TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

@inDheart:
VC, please

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Here. Also see what I said to him between there and here as well for bonus context.

Someone new shouldn't feel like that was the bet kill from a town perspective methinks.

Can
People
Stop
Twisting
My
Points?

I never said it was the best kill. I never said it was an obvious kill. I said I can see why it would happen. It is not a "wtf" kill. AA agreed. sunfan agreed. If you're going to push this as town, you'll reap what you sow.

[Hakulyte]

Self-made VC.

Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
2 -- TWG Jade Harley -- AragakiAyase (42), Prophylaxis (4)
2 -- Sunfan -- MML(??), Haku(??)
1 -- AragakiAyase -- ShadoWolfe (2)
5 -- not voting -- , roundbox (0), thesunfan (15), TWG Jade Harley (9), Witch of Certainty (12), XelNya (0)

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

...Because I wanted to show how I had answered your questions already and you completely ignored that despite claiming to have caught up?

You might not have been tested on rather or not you already answered but how you where going to answer me

You might also have sort of failed the test


Face it as a town it's way more natural to just hammer out "I already said that I feel Char x y and z you fucker" then try to go back and find what you said. Whenever I see town quote themselves it's always after they've taken that step already and are still being pushed.


Like I said you've done it all game it was an easy thing to notice. If I simply wanted that answer I would have just hammered out "fair enough" and moved on, but the way you defend yourself doesn't seem right and hasn't all game.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I guess this posts is guilty of assuming SunFan is a wolf in that "AA and his DPB vote" part, looking back.

I think the chances that SunFan is a wolf are high (voted him) but I guess what I need to make clear is they are likely never partners

I doubt they are partners, but it is interesting to note how closely Witch is tied to the both of them at this juncture.
Between sunfan's defense and AA's saving vote, Witch doesn't look too good.
I could definitely see town sunfan making that defense, though. It's something I had been saying since earlier in the phase, so it's not a big stretch imo that those were his real thoughts on it. To clarify: thoughts being that all the scumleans on Witch were likely due to a conflict in style and meta resulting in a negative view due to unfamiliarity.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

If you're going to push this as town, you'll reap what you sow.

Do you have me as a townlean?

I mean I guess you must you don't have any scum leans lol but hey clarify that for me without using a quote if you please would

[Hakulyte]

hi Xelnya.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You might not have been tested on rather or not you already answered but how you where going to answer me

You might also have sort of failed the test


Face it as a town it's way more natural to just hammer out "I already said that I feel Char x y and z you fucker" then try to go back and find what you said. Whenever I see town quote themselves it's always after they've taken that step already and are still being pushed.


Like I said you've done it all game it was an easy thing to notice. If I simply wanted that answer I would have just hammered out "fair enough" and moved on, but the way you defend yourself doesn't seem right and hasn't all game.

And this is why judging by what is more "natural" is idiotic.

It was not just defending myself, it was calling your claim of being caught up BS.

I've done it all game, really? Please show me how I've only responded to things by quoting myself.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Do you have me as a townlean?

I mean I guess you must you don't have any scum leans lol but hey clarify that for me without using a quote if you please would

Pretty sure if you'd read my post of thoughts, you'd know I did.
Maybe I should quote it for you? :]

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Here. Also see what I said to him between there and here as well for bonus context.

Someone new shouldn't feel like that was the bet kill from a town perspective methinks.

Hmm. I agree with her in that mellon was likely the vigi kill, and I see where she could plausibly "make a couple guesses" as to Charu's "wolfkill". He was townread by a large majority, and was playing an exceptionally protown EoD.
I think even a new player can feel like that was a good kill.
Besides, if you truly think she shouldn't have thought Charu was the best kill, then you're essentially saying you don't think she's a wolf after all. (or, at least, not a wolf who's say had a role in the kill)

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

Please show me how I've only responded to things by quoting myself.

Remind me to do this later I'm really am going to waffle house now.


Also Haku can you try to solve the fucking game and not blindly sheep me kthx

[MixMasterLar]

Ok one last one because it's important

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Besides, if you truly think she shouldn't have thought Charu was the best kill, then you're essentially saying you don't think she's a wolf after all. (or, at least, not a wolf who's say had a role in the kill)

If she is town then she should be a little more in the dark because nothing happenedfor her overnight

If she is wolf she has probably had it explained to her overnight and wasn't the wolf making the choice.

That's where I am coming from.

[MixMasterLar]

waffle house for real got my shoes on and shit and walking out the door. Posted way more then I intended lol but whatever

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Also Haku can you try to solve the fucking game and not blindly sheep me kthx

Maybe tomorrow when there's more people around. My only plan for tonight was to reread the thread and try to make some sense out of these flips.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Ok one last one because it's important



If she is town then she should be a little more in the dark because nothing happenedfor her overnight

If she is wolf she has probably had it explained to her overnight and wasn't the wolf making the choice.

That's where I am coming from.

See, I think she's wolf as an extension of AA (or possibly sunfan), and because she's contributed little in the way of any real scumleans.
I think the argument made here that she "should be more in the dark if she is town" is invalid, though, because Charu was widely townread and would've been a tough mislynch after that EoD. "She" said she's played Mafia for 3(?) Years. It's definitely plausible that she would know that scum target widely townread people (or vigi suspects), whether or not she's familiar with charu himself.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

waffle house for real got my shoes on and shit and walking out the door. Posted way more then I intended lol but whatever

Peace out bro, enjoy waffle house.

[Hakulyte]

I may end up not sleeping and actually writing a wall.

I feel like no one will kill/lynch me this entire game.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

See, I think she's wolf as an extension of AA (or possibly sunfan), and because she's contributed little in the way of any real scumleans.

So in other words, you think I'm a wolf as an extension of AA...not voting me when he had the chance, when that would fit his given stances and help soldify his position?
Or are you saying AA is a wolf who for some reason decided to pull a fairly obvious save of a partner at the last second?
And I'm really getting sick of the "no scumleans" case. Multiple people have explained why that's dumb. Please, just stop.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I may end up not sleeping and actually writing a wall.

I feel like no one will kill/lynch me this entire game.

...
On this note, I'm going to bed.
G'night Haku. Try to sleep.
Looking forward to AA's responses in the morning. I'd like everyone to pay close attention to them. Don't gloss them over or give them a pass: these responses should be very alignment indicative regardless of what approach he takes tomorrow or what he tries to project.
G'night.

[Hakulyte]

G'night Shado. \o
Don't worry, I'll try to not end the phase before you're back.
(even if I really want to)