TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[Prophylaxis]

WHY DOES THIS THREAD EXPLODE EVERY TIME I TRY TO CATCH UP ON IT

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

my opinion wasn't asked for on this but if it helps us move past this point, I agree with AA that there's no real meaningful difference between these terms

at least, not on this forum

I disagree. It may be recent, but there's a definite distinction.

Our reads lists since at least Egregious Miscalculations have featured

Townread
Townlean

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I disagree. It may be recent, but there's a definite distinction.

Our reads lists since at least Egregious Miscalculations have featured

Townread
Townlean

wait seriously????????? what did I miss

why does this exist?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Charu, you mind quoting this message when you get back in thread? Thanks.

here u go

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I don't have a concrete case for why xel is scum outside of what I've told you:

he's meh this game to me (this is a meta read and you'll have to deal with it)
his focus on people townreading shado is very strange and I'm not really following how it comes from a town perspective. he had a post where he said something along the lines of "I don't see how anyone can be wolfreading shado besides mellon/raeko"

do I need more? I think it'd be nice, but no, I don't think I need more.

yes, I can convince people to scumread and lynch people without what you'd consider a case. literally one scummy post is all you need to get people lynched in some cases, it's really not that hard. I did it to MML as he just mentioned off of one post that I made and his one post response (or in this case, the lack of a response) and lynched him. see? not hard.

I'm not so stupid to just scumread someone because they straight up aren't there, but when people actively avoid questions that are generating the pressure then it's nagl and generally turns into a scumread, yes. town generally have an easier time answering questions than wolves do so it's more effective than you might think

So outside the quotes you say are trying to protect and disassociate himself from Shado, as I understand you're saying, essentially your read is "he's meh". Just like the read sunfan had, and withdrew, while you said you were keeping to it and referred to those quotes.
So those quotes are why you're voting him now, and your read of them is being challenged.
You can build a case off of one post and the lack of an appropiate response, I won't dispute that lol
My point is that I don't see even that much. And pending your defending your read of Xel, I might say you don't either.

I ackowledged that already.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

I find it concerning as well that you said that Xel/Charu are your strongest scumreads, but your vote isn't on either of them. Why is that?

what

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

what

this was in response to Jade Harley, I just quoted your post to show that Jade was mostly asking questions that were already being asked/the answer was already in the thread.

[ShadoWolfe]

Unpopular opinion:

I strongly believe there is a wolf in sunfan/AA. I thought it was sunfan, but AAs been kinda throwing me off since yesterday (yes, I did call him out on potentially deliberate misreadings even then).

I think it's unlikely that either of them get lynched before me, but I strongly encourage town to pursue them after my eventual demise.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

which one is strongest aside from me, the lean on backpack or the lean on AA?

Backpack now, slightly, for the reason I gave, but AA is doing more now, so it can easily change. The Xel issue might hold that back however.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Unpopular opinion:

I strongly believe there is a wolf in sunfan/AA. I thought it was sunfan, but AAs been kinda throwing me off since yesterday (yes, I did call him out on potentially deliberate misreadings even then).

I think it's unlikely that either of them get lynched before me, but I strongly encourage town to pursue them after my eventual demise.

To specify: I don't think it's likely that they're wolves together based on earlier interactions that took place yesterday morning/afternoon (this is an estimate), but I could be wrong.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

this was in response to Jade Harley, I just quoted your post to show that Jade was mostly asking questions that were already being asked/the answer was already in the thread.

No, I mean I didn't give any scum reads, and had Charu as a town lean in that post??

[Hakulyte]

I strongly believe that Shado is imploding right now~

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

No, I mean I didn't give any scum reads, and had Charu as a town lean in that post??

Wait, no, sorry, dumb moment.

[Prophylaxis]

i feel like the general sentiment of the thread right now is "we have too many townreads"

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

wait seriously????????? what did I miss

why does this exist?

I'm being serious here btw

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

I've been one of the least active players so far. Why are you townreading me based on activity of all things?

I liked your content.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

here u go

Thanks!

So, much earlier in this phase, I said "100¢ says Charu's a wolf".
Your immediate response was to bring up your "scumtell", before later reacting in a more normal way.

Why is that scumtell the first thing that came to your mind? It occurs to me that, if I were a wolf and someone who claimed to have a scumtell on me correctly called me out as a wolf, I would immediately remember their scumtell.
Could you elaborate on your thought process there? I can go back and find the posts, if you'd like.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm being serious here btw

Simply put, a read is something you'd argue and prove, a lean is just a sense or gut feeling.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I strongly believe that Shado is imploding right now~

Really? This is the sharpest I've felt all game.
I'm still waiting on you to respond to my questions regarding your vote, btw.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

i feel like the general sentiment of the thread right now is "we have too many townreads"

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm bored, have a questionable read list by me.

1. XelNya <- Mysterious Bird (scum lean on iso)
2. Charu <- Town - Solved fmpov - Won't be touched until like Day 3+
3. AragakiAyase <- Null City (alternative scum if Shado flips town/alternative town if Shado flips wolf)
4. MixMasterLar <- Town - Solved fmpov
5. Prophylaxis <- Town (based on activity)
6. roundbox <- Town (based on iso)
7. ShadoWolfe <- Null City (alternative town if AA flips wolf/alternative wolf if AA flips town)
8. mellonxcollie <- Town tone read, weak content. (should be revisited from time to time)
9. Witch of Certainty <- Mysterious Witch - Null - (Post More Syndrome)
10. TWG Jade Harley <- Town tone read, arguably weak content like raeko. (potential open deep wolf, but I won't consider until D1+)
11. thesunfan <- Null City. Worth considering if Xel/Shado not wolf
12. DaBackpack <- Somewhere between Null and Town. (I'm not sure how to weight youtube vids vs content.)
13. Hakulyte <- Definitely a wolf and should be killed to prevent the apocalypse.

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