TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

[thesunfan]

yeah ok in that case, its def too late to make a change in how the game is played at this point so

I lied earlier, I was given the power of a preserver for today, I was intending to use it on Tokzic tonight to troll the shit out of him and I was never going to claim it because, as some other people pointed out, becoming confirmed can lead to a death sentence by the wolves

I believe that Tokzic is town, I have no doubts about his claim of voteless or whatever the fuck it is

Everyone essentially has to post what I said when the game started, there is now no reason not to do so.

R O F L this game just got super easy, sucks for the wolves.

[Hakulyte]

I mean Tokzic already claimed and can be verified tomorrow based on vote.

I don't see why more claims shouldn't happen and get this moving on.

[thesunfan]

if you have a power that is beneficial, like you have a lie detector DO NOT CLAIM IT

DO NOT CLAIM NOT HAVING A POWER FROM THIS POINT FORWARD EITHER

[thesunfan]

I will attempt to guess from a POE and use my power on someone who I think has a beneficial power, and it prevents the wolves from killing someone with a good power tonight before they have a chance to use it

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Wineandbread

MML: In general, I feel like your posts have been full of air. He's prodding some people for information, but most of it isn't specific (got a reads list, can you give us your thoughts, inactives post pls!, etc.) Reads list was rushed. Slight scum for now.

As one of the first reads list, I'm pretty proud of it actually.
I guess it could use updating, but I don't think alot has changed: I like Charu a little more, Tokzic looks good, Shado kind of looks weird, REA looks hella scumier....besides that that's really it.

People really do need to be posting more. Certain people, anyway. I know it's day one but we have 72 hours and it'll be nice if we at least have a proper scum short list by the end of it. Half of everyone's reads are either null or gut I think.

Originally Posted by Arntonach

You get told your silenced at the start of the next day phase, so night phase wouldn't be affected.

Mmmmmmkay

Beware the modkill

[thesunfan]

I'm really sure MML is town as well, fwiw, like, super sure

[Charu]

I am a survivor and not a wolf

[MixMasterLar]

Oh wow didnt see all of SunFan's post

Originally Posted by thesunfan

it also means people can't hide behind the "I don't wanna post what you wanted me to post sunfan" excuse anymore

This was what Tokzic was saying lol. I didn't realize you thought otherwise

Originally Posted by thesunfan

yeah ok in that case, its def too late to make a change in how the game is played at this point so

I lied earlier, I was given the power of a preserver for today, I was intending to use it on Tokzic tonight to troll the shit out of him and I was never going to claim it because, as some other people pointed out, becoming confirmed can lead to a death sentence by the wolves

I believe that Tokzic is town, I have no doubts about his claim of voteless or whatever the fuck it is

Everyone essentially has to post what I said when the game started, there is now no reason not to do so.

R O F L this game just got super easy, sucks for the wolves.

I'll just blantedly sheep you and agree with all of this.

Like I did 30 odd hours ago with Tokzic lol

[thesunfan]

im gonna do math and see if its even possible for wolves to win in a reasonable manner

[thesunfan]

this game is essentially over
the absolutely best case scenario for wolves without modkills is if the same people keep getting powers over and over meaning no new people become essentially confirmed

the "best" case scenario for wolves is the only winnable scenario, and the probability of it happening is probably super low (i'd guess its below 5%). It requires the same people to be confirmed over and over, the wolves to always kill a confirmed every single night, the wolves to not get fucked by the lie detector, and its super unlikely to occur

[Wineandbread]

So let me get this straight:

Game ends when the 2 werewolves are lynched, or if parity of factions is reached.

Werewolves can not receive the random roles.

"Beneficial" roles: Jailer, Lie Detector, any others? These should not claim.

We lock-clear survivors that do claim and proceed to eliminate wolves.

That's the plan?

[Wineandbread]

I am a survivor and not a wolf.

[thesunfan]

it is my sincerest belief that this game in its current state is completely broken in favor of the survivors and that this game should cease immediately, be fixed, and then rerolled

[Hakulyte]

What if people fake claim gifts?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

What if people fake claim gifts?

then we figure out who is lying, it should be pretty easy because things like voteless and actor (and potentially jailor) are verifiable, and it actually makes the game end faster than it would if they didn't claim

[Red Blaster]

There's been 300+ posts since I've last viewed the thread, bring me up to speed pls

[Charu]

thesunfan advocating for a fix and re-roll.

...This is a first in TWG history, dohoho

[Charu]

OR well, FFR TWG, yee

[thesunfan]

ok, so, actor isn't verifiable

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

OR well, FFR TWG, yee

the first game run for TWG revival was stopped by Manti. it was completely imbalanced. Its the memegame that james may hosted where town started out at parity with non-town and the game where sage of the forest tried to seer manti when manti wasn't in the game