TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[Hakulyte]

I filter myself way better than this as wolf. That's why you keep finding things that you consider being holes.

[Hakulyte]

Anyway, not sure I want to discuss about my meta because it's clearly changing over time.

[ShadoWolfe]

Got pulled away as soon as I wrote that last post. I don't have much time but I'll try to cover what I can rn

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

it's between hakulyte and shado imo that's what i think

This is fine with me. I'm nearly certain it's Haku in every world where j-rodd is town. Since that's where you're coming from, I can see how you think it's between me and him.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Going to vote ShadoWolfe once again like the impatient and nervous wolf that I am and claim heresy for anyone else that thinks differently.

tl;dr: I want to see my world win or gets broken this phase so you can debate all you want about chaos wolf being the real thing in F3. If it reaches F3, you have two more flips to use as well for this.

I don't regret the insta on jrodd.
I want to believe in what Sunfan said yesterday with clearing raeko.
I prefer to clear meno over Shado because pocketing me as wolf at this point is kinda crazy imo.
V simply seems off from the game, but based on flips/claims etc. he's cleared fmpov so he's not an issue.

I strongly believe Shado is simply tryharding and waiting for me to continue to throw weak arguments until I look bad enough to be considered.

Good luck with F3 if I'm wrong, but I do believe this ends the game.

Why is meno pocketing you "crazy" if he's wolf?
I'm sorry to hear that you consider your arguments weak, but you haven't even been responding to my posts so I fail to see how you would consider them arguments to begin with.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

1. ShadoWolfe called that I could have been the only person responsible of AA's death without me saying anything about having AA picked as my Adversary.

This call doesn't make sense because
(reasons)

I said this under the assumption that V could continue to green-clear people, and I thought you were the only one on the living roster who would fail to notice that and leave him alive. That literally has nothing to do with your choice of him as your adversary, which is weird on its own right.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

The only way to break this world is with chaos wolf.

If chaos wolf doesn't exist, I'm right.

The odds are worth trying imo.

You came to your big-post single-world conclusion while thinking the Chaos Wolf was a totally different thing than it actually is, and have since been continuously corrected on the mechanics of it, but refuse to adapt your viewpoint.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I think Shado was already on a tightrope yesterday and decided to save his skin after noticing that jrodd was unlikely to show up.

In what world does this make sense? If I was on a tightrope, why would I sacrifice my wolf buddy instead of trying to lynch someone else? I didn't even want to insta, but me and sunfan had a bet that prompted me to action. I won a dollar from it, so gtfo.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

AA and Sunfan must be like "why is haku being considered wolfy at this point of the game? lol".

Uh huh. More likely that they're looking at the roster and shaking their heads at you.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

I guess you were just in such a blood frenzy for jrodd that you lost sight of everything else going on?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

That's about right.

YOU WEREN'T EVEN TRYING TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WERE TRYING TO LYNCH ME before seeing an easier lynch (or maybe the lynch you were hoping to get, hence the "I'd be thinking of j-rodd if it wasn't Shado" comment)

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I like throwing out new ideas.

lol

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Calm down, I agree with you here lol.

more sheeping

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm just upset because I thought I was easy to read.

More like getting upset because your cover is blown.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

the one scenario here that might make sense here is indheart was turned grey and the wolves just targetted the same person two nights in a row - leaving jrodd as the guardian who didn't reveal because he didn't want to endanger himself -- but that's pretty out there and is the sort of crappy thinking where color flipping on the wolves part gives them a strong advantage -- huge distractions and forays into corner case scenarios, making them seem more important than they are, and not focusing on the obvious details we can rally around

I can't agree with this assessment. I think j-rodd as guardian claims in every situation. A chaos wolf's interference at some stage fits a lot better in this setup with the flips so far.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

chances are too slim, that was probably a geniune color-flip. xelnya was definitely a geniune colorflip - wolves would not have known xelnya got hit by a color flipping power when bussing him

Why wouldn't have wolves known he got hit by a color flipping power when bussing? I agree that his color was genuine, but more so because of the timing and volatility of his lynch.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

his defense has lead me to believe he might be a dumb town, what else do you got

Why am I a "dumb" town? I don't think anything I've said has been dumb. I've gone over the mechanics in-depth in multiple worlds, and the game so far actually makes sense with my reads.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Shado is not dumb, that's why he's a wolf. He should be crushing me in an argument easily.

Thank you, but I like to think I am "crushing you", hence your refusal to address literally any of the points I've asked you to address repeatedly.

[ShadoWolfe]

k running late was supposed to be in a meeting 10 minutes away at 2PM (6 minutes ago)
BBL!

[ShadoWolfe]

Voting Haku unless meno does something to radically reveal himself as wolf.

[Hakulyte]

hmm, I need to decide if this is TvT or not and depending of what I say, I may make Town lose the game.

Tricky. Give me 30min, I'll go eat something.

I'm annoyed because you kind of sound genuine here and you're probably equally annoyed.

[Hakulyte]

Objectively speaking, I should be voting meno here to get rid of an UTR player.

He also hammered the insta on jrodd.

I guess I'll have to operate on the world where I'm wrong because it seems like being wrong is a specialty for me in this game.

[Hakulyte]

This game sucks.

[mellonxcollie]

Yeah I'm so confused in the game at this point. I keep starting posts and just not finishing them because they don't end up making that much sense

go ahead and play me like a fiddle wolf cause I'm lost af

[Hakulyte]

Just for F3 in case I get mislynched.

I am Vanilla Town. I am not a PR, if I flip some silly color, it's not me hiding a role.

[meno_rocks123]

V's hard push on haku today has thrown me for a loop.

[meno_rocks123]

Haku was my D1/D2 tinfoil, so I think I'm too biased to make an informed decision here.

[Hakulyte]

I think Shado and me are dumbasses and that lynching you meno is a win/win scenario.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by meno_rocks123

Haku was my D1/D2 tinfoil, so I think I'm too biased to make an informed decision here.

Tinfoil away, please it would help me to have more stuff to read

[Hakulyte]

The problem is that if Shado is last wolf and I'm stuck with raeko, I can imagine getting the hammer 99% of the time.

[Hakulyte]

So, who are you going to vote if I get lynched in F3?

I'm curious.

[Hakulyte]

F5*

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

So, who are you going to vote if I get lynched in F3?

I'm curious.

Honestly I'm not going to answer this question. I'll deal with final 3 if/when we get to that. I'd rather give less info to the wolf in the event the game continues

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by meno_rocks123

Haku was my D1/D2 tinfoil, so I think I'm too biased to make an informed decision here.

Can you take a stance? You sounds like a 2nd Xiz and I don't like it.