TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

[Etylukah]

Early bird game.

Originally Posted by Charu

mellonxcollie

Mellon vote on the first Charu post. (buss trolling?)

Originally Posted by Charu

So nothing is happening, alright, knew nothing would. (Except for nee attempting to do something I guess, lol)

Actually surprised mellon posted as much as she did in the beginning and was even throwing some gloating around. Not reading it as anything too weird though, because I'm sure she understands why I'm voting for her.

Too bad I most likely won't move my vote regardless. Unless we're unfortunate enough that the game decided that she's a PR.

Sorry, I don't support intentional silent gameplay whatsoever. Even if you don't do it this game.

Charu covering bases.

Originally Posted by Charu

So nothing is happening, alright, knew nothing would. (Except for nee attempting to do something I guess, lol)

Actually surprised mellon posted as much as she did in the beginning and was even throwing some gloating around. Not reading it as anything too weird though, because I'm sure she understands why I'm voting for her.

Too bad I most likely won't move my vote regardless. Unless we're unfortunate enough that the game decided that she's a PR.

Sorry, I don't support intentional silent gameplay whatsoever. Even if you don't do it this game.

That's a good Town read me please attempt.

I'm seriously seeing all of these posts as "preparation" type of posts.

After he slowly goes back to his normal Charu game.

Most of his interactions are cringe worthy tho when you know the flips of AA/DFR/dadcop2.

[Etylukah]

I encourage others to go iso him.

[inDheart]

mellon

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Charu seems like he has been probing a lot which gives him town points in my book

IDK about Sunfan he seems very wishy-washy which could be a wolf covering all bases or could just be a confused human

Neeee was such a god-like town last game that it's a bit weird he hasn't been posting more. and when he does it doesn't seem that invested. He really went after his reads hard last game and he doesn't seem to be doing that this game. Seems like he is trying not to stick his head out too much?

I like MML's train of thought regarding dadcop

everyone else I'm not quite sure about. I haven't seen anything that stuck out to me as super wolf-like from any player yet

bwuh, i never really liked your dadcop read and by extension i don't like your mml read

and this list seems to lack specificity even if the nee read is somewhat well developed

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

I voted him right at the beginning as a joke against his vote against me. I considered him towny way after that.

It's a wrong read not only because it is wrong, but because he's just using the last game and not really considering this game at all, which is what is way more important. Given his recent posts I am willing to think he was just mistaken

you know this actually makes me think nee is in a tunnel

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

cuz he's a dummy. it seems like he has a lot of stretched logic

little surprised that either no one pushed you for exemplars or you didn't feel the need to give any

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

I've made quite a few posts about his suspicious behaviour as well as why I think his tunneling on me is bad. So if you want to read my post history there is some stuff in there.

He seems to be focused on trivial details and using stretched logic in order to push me, not using genuine reads or logic. Example:

1) This "self editing" is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever read in TWG. Sorry. Everyone edits quotes down to their relevant parts and if we didn't we would have huge quote walls of text on every page. That's why the post URL is right there, providing easy access to the full quote if it is needed. You can quote without quoting the whole thing. STRETCH

2)Accusing me of attempting to pocket AA based on a single, vague comment I made. Everyone agrees that AA was not being seen as a PR so why I would attempt to pocket AA of all players? with one single comment, just doesn't really make sense.

3)Accusing me of parking my vote when I explicitly said that I was not parking, was present at EOD and had been accussing him of being suspicious all game. STRETCH

And then for all of his probing of me, it does not seem like he is really listening to what I say or awaiting my responses. His mind is already made up.

This is the kind of thinking a wolf would have when they are pushing someone because humans always have a little air of doubt to them. Humans are generally willing to bend at least a little bit depending on how people respond to them. He is not willing to give me ANYTHING or change his opinion on even small parts of his theory. This is an anti-town way of thinking either way, but I really think he is a wolf

don't really get point 2 because you can pocket anyone, they don't have to be a PR

don't really get point 3 because you're just arguing semantics

nee/mellon seem linked but not in a w/w way just based on how long they've been at each other. the thing is of the two, i like nee more for having some other thoughts about people, whereas i don't like too many of mellon's other thoughts. slight scum here

mellon, how are you reading sunfan now? and i'm probably going to ask you about other people too

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Are you implying you didn't notice any of that?

AA was soft defending dadcop while also asking dadcop a bunch of questions. I took it as AA possibly coaching him ingame and went after both of them.
To both my continue pressure and AA's question he did not have anywhere near a PR feel. None at all. My only reason for backing off him was in heed to Charu's point + the knowledge that I normally always think the new kid is scummy and I always mislynch him; there where bigger scums to get and I decided to go for them

As for a specific point made that mad me not believe he was a PR.....well all that took several pages to develop. I could go back and just mass quote a bunch of shit but seriously you should have already read all that. Are you implying to me you where glancing over entire pages worth of post? That's a pretty bad play.

i'm pretty sure we read the same posts and they just didn't change much for me, but once i finish rereading i'll humor you and check those out again (and i'll probably hit them once i read your posts too)

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Why tune out strong town reads? I see people do that and it's garbage.

it's something i do for specific people if i usually have a hard time following their logic/progressions. your posts are also hard to read in iso/quote because of your posting style

moreover, if i think someone's strong town then that means i'm a little less tempted to revisit that read, so i read their posts less closely and more for the takeaways

[Etylukah]

@ InDheart.

Originally Posted by Charu

btw, hot read.

inDheart is rubbing me the wrong way, or maybe it's because he was trying to pick apart my "temporarily" post.

It didn't sit right with me.

I don't think this post would have happened if I didn't "question" your entrance which was pretty meh of me in the same way talking about semantics with AA was.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Etylukah

Mellon vote on the first Charu post. (buss trolling?)

I see Turbo IV has scarred you as much as it's scarred me.

I 100% believe that Charu would bus a partner right out the gate, especially if that person was coming in with a bunch of (admittedly not fair) baggage from the last few games (There was a whole deadchat full of people pissed at inactives and a few of them are playing). That said, at best that's tinfoil. There's no strong reason to believe it's happening because I've seen Charu legit just random vote people for no reason. For a few games, it was me.

But ok, I get that to you Raeko is scum and if she flips red Charu looks weird. I'm all for remembering that for later. Are there any other possible Raeko Partners? How about who you believe are likely scum if Raeko somehow manages to be town?

[Etylukah]

Originally Posted by Charu

I don't think she posted like that because of our votes, but alright, I can accept this thinking from you.

I can't help but picture Charu being like: "I know more stuff than you know about Mellon, but nice try hee hee"

[MixMasterLar]

SunFan's here. That's great. Post for us man---prove to me you ain't really a wolf

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Etylukah

@ InDheart.


I don't think this post would have happened if I didn't "question" your entrance which was pretty meh of me in the same way talking about semantics with AA was.

i'm not sure that i agree (and i'm working on charu now) because that was re: his dfr vote and the word "temporarily", which seems independent of you, no?

[Etylukah]

Assuming Neeee/Mellon is W/T.

Mellon being W (most likely)
Mellon seems to town read Charu and scum read thesunfan.
@

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Charu seems like he has been probing a lot which gives him town points in my book

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

As for the other plays I don't have as strong a read on anyone yet. I am starting to get a bit nervous about Sunfan

That's clearing thesunfan for me and making the Mellon/Charu team even more believable.

Charu ironically has been soft-bussing Mellon about her activity etc. but never enough to turn her into a serious lynch candidate.

[MixMasterLar]

Etylukah (Haku)
Until counterclaimed, pretty clear. And honestly at this point if someone tries to CC now and not when the day started I'll probably still believe Haku. Town

Theknightsofneeee
I don't get where this guy is coming from half the time. Too many post explaining how he normally does things and not enough scumhunting, but has a really legitimate reason to scumread Mellon. Is probably town even if Mellon flips red, but I would like to see more from him. His "See how much I am totally not wolfing, guys" rubs me the wrong way, and that bullshit about how I might be scum for following his lead is....bullshit.

That said PoE points to town. Slight Town

inDheart
I still don't like his d0 and I still think that he had a garbage take on what was going on with Dadcop but he's putting in work right now and I like it. Let's see where it takes him.

Mellonxcollie (Raeko)
I covered Raeko pretty well already. Gives off the impression of stalling and doesn't seem to be concerned with too many people outside who's directly talking to her or Nee, and holding on to that vote with no supplementary work/comments is garbage that should be called out. If I find that Raeko is town I'm gonna flip in Post because town has no right playing like this.

Top Scum.

Charu
Charu is Charu and it's garbage that I kind of have him at null. He's receded probably because he's sick of the game ATM and that seems to be a Town Charu thing, but then again he could just be at work.

I really would like to see a page by page or at least a player-by-player teardown from him before I make a judgement, so I'm willing to soak in his EoD and address him tomorrow. It wouldn't surprise me that he'd be wolf this game, but without any strong links or serious out of character plays I ain't throwing that vote.

thesunfan
...Better have posted by the time I hit send on this or I'll be sad

I want to see what he does next, like Charu, but I'm leaning Charu a little greener then SunFan for whatever reason.

I guess I have high expectations of SunFan wanting to do more with the flips we have from the night. DFR told wolves ALOT of info about what town has and I kind of expect him to come in here and address how people might be acting differently now that such knowledge is out in the open. If that doesn't happen he'll get a Scumlean for sure

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by inDheart

sunfan popped in scumreading auntsam and yelled at everyone who voted badmeier pmuch

he was committed to his choice is what i'm getting at

sure is pretty different from this game where I was content with both wagons, no?

[thesunfan]

i'll be here until EOD almost completely consistently

catching up on what I missed, might say a few things, then I'm gonna do a super quick skim of everything

before I reset my reads aorn are something like

Haku

Charu

Lar

---

mellon/neee

---

inDheart

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Etylukah

Note that this vote wouldn't have been possible without hard claiming.

the claim was good mechanically so idk why you seem to be hinting that its not

[inDheart]

birddragon

Originally Posted by Charu

So nothing is happening, alright, knew nothing would. (Except for nee attempting to do something I guess, lol)

Actually surprised mellon posted as much as she did in the beginning and was even throwing some gloating around. Not reading it as anything too weird though, because I'm sure she understands why I'm voting for her.

Too bad I most likely won't move my vote regardless. Unless we're unfortunate enough that the game decided that she's a PR.

Sorry, I don't support intentional silent gameplay whatsoever. Even if you don't do it this game.

i was not happy with birdman early on and it's because of posts like this where he doesn't even wanna vote mellon for game-related reasons and carries this forward really far into the day

i don't read his behavior around this vote as consistent with it being a shitvote, so that's invalid

Originally Posted by Charu

PS, the fact you did unvote makes me have mixed feelings. You're longer in my town pile as a result, but I want to say you're town.

We'll see though...

...Quick question, probably was already asked in signups (I didn't look). You've played TWG/Mafia before anywhere else?

i like charu's takes around here though

Originally Posted by Charu

I don't know what this vote means!! THESUNFAN, WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?

Are my eyes real?

this reaction is probably standard for you

Originally Posted by Charu

Wanna know what's wolfy though? Trying to smudge someone for no reason first hour of the game!!

i wouldn't say nee had "no reason" here but your follow up was good

Originally Posted by Charu

It's a maybe.

He's certainly more scattered brained in posts than usual.

I think it's because he's so sporadic right now that I'm kind of thinkin', nah, to him being a wolfy fooky

here i think charu and i were feeling the same thing, and that's a good look

reads list has more than a few nulls but at least it has things that aren't nulls; that's an accomplishment compared to some people -_-

Originally Posted by Charu

Mmm..mmm...MMM...

Y'know, if you two are right, then I don't even fuckin' know. Hasn't dfr AS TOWN been wishy washy before with his votes and reasons? I feel like when he doesn't feel the game, he is!

Maybe I'm mis-remembering his playstyle hard. It's either he's strong, or he's kind of "meh".

i still wanna clarify who's being talked about here because i just don't know, and i might just be confused by your dfr mention, but the post you quoted is about me

Originally Posted by Charu

Well shit, I no longer wanna lynch nee, uh... um...

I wouild totally be down for dadcop2, but of course, I have it ironed in to me I should always give new guys a chance, even if their play has been... questionable...

ok things like this are why i really need to reread dadcop interactions because i'm clearly not getting what like 4 people were getting

Originally Posted by Charu

If your town, state your reads in a short manner right now. It sucks, but nee is definitely a wolf, and I would rather give dadcop2 a chance at proving me he's someone I want here still.

i just think this typo is funny because you weren't the first one to do it even this game. like, you were missing the extra word that sunfan's post had

Originally Posted by Charu

You're literally the worst, what kind of shot was that on dadcop2? I expected a wolf kill on dadcop2, not a freakin' town person.

WHY ARE YOU SO BAD!?

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH

i think you pass the reaction test here

Originally Posted by Charu

Sigh, well... I guess this means AA was either fear killed or PR read.

I'mm-a look at his posts I guess, but I never felt a PR vibe from him at all. I really want to say it was a fear kill, and if that's the case, thesunfan is suspect imo.

huh

Originally Posted by Charu

Doesn't change what you've done in the last two games though. If you're active now, you should've been active those games as well, but I digress here.

I don't like you at the moment because you did what nee just stated. You didn't vote on a wagon, you let things play out, and you kept your vote on nee because of a weird ass justified suspicion that he may be "stretching too far" with pointing his FoS at you.

I don't like that part at the moment, mellon.

this is also good. jeez i liek charu now

Originally Posted by Charu

I didn't like his tone, that was all I didn't like. You wanted him gone, that's a bit different, buddy. So don't start your name calling bullshit or I'm going to get nasty with you.

@mml this

Originally Posted by Charu

I think you're going to die in the night.

sgt obvious reporting for duty

Originally Posted by Charu

I was just saying fear kill because that's generally how AA always gets NK'd. It's never because he was actually legit read as a PR. (Seriously, it's probably been ages since he was NK'd for actually being read one).

But, thesunfan knows AA is pretty good at going back to his solid town reads. AA is just like that.

So when AA said he was okay with thesunfan. I didn't believe it for a second. He's the type of player to always keep a check on players he finds most towny in his eyes.

*Shrug*

I would have to probably do some deep reading on AA's post to see where in the world he might've let slip that he was a PR, but as of current, nothing is telling me he was ever read as one.

charu talking about AA getting fearkilled is like super on point

i talked to AA after fire emblem was over/before i signed up for this game and he lamented he barely gets to play anymore because he gets fearkilled all the time lol

i think this is more town charu than not, though there is a chance i got pocketed hard today and am going to pay for it

oh well

also i'll summarize all these in a list again when i get done

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

sure is pretty different from this game where I was content with both wagons, no?

more similar than when you're town (turbo 6, phoenix wright)

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i think this is more town charu than not, though there is a chance i got pocketed hard today and am going to pay for it

probably wrong wording on pocket, i still don't know how to use that word

[Etylukah]

InDheart, did you play with Charu as wolf before?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by inDheart

to add to that i think nee is the only one in this game who regularly uses invisible, like i'm pretty sure he's the extra "member" viewing right now. he mentioned it last game

confirming that he's the only player in this game that I've seen use invisible mode

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by inDheart

more similar than when you're town (turbo 6, phoenix wright)

I was content with the wagons in phoenix wright

I ended up shooting the counterwagon (DBP) in the face after V flipped. I mean I made it clear that I wanted DBP more than I wanted V but I think I played the good ol' "not gonna cry if V dies" that game