disconnect between words and actions.

Need to reread to see what his lightknight read was.

I want to kill tiloco first to see if there's a link there.

Tokzic did not have a Light read as far as I am aware of. I just ISO'd him earlier.

Originally Posted by tiloco217

Honestly I feel like you just really don't want to be wrong so you're sticking with not liking me from our interaction half way through day 0. You could just be mafia but I'm pretty sure you're a bullheaded town

He's always bullheaded as town.

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

There's only one thing in life I hate more than being wrong, and it's other people being wrong.

See when I'm wrong, it fucking sucks. But at least I got nobody to blame but myself. I can sit in the corner and take it like a man.

But when somebody else fucks up, it sucks just as much.

You can't take the blame for that shit. You got to stick it to them.

I don't like doing that. I don't like being that guy.

But there's some fuck ups here, and it looks like I gotta do something about it.

THEN DO IT YOU LAZY BASTARD

Originally Posted by Celirra

tbh I'd rather kill freezin than xiz right now but hey that's just me! I don't think xiz is particularly scummy!

Do not kill Freezin are you fucking mad

Originally Posted by Tokzic

pretty cool how you don't include xel in this list after voting for him at eod, you'd think you'd remember that one

He was talking about Roundbox's reads.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Honest question

Do you think xel is the best chance for hitting a wolf today due to this?

It does look like he's signalling it out. I, too, kind of read it as a possible claim (I don't remember you doing it before, sorry) but the correct play here is to NOT SAY ANYTHING.

Originally Posted by inDheart

people are allowed to change their reads and the thing i like about tokzic posting that is he basically owned the fact there's no progression to it

the main reason i'm commenting on this is because a tokzic wagon appears to be a real possibility right now but this is not a reason i like for you being on it

Dude did you see the case I made on him or you still catching up? I ISO'd him to see were that read came from, got a meh answer from his past post and then he waltzes in here and changes it -again- for no reason. I ask him way and he answers with something I can't check, ie "I didn't post it"

And you don't like mebeing on it? I fucking made that push to start.



STILL CATCHING UP GUYS GONNA SKIM AND THEN JOIN THE PRESENT FOR EOD

[blindreper1179]

lar

I don't like that lar and I are on the same person.

though tokzic, you should explain yourself based on the reason I voted you please. I had a good reason to vote you but Lar being there is a bad tell. He's either distancing or tokz is town and Lars knows it, or they're both town and I'm way off, which I doubt.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

lar

I don't like that lar and I are on the same person.

though tokzic, you should explain yourself based on the reason I voted you please. I had a good reason to vote you but Lar being there is a bad tell. He's either distancing or tokz is town and Lars knows it, or they're both town and I'm way off, which I doubt.

Blind, this is a weird headspace.

You voted for tokzic after MML did, and now you want to hop off because Lar hasn't moved?

[FreezinIce]

yo blind i respect the hustle dude

but lar is town here could you base your reads on something else

[DarkManticoreX2]

What happens if I dabackpack

[tiloco217]

Day 0 Cel called Xiz sketchy but decided that his conversation with freezin was enough to be ok. I asked him to elaborate and it was very much a gut read. He has yet to even look at Xiz Day 1 and has gone on record saying he isn't particularly scummy.

He hasn't said much at all about Tokzic. The only things that I found were talking about how he could possibly be in a world with me.

I also think that Cel has become more scummy as this day has progressed. His read on me seems to be flipping for very little reason.

I don't think that Cel is the lynch today but he is definitely viable a spot in the world with Xiz and Tokzic

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Blind, this is a weird headspace.

You voted for tokzic after MML did, and now you want to hop off because Lar hasn't moved?

He voted a long ass time ago, and I forgot. I noticed with suns new updated vote count.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

What happens if I dabackpack

What?

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

yo blind i respect the hustle dude

but lar is town here could you base your reads on something else

no

Maybe

ok no

[inDheart]

people talking about haku in relative order in the first 400 posts:

mml says town though continues to get frustrated with him
xel says "what the fuck...you trying to earn some town points"
mellon says haku's the only one saying things of value
sound has a confusingly worded townread he develops later
xiz 265 "I don't know how I want to read this. Because it's haku I want to read this as town but I think if anyone else said this I would read this as mafia."
blind 267 "Is there trying too hard in the beginning, because I feel that Haku is trying too hard."
-> freezin then brings up meta in response
xel 273 "gonna pop in mention I think Haku is actually not on the table today at all"
manti 277 begins a scumread (or at least enough to put a vote down): "Lets put an opening vote on Hakulyte!

I think Haku is getting a bunch of early town reads off of bringing up the prior "fire emblem" themed game. Despite his points about OOC comms and flashflash's role matching up with the prior game being correct, nothing of value was really added until we have more information.

The big thing that bugs me right now is that the early effort posting generated him some town reads, and it was followed up by:

The first line seems like a slimy effort to frontload townreads into going under the radar when it matters."
sound 286 also citing haku meta
tokzic 301 is a Haku Townreader but "can maybe see" manti's push
mml 326 gives a read: "1) Hakulyte
Liked his entrance and at first was willing to give him a pass, but lately he seems way too overly defensive/desperate in his post. See above responses to him. Anyway he gets to stay on the table."

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

He voted a long ass time ago, and I forgot. I noticed with suns new updated vote count.

This is not the answer I was looking for because when you say ^^^ i hear:

"Lar and I came to the same vote naturally, and I don't like it because he got the same answer"

Its weird.

[tiloco217]

Originally Posted by Xiz

It's pretty much just that, but to me those interactions still outweigh quantity. I haven't voted you yet, and am rethinking about DBP because I might just be wrong. I'm getting paranoid because 3 of my town reads are with me on Tokzic but I'm starting to second guess it.

Yes, you have contributed a lot. I might be wrong, I don't think so yet. The votes at the end of d1 I think desperately need to be looked at, and it's more obvious then this day has been

This answer is trash by the way. There are so many things to be reading me off of and you are reading me with an association based on votes and a read that could apply to anyone (anyone could have read that you thought Haku was a pr. I don't know why that read is specific to me). You should at least have an opinion on my alignment based on my play but you don't because you don't actually care

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Dude did you see the case I made on him or you still catching up? I ISO'd him to see were that read came from, got a meh answer from his past post and then he waltzes in here and changes it -again- for no reason. I ask him way and he answers with something I can't check, ie "I didn't post it"

And you don't like mebeing on it? I fucking made that push to start.

didn't i quote your case?

i can look at it again though

[blindreper1179]

Ok, inD, you're town as fuck.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Ok, inD, you're town as fuck.

hey vote xel with me?

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

This answer is trash by the way. There are so many things to be reading me off of and you are reading me with an association based on votes and a read that could apply to anyone (anyone could have read that you thought Haku was a pr. I don't know why that read is specific to me). You should at least have an opinion on my alignment based on my play but you don't because you don't actually care

If you expect me to read you based off how you want me to read you, you are very deeply mistaken.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

This is not the answer I was looking for because when you say ^^^ i hear:

"Lar and I came to the same vote naturally, and I don't like it because he got the same answer"

Its weird.

I understand what you're saying and if that's true, it is weird. but I don't think Lars was natural. That's the difference.

But I'd rather him go than tiloco so if I am a saving vote, I'd use it on tokzic.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

My deflection is getting old? DBP is the only one I've ever tried to push a lynch away from. What about that deflection is particularly scummy? You seem to be confident that the world is me and tokzic but tokzic is hard on DBP so am I trying to defend my partner who is getting hard bussed? Am I trying to stop my mafia partner's counter wagon? What is your thought process here? That might have been the scummiest post you've had this game.

I'm getting more and more confident in a world of Xiz and Tokzic being partners. I think that Xiz wants to sacrifice his partner that isn't really trying in order to get me because he knows I'll never get off of him. This also probably means that the rest of my reads are pretty accurate or at least were when he started going on about how tokzic being red means that I'm red.

This reads ike you are desperate tbh
I mean, people here do bus. Charu and Haku did it, I coud see Xel doing it although I can't recall a game that he did but I don't know if Xiz would.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Tiloco, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and just ask.

Do you and tokzic have some sort of OOC chat gimmick?

This is not a pro town question THIS IS SO NOT A PRO TOWN QUESTION

Originally Posted by Xiz

Can someone talk to me about DbP

He showed some effort d0 and is falling apart now. It's a little sad

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

You smell that stench from tokzics wagon?


Thats the smell of a mislynch peeps

I'm starting to agree. Blind jumped on there and I'm reading blind scum. [twgv]unvote[/unvote]

[Xiz]

And I clearly stated what I think of you but you choose not to read my thoughts.