TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

if raeko is a wolf and Haku is owning her I'm gonna laugh my ass off btw
I don't think that's what's happening but I hope it is just because

This would be hilarious, but I really don't think that's what's happening.

You've played a fair number of games with Raeko, right? What's she like as an active wolf? In every game I've seen her wolfing, she's gone UTR, but since she was just called out on that last game and ended up being a wolf, I really doubt she'd adopt the same strat again as wolf.

At the same time, just the fact that she's posting often and posting naturally (as far as I can tell) is making me read her town. From your experience with her, is there anything you'd be looking for from an active, wolf Raeko?

Anyone who's played with active wolf Raeko should also respond, please.

[Hakulyte]

You guys are acting like raeko can't adapt her meta.

zzz..

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

You guys are acting like raeko can't adapt her meta.

zzz..

adapting your meta isn't *that* hard

doing it while sounding natural is

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I don't like xiz's push on me and how he refuses to give a case on the grounds that I'll just try to refute it and we'll disagree. even if he thinks that will happen (and it probably would), it doesn't help anyone else get a better read on him and it also doesn't let me see where he's coming from. However, I don't think his being intentionally annoying/stubborn is necessarily a wolfy trait, and he also feels very different from last game where he was a wolf.

I agree with you about Xiz on that point. I'm still awaiting his return to the thread to see if he does end up expanding on his views.

what do you think of haku's argument with you? does it lean him wolfy or towny in your eyes, and why?

I think it seems wolfy just because it does not seem super genuine to me. It seems like he is running with one small thread and not really making a great case. He's trying to make it seem like I am playing UTR intentionally all the time including during this game which just isn't happening. Usually when someone is trying to craft a specific narrative that doesn't have much base in the current game it is "NAGL"

Originally Posted by thesunfan

if raeko is a wolf and Haku is owning her I'm gonna laugh my ass off btw
I don't think that's what's happening but I hope it is just because

mean

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I do like it when people say they don't know things. It's better than "I don't understand, I am human because I am human."

Hm, this sounds vaguely familiar :3

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yeah, I feel like she's pulling all her hat tricks already and it's only D0.

What hat tricks would those be? I read your summary of Raeko strats and, while I agree that she's tended to go UTR as woof lately, I didn't find any of the rest of it applicable to this game.
I thought her hat trick was "hide until called out, then drop a reaction, some {deep thoughts}, an excuse, and then disappear". That's not happening this game though, either, so what ones are you referring to?

[Hakulyte]

You're not playing UTR "this game", you're playing UTR "normally".

[AragakiAyase]

haku forget raeko for now and look elsewhere

do you have any other suspects? who are your townreads (and why if possible)?

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I do like it when people say they don't know things. It's better than "I don't understand, I am human because I am human."

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

You can't pretend to be human if you actually are human. So what you're saying is literally impossible

I DON'T WANT TO VOTE YOU RIGHT NOW but I really don't know wtf you're talking about please explain

QUOTE TREE

I did not understand what you meant by "pretending to be an human as human". Despite my asking what you meant you kept talking about other things and not explaining that statement like I'd asked. which was very avoidant and made it seem like you were just pushing on me for the sake of it.

anywaysssss

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

QUOTE TREE

I did not understand what you meant by "pretending to be an human as human". Despite my asking what you meant you kept talking about other things and not explaining that statement like I'd asked. which was very avoidant and made it seem like you were just pushing on me for the sake of it.

anywaysssss

Okay, I can play this too.

I don't understand why you don't understand.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Okay, I can play this too.

I don't understand why you don't understand.

Someone can't "pretend" to be something if they actually are that thing. That's why it's a very confusing statement. I pretty much understood by the implications in your other posts, but that still doesn't change the fact that you didn't explain

Anyways I'm done talking about this because I want to actually ya know find wolves unlike other people who don't seem too concerned with doing that

[mellonxcollie]

Why did you ignore AA and only respond to me

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

haku forget raeko for now and look elsewhere

do you have any other suspects? who are your townreads (and why if possible)?

town;
InDheart (tone read)
V (peek)
jrodd (solid D0, nothing seems wrong)
AA (standard town game so far)
Xiz (feels genuine into caring about the game)

null:
meno (seems different from last game, but idk if alignment indicative, slight town)
sunfan (very hard to read properly for me)

wolf:
raeko (avoiding self-conscious thoughts)
xel (gut read more than anything)
shadowolfe (feels like he could go either way tbh)

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

town;
InDheart (tone read)
V (peek)
jrodd (solid D0, nothing seems wrong)
AA (standard town game so far)
Xiz (feels genuine into caring about the game)

null:
meno (seems different from last game, but idk if alignment indicative, slight town)
sunfan (very hard to read properly for me)

wolf:
raeko (avoiding self-conscious thoughts)
xel (gut read more than anything)
shadowolfe (feels like he could go either way tbh)

so wouldn't shado be more in null
and meno feeling different should lean him wolf, no?

[AragakiAyase]

oh you have a peek on V

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

oh you have a peek on V

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

You're acting like I can decide who I peek.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

You're acting like I can decide who I peek.

nah I'm just disappointed because I think he's a wolf but you won't be voting for him

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

so wouldn't shado be more in null
and meno feeling different should lean him wolf, no?

Yeah, that would be about right.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

This would be hilarious, but I really don't think that's what's happening.

You've played a fair number of games with Raeko, right? What's she like as an active wolf? In every game I've seen her wolfing, she's gone UTR, but since she was just called out on that last game and ended up being a wolf, I really doubt she'd adopt the same strat again as wolf.

At the same time, just the fact that she's posting often and posting naturally (as far as I can tell) is making me read her town. From your experience with her, is there anything you'd be looking for from an active, wolf Raeko?

Anyone who's played with active wolf Raeko should also respond, please.

I can't read her very well. I don't think reading her off of activity will bear any fruit. I think that her responses to Haku are more townie than not and I still think the read she gave on you came from a genuine place.

The problem I have with reading her is she's pretty good at having opinions that no one else seems to have regardless of her alignment, and I haven't really nailed down a solid way to read her yet.

I'm not really bothered by her

v is more likely to be a wolf than xel based on play thus far

[thesunfan]

did v drop slank?
I made a bad vote if he dropped slank

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

did v drop slank?
I made a bad vote if he dropped slank

but didn't he drop slank in FE?