TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

these reads are a-ok I think

What the part where he openly sheeps you?
They might proove accurate reads but they ain't good reads friend.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I think(?) it makes sense for Witch to be sheeping me on Xel more as town, I think wolves don't usually want to tie themselves to a town, right?

What

What is pocketing then?

What logic this this? You know better then that.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Okay wow

Would it be the first time?

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Lar is trending from null to town to me. His posts from last night seem well thought out and give reasoning on every player in his reads list. Also his questions to people seemed like they came from a natural read of the thread

Can you explain what I did differently to warrant a town read? As one of (if not the) first players to make a reads lists I don't think me continuing to do that in itself should change that much from your perspective.

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

I don't think wolves can't be aggressive, I think wolves don't provoke someone into a high-tension fight out of nowhere. Pushing a target, no, pushing someone that could put up a fight, no, but being sarcastic and actively pushing someone into making a scene with you at the center? Yes, I don't think wolves do that.

dem double negatives

I think with that assumption time will prove you wrong.

...Is it really hard to accept that you asked me for what posts I liked to support my having that thought and I provided those posts? Here, maybe this is what you're missing. Liking things is not some solid deductive process, it's saying I like the thoughts and approach I saw, which helps me give a town lean. Not an analysis, not necessarily agreeing, but I like them.



You responded to my full thoughts list (including on sunfan) soon after I posted it to start this discussion.

1-I do ask for posts, that's not what I was talking about though.

2-Holy shit that was the -full- thoughts on SunFan? Eww

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

Assuming NL's are avoided here, however, guide me again? @thesunfan

eewwwwwwww

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

No, nothing stands out to me as scummy enough to vote right now.

eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

There is not one single person in this group of 13 people who you think is possibly a wolf right now?

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

one more thing: why do people have to be "scummy enough" to vote? why can't you just pressure vote people, or vote people you have a mild suspicion of? voting people doesn't mean they'll definitely be lynched, in fact it often doesn't even mean you're scumreading them. and what is "scummy enough" anyways?

It honestly makes me believe they are pretty new to the game. When I started, I didn't really like making votes throughout the day for whatever reason and I've noticed newer players just tend not to.

[ShadoWolfe]

Roundbooxxxxxxxxxx
I want your noootesss
I'm starting to fear that you're not heeere

[thesunfan]

it was basically what Charu said earlier for the most part; he's trying REALLY hard so I'm a lot more inclined to just say "ok fine geez"

part of it is because of his response to initial pressure where he went for the logical approach instead of the emotional approach, and he seems to be paying a lot of attention (noticing the thing Xel did that no one else did)

also, if he's a wolf, I know I will catch him, so he either has to kill me or attempt to outtalk me later, and I think he doesn't think he can outtalk me.

[MixMasterLar]

Witch trending downward for me

Xel's kind of still where he was at but I liked his response to me ok and it looks like he's trying to catch up now so who knows maybe he'll churn out some good stuff

Originally Posted by XelNya

getting up early is probably a waste of my time but, time to try and catch up I guess.

....but not with that attitude.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

hot read: I think there's a wolf in witch/mellon, witch being far more likely

I can agree with this.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I like how Xel got all the unvotes and I still have no clue what's he's doing.

whatever.

#NotAllUnvotes

[thesunfan]

yeah I don't think we have the same reason(s) for not lynching Shado

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I know I will catch him, so he either has to kill me or attempt to outtalk me later, and I think he doesn't think he can outtalk me.

I don't think you want to talk in a way which assumes that you're going to be alive tomorrow.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

also, if he's a wolf, I know I will catch him, so he either has to kill me or attempt to outtalk me later, and I think he doesn't think he can outtalk me.

What are you saying here? It's almost like if you don't die in the night then Xel is clear unless I'm reading that wrong

In which case explain it to me please

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

it was basically what Charu said earlier for the most part; he's trying REALLY hard so I'm a lot more inclined to just say "ok fine geez"

part of it is because of his response to initial pressure where he went for the logical approach instead of the emotional approach, and he seems to be paying a lot of attention (noticing the thing Xel did that no one else did)

also, if he's a wolf, I know I will catch him, so he either has to kill me or attempt to outtalk me later, and I think he doesn't think he can outtalk me.

ok cool glad we're on the same track, at this point I'm willing to quote V with respect to me in A&A: "regardless of his alignment he deserves a pass today for WIM if nothing else"

[MixMasterLar]

Oh you're talking about Shado my bad


Wait


Yeah same question, SunFan

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

yeah I don't think we have the same reason(s) for not lynching Shado

lmao

[thesunfan]

lar, can you stop using the phrase "you know better"
I don't think you're a bad player, but I think you're still greener at this game than the text Freezin was using earlier.

Its minorly tilting to see you say things like "you know better" when I don't think you have the experience to say that.

If it was just one instance I wouldn't care but its becoming a thing

[AragakiAyase]

REALLY HOT (tinfoil) READ INCOMING

witch and sunfan are both wolves, witch is sheeping a partner to reduce accountability and sunfan is using it as an excuse to townread them

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

ok cool glad we're on the same track, at this point I'm willing to quote V with respect to me in A&A: "regardless of his alignment he deserves a pass today for WIM if nothing else"

yeah but that's only the first part
I guess you would've been surprised if I had a different reason, but that's basically the only valid reason for not wanting to lynch someone you think hasn't been very townie on the first day

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I don't think you want to talk in a way which assumes that you're going to be alive tomorrow.

?!

[AragakiAyase]

by the way (and I will repeat this at EOD)

PSA REGARDING CLAIMS: If the vigi ever claims and is not the real vigi, real vigi DO NOT CC

just shoot them in the face

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Oh you're talking about Shado my bad


Wait


Yeah same question, SunFan

I'm saying that I think that Shado is in a bad place if he's a wolf
few people have the drive to continue posting in the manner in which he is likely to continue posting based on interactions and shit this game, and that's as both alignments, it gets even harder for wolves.

I feel like I can read him based on two different tells (one I only noticed in lTWG so I'm not positive it'll hold up and I haven't had the chance to see it yet), so he does have to take a chance if he's a wolf between killing me and attempting to get townread by me.

Shado is not clear if I live through the night, and he shouldn't be damned if I die, but if he's a wolf and I'm here tomorrow, I'm supremely confident I can dunk on him.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

lar, can you stop using the phrase "you know better"
I don't think you're a bad player, but I think you're still greener at this game than the text Freezin was using earlier.

Its minorly tilting to see you say things like "you know better" when I don't think you have the experience to say that.

If it was just one instance I wouldn't care but its becoming a thing

Is that all you have to say in response to me or will there be more?

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

REALLY HOT (tinfoil) READ INCOMING

witch and sunfan are both wolves, witch is sheeping a partner to reduce accountability and sunfan is using it as an excuse to townread them

I mean, not like there's anything right now that contradicts this. I already pointed out that Witch seems like a newer player so this idea fits.

It could also be SunFan is town and Witch is sheeping a town in a pocket attempt+not wanting to be accountable. This is slightly more believable because of the 24/7 wolfchat thing.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Can you explain what I did differently to warrant a town read? As one of (if not the) first players to make a reads lists I don't think me continuing to do that in itself should change that much from your perspective.

It also has to do with the way you are commenting on various things in the thread and asking questions to a lot of people, kinda like the post I am responding to. It's just a town lean since you were pretty null for me before, but I wouldn't want to lynch you today basically

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

?!

Wording felt strange, but I may be slightly out of context.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I think he doesn't think he can outtalk me.

I'm not a wolf, but I usually prefer outtalking people. I came pretty close to leaving you alive last game, but took the easier route instead.
You're right, though, specifically for this game. I said "usually" because I don't feel like I can out talk anyone atm. I've already spent too much time here this D0, and am now playing catchup with IRL stuff as a result.

Still, I don't understand the purpose of your post. If you're town, you draw a nightkill and frame me in the same breath by writing what you wrote. Why create that risk?