TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[ShadoWolfe]

back, and calm
1sec articulating after washing hands of icecream

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by meno_rocks123

Am I still allowed to dislike Xiz? Because he's scummy as hell and I could easily see the pink roleclaim being a perfect way for a janitor wolf to take a risk that there either isn't a pink ranger or take down the pink ranger with them.

yes I still dislike him too

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by meno_rocks123

Am I still allowed to dislike Xiz? Because he's scummy as hell and I could easily see the pink roleclaim being a perfect way for a janitor wolf to take a risk that there either isn't a pink ranger or take down the pink ranger with them.

Not at all, I don't like Xiz either. I still think his dumb tell about not having a target seemed fake, and the claim just seems too convenient with the role/timing/everything lining up how it did

[ShadoWolfe]

I had to have left soon anyways for a lunch date, but I don't want my last words to be emotional garbage, so here:

I got upset when you suggested that order because I know that there isn't anything much that I can do about it. We've massclaimed, and after V gets back we're all going to have to decide on a lynch order for the people here. Your word holds a lot of stock in this community, so if you try to impose a specific lynch order with me in it, I know I'm most likely going to get lynched. I got especially upset because you didn't present any way I can avoid a mislynch, or any evidence I can refute. Instead, you just matter-of-factly stated that you think I'm "less town" than the others and therefore going to get lynched after Meno.

That bothers me, especially considering you're not cleared and still can say "I'm not going to get lynched in this game".
At this point, half of me feels like I should just accept that and stop caring about the game, and the other half says that there's no guarantee of us winning even if I were to just resign to a mislynch.

But anyways,
I find it weird that all of our "top town" thought Haku was definitely a PR, and then didn't reassess him even after he said he was VT. The reason you were so sure he was town was because you were pretty sure he was a PR, and now that the basis for that is invalidated, you're still holding firm onto your assumptions? I'd lynch Haku before Meno, and Meno before anyone else. The only people I feel fairly sure are town are Raeko and AA. I'd like to see V's claim before talking about a concrete order. I'd like Meno to catch up before I'll consider voting him. I'd like the rest of you to reexamine Hakulyte in light of his VT claim.

[AragakiAyase]

I didn't think haku was town because PR, I think he's town because of his play this game, I just also think he's a PR

my lynch order atm is probably something like meno > xiz > raeko, because xiz is scummy af this game and his claim is the only thing saving his neck right now

if V is a PR then I'm comfortable lynching xiz, because I could see guardian ind + PR V would be approximately what I'd guess for this game in terms of town PRs

[ShadoWolfe]

K, gonna go have lunch now.
I really hope there's just one wolf left and that it's whoever we lynch tonight, because I don't relish the prospect of fighting a hopeless battle against a policy lynch order tomorrow with no basis for why it's me other than "I just feel you're less town than the others".

[thesunfan]

the reason I thought Haku was town was established before he straight up claimed that he was a role yesterday

Haku is playing completely different from when he was a wolf, I find it pretty hard to believe he is a wolf this game.

I don't have an order set in stone. I don't think I get you killed before other people, namely raeko, because I'm not the only person with influence in this community, and more specifically, this game.

I'm going to reevaluate as I see fit. I see no real reason to reevaluate on Haku right now.

Why are you not townreading me? I literally never bus like that. There's a chance that Xel wasn't a wolf but like... not only would I have had to play probably pretty differently in that scenario I also had to have gotten lucky.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

xiz is scummy af this game and his claim is the only thing saving his neck right now

Literally true. I'd doubt his claim a lot more if he wasn't the one claimed PR here. Numbers don't lie and the numbers point pretty strongly to him being what he says he is.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Literally true. I'd doubt his claim a lot more if he wasn't the one claimed PR here. Numbers don't lie and the numbers point pretty strongly to him being what he says he is.

but like I just said, if V is PR then I'm ok with lynching xiz

if V isn't PR then I'll have to leave xiz alone

[AragakiAyase]

shado stop moping I'll defend you hard

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

the reason I thought Haku was town was established before he straight up claimed that he was a role yesterday

I don't remember claiming directly, but okay.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I did not expect this kind of reaction from you, Shado
you seem like a fighter, not a "I'll see you in postgame" (the parking lot) kinda player

Just saw this. I appreciate the comment, but it's not called fighting when you're the only allied plane flying into a swarm of axis fighters in the midst of a blitzkrieg. It's called "it was nice knowing ya, you unlucky bastard". My response to ask "why". You told me it wasn't for anything specific, just a feeling. I can't exactly "fight" that or refute it. It's frustrating.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Haku is playing completely different from when he was a wolf, I find it pretty hard to believe he is a wolf this game.

Also completely differently from when he is town. Idk, I didn't read the last couple games I wasn't in, but I've never seen town Haku post anywhere close to the tone and feeling I've gotten from him this game.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I don't have an order set in stone. I don't think I get you killed before other people, namely raeko, because I'm not the only person with influence in this community, and more specifically, this game.

Then what do you call "I think we kill meno and shado"?

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Why are you not townreading me? I literally never bus like that. There's a chance that Xel wasn't a wolf but like... not only would I have had to play probably pretty differently in that scenario I also had to have gotten lucky.

I am still, mostly. I'm just not sure of it. I said AA/Raeko were the onlys I feel fairly confident are town. Not so sure of you anymore, 'cause you went straight for the lynch order before even having all your claims in. That's not very objective or analytical, wouldn't you say? Also:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I'm not trying to get you lynched. The thought of you wolfing this game was only existent in my mind as a tinfoil before you said that, but now it's growing.

[meno_rocks123]

Originally Posted by inDheart

is there a reason you say specifically a successful guard?

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Oh boy Meno slip?

Are we going to play the same game as last round where I (correctly) called four wolves and the chance of VW with logic and reason and then got lynched, or can I let this one drop?

[thesunfan]

did you really call out the 4 wolves?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Then what do you call "I think we kill meno and shado"?

What I would do right now if I had to choice of expedition

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

shado stop moping I'll defend you hard

I'm not moping (anymore). I just got frustrated 'cause it didn't seem like there was anything I can do. I hate that I got mad over it, and I hate even more that I let that much emotion show in this game.
Thanks though, and don't worry about defending me! I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by meno_rocks123

Are we going to play the same game as last round where I (correctly) called four wolves and the chance of VW with logic and reason and then got lynched, or can I let this one drop?

"I did something last game so it's happening again this game"

[AragakiAyase]

k gonna afk until V's slot claims lol

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

What I would do right now if I had to choice of expedition

Fine, whatever. Just keep an open mind, and hopefully you'll change your mind or the game stops before we get to that point.

[meno_rocks123]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

did you really call out the 4 wolves?

I did, and arguably got lynched for it. (that and calling that non-PR wolves were possible)

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