TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

dbp

the thread has reached the point where I think we can start to figure out if dbp is actually a wolf or not

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm here now

damn I'm the best at timing

[Charu]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Delightful.

lynch me btch ass boo boo

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

They don't need risk improvising anything D0 here if they make up some plan.

What I'm saying is that your "cannot be W/W" theories only makes sense in the context where they don't have a 24/7 wolfchat because wolves won't be able to organize themselves as efficiently.

This is usually wolves play more safe/neutral. In this game they can do whatever they want because they can explain things to each others on the go.

i'm gonna say that you can still detect w/w pairings even with daychat on because certain interactions will still feel forced, even if both parties are fully aware of the charade

that said, looking at w/w is kind of useless at this stage, unless it's like glaring, better wait until we have flips for that kind of analysis

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Charu

lynch me btch ass boo boo

charu

[Charu]

[mellonxcollie]

I think we should always keep pairings in mind, but probably shouldn't focus on pairings right now. Later on in the game when we can analyze interactions for sure, but right now the wolves are able to cover their butts easily with day chat

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

wow congratulations

you have passed TWG 101

congrats Haku, feels like you were stuck in 101 forever

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

I never said I didn't blow up. I was frustrated.

But I did not blow up only because you pinged me by name, I blew up because of the other posts. You are trying to imply that I blew up simply because you pinged me which is not the full story. It seems wolfish to omit parts of the story like that.

Ah. My bad, I guess that wasn't the best wording. I just mean that it seemed to me like your reactions seemed excessive and out of nowhere to me, especially as responses to my posts, which I feel were mild in comparison. At least, up until you left and I eventually wasn't having it anymore. I really think you should redirect your energy still. Even if you think I'm scum (or don't), I'd appreciate you generating more content elsewhere so that I can read you without bias.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Ah. My bad, I guess that wasn't the best wording. I just mean that it seemed to me like your reactions seemed excessive and out of nowhere to me, especially as responses to my posts, which I feel were mild in comparison. At least, up until you left and I eventually wasn't having it anymore. I really think you should redirect your energy still. Even if you think I'm scum (or don't), I'd appreciate you generating more content elsewhere so that I can read you without bias.

*COUGH* youkindofstartedthisshitflingingaboututrnonsenseinthefirstplace *COUGH*

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

congrats Haku, feels like you were stuck in 101 forever

So, what's the intent here?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

this read actually surprises me, because iirc you have trouble reading charu and tend to leave him for later

why so strong a lean so early now?

I don't have trouble this game
you had a good read on it earlier in 677, its almost completely based on his care for the game, and how serious he is

[thesunfan]

yeah I normally struggle with him but he's kinda like
he's playing like he does as town on d1 during d0 right now, if that makes sense

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Ah. My bad, I guess that wasn't the best wording. I just mean that it seemed to me like your reactions seemed excessive and out of nowhere to me, especially as responses to my posts, which I feel were mild in comparison. At least, up until you left and I eventually wasn't having it anymore. I really think you should redirect your energy still. Even if you think I'm scum (or don't), I'd appreciate you generating more content elsewhere so that I can read you without bias.

My reactions may have been excessive but that's what happens when you deal with the same conversation over, and over and over again when each game is supposed to be a fresh start. It is annoying when people don't even give you a chance.

In the end I think my energy was well directed since I've generated plenty of content to read you better

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

So, what's the intent here?

just a bit of fun

[Charu]

*COUGH* orratheryoupiggysomeoneandmadeabigstinkin'dealaboutittomaketwoorsopagesofthisstuff *COUGH*

[Hakulyte]

Hey sunfan, thoughts on #756 and #758 ?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm fine with you calling people out, I'm not fine with how you're doing it

you seem to be wording it so that it comes across as more subtle and serves to make the player look bad without so much encouraging them to change their behavior and do things differently. the end result is that you can continue to be "suspicious" of them while not even really pointing out clearly what you dislike and why you dislike it. so essentially, free suspicion with no threat of a pushback

first you did it to mellon, then charu in the next post, then proph, and there may be more examples that I've missed

to clarify what I mean, here's what you're doing and here's what I think is not shading, yet still getting your point across:

shading: "funny that you're so defensive about it, though..."
not shading: "why are you so defensive about someone calling you out for not posting?" (of note is that this is more how MML is doing it, which is probably why I like how he's pushed on mellon more)

shading: ".... Nice! Not sure if omgus or opportunistic, but whaaatever."
not shading: "what's up with the sudden switch here? I can't tell if you're being opportunistic or omgusing here"

shading: "Not at all very impressed with the larger "reads list" post this came from, tbh.."
not shading: "didn't really like this reads post, it feels like it could have used more x y and z. proph, can you do x y and z? why didn't you?"

I realize I'm nitpicking heavily on wording here, but I think it's important because this is something I see wolves do a lot: they shade someone without trying to get them to actually change their behavior

Sorry I'm not as ideal as you want me to be? It's like I can't win with you.. If I call something out when I see it, I'm wrong for not correcting gentler. If I don't call something out, you don't believe me and I have to provide screenshot proof.
Also, your level one comment wasn't appreciated. The implication wqs that I'm either a wolf or a bad player, which is insulting at best because I'm not a wolf. Maybe follow your own advice?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

yeah I normally struggle with him but he's kinda like
he's playing like he does as town on d1 during d0 right now, if that makes sense

I blame library shift

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

*COUGH* youkindofstartedthisshitflingingaboututrnonsenseinthefirstplace *COUGH*

Originally Posted by Charu

*COUGH* orratheryoupiggysomeoneandmadeabigstinkin'dealaboutittomaketwoorsopagesofthisstuff *COUGH*

No, dude. I did not start this shit. Nor did I escalate it until after it escalated. You should see a doctor about that cough, seriously. Wouldn't want it to develop into pneumonia and kill you.
Read that how you want. I've stopped giving a fuck at this point.

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

My reactions may have been excessive but that's what happens when you deal with the same conversation over, and over and over again when each game is supposed to be a fresh start. It is annoying when people don't even give you a chance.

In the end I think my energy was well directed since I've generated plenty of content to read you better

Smh so hard, but I'm done with this shit

[Hakulyte]

Shado, if you're town, your content is great and they're going to have a bad day later on.

#hope