I don't mean to be insensitive...

[Reach]

Originally Posted by jazzmosis

And the catastrophe if it went wrong could potentially wipe out the world population.

It's safe. This isn't 1960 anymore. Same with the radiation. You're getting about 50 times as much radiation from that x-ray at the dentists than you are if you worked in the plant all year long.

There are already 100 plants in the states anyway XD But none within 1000 miles of here.

[chickendude]

WE MUST UNLEASH THE STRONG FORCE!

and its not just greed at the gas stations causing the prices to go up. Gas station owners have to pay a load to get the gas and they make as little (as(or less than) 1c per gallon profits. Each time you gas up your car the station only gets like 15-25 cents. And then there's the problems with drive offs, people stealing gas. Think about it, the gas station loses like 30 dollars at a drive off, and it takes them another 200 gallons just to break even for that one guy. Gas isn't exactly a booming business for the gas station owners. They are taking advantage of the time, because they need money.
Also you can't call them greedy for trying to make some money. They are just trying to make as much money as they can. Its how they make their living. You can't say you're being greedy for accepting a raise, if you get one. Think of labor day like their raise (temporary at least) For business owners, the greedy attitude needs to be there, or they will get trampled by competition.

[GuidoHunter]

Nuclear energy is near perfect? What are you smoking, Reach? Sure, we may have learned from our mistakes at Chernobyl and Three Mile Island, but that doesn't mean the risks inherent to nuclear energy production have gone away. It's still dangerous, it's still expensive, it still produces only a slight improvement in efficiency, and the nuclear waste is still IMPOSSIBLE to dispose of. It's not like we're venting stuff into the very resilient atmosphere which will take care of it on its own; nuclear waste just sits and takes up space. Regardless of waste or cost to develop, it's still relatively unsafe. The potential disaster is incredible and since you can never eliminate that potential, the cost of something going wrong is absurd. Nobody wants to be the plant developer whose plant nukes a million people, right?

That's why nuclear energy has gone by the wayside. There may be 100 nuclear plants in America, but I doubt half of them are operational just because it's not worth it.

As for alternative fuel cars, you can be damned sure that every car company is clamoring over being the first to sell the first feasible AF car. Like chicken said, whoever does it first will make assloads of money, especially in this day and age. What's the problem? Putting the science in a car that meets our standards and making it able to operate functionally. It's tough to make a powerful car out of alternative fuels, and the consumers have extremely high expectations. And then, after you make the car, you must be sure that it can be refueled when it needs to be; you need ethanol cars before you can have ethanol stations.

And I really don't see why everyone is whining about oil companies hoarding money at these prices and whatnot. The job of a business is to make money, not to cater to the people. It's true that catering to the people could be a great investment and pay off well, and that's exactly why people are developing alternative fuel cars (to make money), but sometimes it's not worth the investment to others (the oil companies). I would (and I bet you would, too) do the same thing if I was an oil exec and had the interests of my company and its shareholders in my interest. This greed about which everyone is whining is what keeps our country running as well as it does.

Alternative fuels will come when they're damn ready. Now is just not the time.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Pumble]

Originally Posted by chickendude

WE MUST UNLEASH THE STRONG FORCE!

and its not just greed at the gas stations causing the prices to go up. Gas station owners have to pay a load to get the gas and they make as little (as(or less than) 1c per gallon profits. Each time you gas up your car the station only gets like 15-25 cents. And then there's the problems with drive offs, people stealing gas. Think about it, the gas station loses like 30 dollars at a drive off, and it takes them another 200 gallons just to break even for that one guy. Gas isn't exactly a booming business for the gas station owners. They are taking advantage of the time, because they need money.
Also you can't call them greedy for trying to make some money. They are just trying to make as much money as they can. Its how they make their living. You can't say you're being greedy for accepting a raise, if you get one. Think of labor day like their raise (temporary at least) For business owners, the greedy attitude needs to be there, or they will get trampled by competition.

True chickendude, true, but the fact still remains that they are shortsighted for not realizing that developping an alternate fuel source would make up for the initial cost and more. Of course, the companies are too scared to take that risk because it might not work out for them, and it won't make them money in the short term if it does.

[QreepyBORIS]

My French teacher's friend makes his own biodeisel.

Biodiesel is great.

[JurseyRider734]

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

New Jersey probably has the lowest rates in the country. AND they have laws against self-serve pumping.

No.


Gas prices are going up by the hour. Highest i've seen around my small town was $3.27, and that's not cheap.


Edit: And that was yesterday. God knows what it is now.

[Reach]

Christ, we just got owned.

Up to $1.50 a litre. To all you imperial -.- that's about $5.68 a gallon, after the conversion $4.83 USD.

Christ, in just one day O_O

And yes, there are people stealing gas left right and center. There was a huge line up for gas because people think it's going up to like 2 dollars a litre, and there were like 3 or 4 people that drove off without paying XD

[msbrunnettemickey]

Err...

Eva is right.


NJ prices make me go

AHHHHHHHRRRRRRGGGGG


Lowest i have seen around here was.. 2.79

[lightdarkness]

Highest at the end of tonight is 3.99.

[chickendude]

The way that alternative fuel cars will get in the market the fastest is if the government funds the research on making one. If you leave companies to do it, they will be afraid that they will lose money. The government has to be willing to take this risk to help all the companies. It has to promote alternate sources of fuel, especially after the hurricane. I wouldn't be surprised actually

[talisman]

I read a National Geographic article (from like july or june or something) about energy efficiency... the number one most efficient source of energy was wind, followed by coal, solar, and nuclear, I THINK. I'd have to look at the article again though.

[stretchypanda]

At least each of us has a roof over his head, right?

Seriously, my mother called me today, more excited than I've heard her in a while because the electricity is finally back on, after four days. This morning she was doing laundry in the sink.

I get tired of people complaining about gas prices flying up. Especially in the wake of a crisis like this. The day the WTC was attacked all anyone could talk about was what gas prices were going to go to. The principal of my school even volunteered to sit in on teachers' classes while they ran to fill up their cars. This has been no different. Yeah, people express their concerns over the victims, and then they express their concern over the damaged oil refineries. No crisis is too great that we Americans can't throw a fit when one of our assumed rights is hindered.

By the way, Mississippi has the lowest gas prices, although my mom said right now they've got a ten-gallon limit and they don't allow people to fill gas cans. That might change now that power is getting back on and people don't need fuel for their generators.

[emptiness]

fillin up an H2....90 dollars (

[stretchypanda]

If you own an H2 I want to punch you in the face.

[JurseyRider734]

My dad was tell me how during Vietnam people would line up early in the morning by gas stations before they opened up to get gas. They limited the amount you could get, and it was really expensive. He said it was a huge crisis. I hope this doesn't happen.

[Tsuguri]

I've got to agree with the last thing stretchypanda said. Anybody who wastes they're money (and the world's oil) on something as retarded as a H2, especially in this day and age, deserves a swift kick in the front teeth. Status symbols are one of my biggests pet peeves, right next to flakes and wiggers. Every time I see an SUV limo, I want to drive straight through it. There is absolutely no reason for the H2 or any similar vehicle to have ever been made. A "hummer for the suburbs" is one of the biggest oxymorons I've ever heard. I can gaurentee that anybody who owns an H2 has never taken it anywhere that wasn't paved, nor ever would. The same job can just as easily been done by a station wagon or a minivan. Boohoo for your loss of "bling", but you can take your bling and shove it for all I care.

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by ImEric12

They just opened up new oil reserves. Gas should be going down, not up.
Something went wrong. Despite the fact that it didn't effect the gas that the stations already had, gas went up IMMEDIATELY. Now that it's getting better, it should go back down, IMMEDIATELY.
Greedy ass corporations.

One of the first things you learn in Economics is this: Things can go shooting up in cost, but they will never go shooting back down. They take their time and walk their way back down to the price they were at before after an inflation hits.

Is Squeek the new Q in Economics? Find out as I actually take more of the class!

~Squeek

[jewpinthethird]

Man, I love listening to people complain about how they "can't even afford to drive their car anymore." It's so grand.

I guess you could call it Carma.

Man, I should totally have my own sitcom.

[Brainmaster07]

It's only 2.80 here in Washington. Not bad, I perfer a bike myself though.

[ToshX]

I can find it for $1.9X here :/ Isn't common, but can be found. I live in North Carolina.