TWG CLV: Boats

[DaBackpack]

honestly the best thing that could happen for me is for him to come in and help me resolve my opinion on him so that I can stop re-explaining my reasoning and use that effort elsewhere

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Arntonach

Okay then, you lurking is not a part of your persona. Better?

I'm quoting this post so you can look at it again and ask yourself if you don't believe that Arnt is pushing the (even if it's SLIGHTLY) the "DBP is lurking and is wolfy for it" narrative

[Charu]

Jesus, you're going hard on that one statement. Not sure if I dig this line of posting, backpack

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Charu

Jesus, you're going hard on that one statement. Not sure if I dig this line of posting, backpack

probably but it's frustrating not being able to get my point across

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm quoting this post so you can look at it again and ask yourself if you don't believe that Arnt is pushing the (even if it's SLIGHTLY) the "DBP is lurking and is wolfy for it" narrative

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

ask yourself if you don't believe that Arnt is pushing the (even if it's SLIGHTLY) the "DBP is lurking and is wolfy for it" narrative

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

it's SLIGHTLY

...Ok, at THE MOST it was slightly, doing a timeframe where half of us where shitposting. Still don't see the issue.

Although with him gone and not active I do kind of feel like a tool defending him, I am going to stick to my guns in that it seemed way too hasty.


Past that, I think we've said all there is to say about it until he gets back here.

[DaBackpack]

Charu can you list your final conclusions after reading the thread? You did page-by-page which is not very helpful in determining your opinions of the game overall

[DaBackpack]

There's a lot of "I'll keep my eye on X" which I would like to see more developed

[DaBackpack]

You've gone back and forth on AA over time (despite originally shit-voting him), can you make a concise case on him?

[Charu]

My conclusion is that I don't like ML and AA, more so AA, but maybe I was just getting too excited for my own good.

I was informed in PM land that he apparently thinks I'm town, despite me posting nothing but negative things about him. He didn't say this himself, mind you, but another person did.

So now I don't know what to come up with in terms of conclusions. I thought AA was my hardest read, but if what the person who messaged me said was true, then... what does that really leave me?

[AragakiAyase]

can we all agree to be in the discord together tomorrow before EOD? as many people as possible, thanks

[Charu]

Xel I like today and should not be lynched at all.

Follow by you and ShadoWolfe. I wish he would be super good at posting in this thread about info. He started to approach me this afternoon and we had a pleasant chat.

[Charu]

..Um, alright AA.

[Charu]

But yeah, we should totes do that. It helped last game with OOT on. But that was with a somewhat tame setup. This is different, so who knows what that will bring!

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Charu

My conclusion is that I don't like ML and AA, more so AA, but maybe I was just getting too excited for my own good.

I was informed in PM land that he apparently thinks I'm town, despite me posting nothing but negative things about him. He didn't say this himself, mind you, but another person did.

So now I don't know what to come up with in terms of conclusions. I thought AA was my hardest read, but if what the person who messaged me said was true, then... what does that really leave me?

my exact words were

"I mean he's just at a town lean for me at the moment
moreso because I think I can kind of distinguish his wolf game
and I don't see it"

after I had quoted a bunch of your posts that I thought were decent

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by drizzleRomanceGirl

i'm sorry if i offended you; i didn't mean anything i said personally

I take nothing personally in TWG

to me it seemed like you were posting reads only based on private chats and you hadn't posted your conversations yet, so it seemed like you were trying to form a reads list mostly based on private conversations while i didn't know what the conversations were, and it seemed really suspicious

even though I said I would be happy to dump my logs? even though anyone on the other end could have called me out if I was lying?

however, the way you posted those reads still seems suspicious to me even with the private messages you have

and yet you unvote me?

also

remember how I said this

there's nothing here



to me it seemed like you have better opinions of all the people you private messaged, but i'm reading your post more carefully and you only had better opinions about two of the people you had private conversations with

it's true that I said I instinctively feel better about those who PMed me so I can see how you got that impression, but it's moreso in comparison to everyone else who hasn't done shit

i'm sorry i didn't read your post more carefully; this is my fault

i honestly read part of your post on page 14 and another post on page 15 and it seemed like you felt better about everyone you talked with privately, so it was really suspicious to me and i wanted to post my read of you as soon as possible



i meant your reads of the people you private messaged; it seemed like you didn't have any reasoning behind why you felt differently about the people you privately messaged, but you did post your reasoning for one person you private messaged, so i'm sorry



i'm sorry, i didn't read your post carefully enough

unvote

so what I'm most curious here is that you say I'm still suspicious even with my private messages, you never address that point later in this post, and yet you unvote me here. why?

[roundbox]

Talked with a few people over PM (Shado, MML, rsdude). I'm feeling better about MML at this point, and I think Shado is wavering toward the town side.

As for rsdude:

I'm not liking him too much at this point, mostly based in the fact he doesn't seem to be making an effort to solve anything. Check out some of the things he posted in the main discord chat channel:

Originally Posted by CLV main channel

runescapedude - Today at 8:21 PM
I say hello every time i log in, and no one is ever around, starting to even wonder why we have a twg discord section at this point lol
roundbox - Today at 8:21 PM
I'm here
you just gonna
PM people
runescapedude - Today at 8:22 PM
if i PM people it gives off the impression that i care about how they personally feel about me, and i like to remain somewhat neutral, Charu knows lol
Gradiant - Today at 8:23 PM
but you can pm people about other people.......
runescapedude - Today at 8:23 PM
but i can pm other people about the first people as well
im just being confusing because im bored 😄
Gradiant - Today at 8:25 PM
you can free up some of that bordom by pm'ing people instead of saying that nobody's in here 😃
runescapedude - Today at 8:26 PM
my honest reasoning is that right now I have no reason to PM anyone, I just see people complaining on the forums about "not knowing people" but they havent done anything themselves to fix it lol

This comes off as "hey guys talk to me, I want to talk about this game" but responds that he has no reason to PM others. His last line about people complaining that they have no interactions makes me wonder if he's actually reached out and PMd people at all. Based on him saying he has no reason to PM others, I'm gonna guess not.

I took it on myself to PM him. Check it out:

Originally Posted by Chat with rsdude

roundbox - Today at 8:22 PM
like this
😦
runescapedude - Today at 8:31 PM
?
roundbox - Today at 8:31 PM
you don't like private messaging?
runescapedude - Today at 8:31 PM
i never said that, I said i have no reason to right now, there is nothing I have to say to anyone that NEEDS to be private
lol
roundbox - Today at 8:32 PM
"if i PM people it gives off the impression that i care about how they personally feel about me, and i like to remain somewhat neutral, Charu knows lol"
looking more at that
but
it's w/e
runescapedude - Today at 8:33 PM
if you look at the forums, you will see 2 or 3 people complaining that "X" player has not PMd
roundbox - Today at 8:33 PM
ah
runescapedude - Today at 8:33 PM
if I go around PMing them, it basically says "hey, i REALLY care what you think of me right now"
roundbox - Today at 8:33 PM
I haven't PMd a good amount of people
I just want to get some interactions going before EOD
runescapedude - Today at 8:33 PM
the odds of that are slim
everyone is trying to b andwagon EOD for D0
and everyone is failing
right now its more about discovering the basics of what we have, and waiting for N1
instead of making blind assumptions with no backing
roundbox - Today at 8:34 PM
well
the unfortunate truth about the mystery game is that we are going in completely blind
(essentially)
runescapedude - Today at 8:35 PM
yes but there are always patterns that can be followed with playstyle, people will always make mistakes
and on D0, that typically does not happen, not saying it cannot happen
roundbox - Today at 8:36 PM
true
topic change
who are your strongest town reads?
runescapedude - Today at 8:37 PM
to be honest, I have no real leads for either side, obviously the AFK players are on my radar a LITTLE as I feel like one of two things happened.
#1. real life sucks.
#2. they hated their role
roundbox - Today at 8:37 PM
Tokzic gets a pass atm
he's legitimately out of town
runescapedude - Today at 8:37 PM
as far as the active players, i always keep viewing everyone as on the fence until some definitive details appear
roundbox - Today at 8:37 PM
the last few games he was just as inactive but he was definitely home
I have him on Steam and saw him play dota like
every night
but he's been offline for like 4 days now
as for Red Blaster
might not be a good thing
runescapedude - Today at 8:40 PM
like i said, either real life or hating role lol
tok with real life
red possibly hated his role
roundbox - Today at 8:42 PM
I do feel the same way as you about reading people on day0
my reads tend to solidify fast after the first day ends
but you don't have any inclinations on anyone?
I know peopel usually ask WHO U WANT TO LYNCH
but do you have anyone in the "probably not lynch today" pile?
runescapedude - Today at 8:45 PM
not at the moment no

Bolded the important sections. It seems like he's waiting for a slip or a reveal or something similar before making a move, rather than trying to prod and ask questions of others. I ain't like it

runescapedude

[AragakiAyase]

hey dabackpack

you never answered me here

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

??? xel hasn't done anything this game, what are you on

whwat is xel's common endgame towny play?

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

so what I'm most curious here is that you say I'm still suspicious even with my private messages, you never address that point later in this post, and yet you unvote me here. why?

It really looks like she's feeling the heat and just wants you to back off. I would feel better if she at least stuck to her guns (even if she ended up unvoting you still)

I didn't like it when that post was made, and reading it again I still don't.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

can we all agree to be in the discord together tomorrow before EOD? as many people as possible, thanks

I'll probably install Discord on my phone so I can keep up, but I don't know when I'll be free tomorrow

I will be in discord basically all night tonight, so anybody who wants to chat, please HMU.

Originally Posted by roundbox

As for rsdude:
[Logs]


I'm not liking him too much at this point, mostly based in the fact he doesn't seem to be making an effort to solve anything. ....


.......This comes off as "hey guys talk to me, I want to talk about this game" but responds that he has no reason to PM others. His last line about people complaining that they have no interactions makes me wonder if he's actually reached out and PMd people at all. Based on him saying he has no reason to PM others, I'm gonna guess not.


.......

runescapedude

Thanks for the share. This does look like he isn't giving it the ol' collage try.

[Gradiant]

runescapedude - Today at 8:22 PM
if i PM people it gives off the impression that i care about how they personally feel about me

This is the best part.

[MixMasterLar]

I'll probably make another big post on my current reads in a little bit (I am at work haha. Sometimes I have to do things)

After my post I would like to see others take up thye call and post a more traditional reads list