TWG Turbo II Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

I hadtown gut reads on Xiz. I then called him null because i did not want to base my reads at that point off of gut, because regardless of how confident i am it convinces nobody of anything, so i wanted to reset him to null as i went back and looked his posts.

ok, but then you moved him back to town off of gut which doesn't line up with what you've just said where you "regardless of how confident I am it convinces nobody of anything". and gut should take less and less precedence as the day moves on

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

I'm decided I'm sticking with my early game gut reads that Xiz is town. His own reads, his questions, everything he's written feels genuine. The minor mindmelds I have/had with him don't feel odd or "too perfect". Also his defense D0 felt legitimate as well, talking about inactivity or whatever.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Ethan

I really like that big post you made because it did show your towny side

but im worried that you are basing that massive post on only the world of ymia and me.

Is that true?

I will admit that my primary world is you and ymia, but my post isn't based on that world. It draws on points like how ymia moved you around in his reads from gut town to null back to gut town, but I said that it would be very convenient if you two happened to be partners to not have to actually analyze said partner. even if you two aren't partners and it's just ymia as a wolf, it still looks bad on him to basically give someone a pass, reset them, then go back to giving htem a pass.

then you have most points against him that are independent of you and him being together, like his push on zenith, inconsistent read on arnt, being ok with zenith, yet still voting zenith.

then he flip-flops on me without good justification

and he's had those neutral posts/observations that I've been mentioning

so while you/ymia is the world I'm in, no, the post is not based on that world.

[Funnygurl555]

aa what do you think of everyone else's reaction to your post about ymia

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Charu

Get used to it bub, it makes you post some spicy stuff.

And I feel really good about you being a wolf now. The points AA have brought up seem pretty damning to you.

Lets see you do the same thing to AA then? Or hell, do it to me? I'm sure you got plenty of dirt to come with after last night as you mull it over with your partner.

so I actually wish that you wouldn't agree with me so easily here, it makes me nervous. can you bring up specifically which points you thought were especially damning, and why? even if it ends up being recycling what I've said

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I will admit that my primary world is you and ymia, but my post isn't based on that world. It draws on points like how ymia moved you around in his reads from gut town to null back to gut town, but I said that it would be very convenient if you two happened to be partners to not have to actually analyze said partner. even if you two aren't partners and it's just ymia as a wolf, it still looks bad on him to basically give someone a pass, reset them, then go back to giving htem a pass.

then you have most points against him that are independent of you and him being together, like his push on zenith, inconsistent read on arnt, being ok with zenith, yet still voting zenith.

then he flip-flops on me without good justification

and he's had those neutral posts/observations that I've been mentioning

so while you/ymia is the world I'm in, no, the post is not based on that world.

So if its not me, who do you see ymia with (saying im like, locked town or something)

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

aa what do you think of everyone else's reaction to your post about ymia

just made a post about charu

I think xiz's reaction was a bit subdued, he basically said "hey I think it shows you're town but are you basing it on this world?" and then he didn't really react to any of my points against ymia except the one where I called him out on moving xiz from town gut to null.

ymia has completely not reacted to my post lmao

and I'd like to see your reaction

tldr don't really like any of those reactions tbh, ymia's is the most damning because he's not defending himself

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

just made a post about charu

I think xiz's reaction was a bit subdued, he basically said "hey I think it shows you're town but are you basing it on this world?" and then he didn't really react to any of my points against ymia except the one where I called him out on moving xiz from town gut to null.

Hold on cowboy I never said I was done. I need to post things one at a time so you dont skip them.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Xiz

So if its not me, who do you see ymia with (saying im like, locked town or something)

it would probably be FG because the way charu and ymia have been going back and forth I just don't see them as being partners. what I'm referring to is how charu keeps getting in ymia's face and ymia gets mad and pushes scum on him for it. not that there's much tying FG to ymia iirc but it's primarily because of that

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Hold on cowboy I never said I was done. I need to post things one at a time so you dont skip them.

fair point, I'll hold off on that conclusion then

[AragakiAyase]

yeah ymia straight up didn't respond to my big post

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

it would probably be FG because the way charu and ymia have been going back and forth I just don't see them as being partners. what I'm referring to is how charu keeps getting in ymia's face and ymia gets mad and pushes scum on him for it. not that there's much tying FG to ymia iirc but it's primarily because of that

For a majority, you believe that the interactions between ymia and charu are genuine?

And for funnygurl, what are your reads on her as a whole right now, I haven't seen you post a lot about her

[Xiz]

(unless im wrong, which i very well could be)

[Funnygurl555]

i liked it too aa i didn't notice his reads flipped so much but i wasn't expecting everyone else to just agree with you like that

that might be a good thing though it's just yeah

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Xiz

For a majority, you believe that the interactions between ymia and charu are genuine?

And for funnygurl, what are your reads on her as a whole right now, I haven't seen you post a lot about her

I do believe that they are genuine

haven't posted much about funnygurl, tbh I don't remember much to go off of, after I'm done combing through you I'll go through her. my townread on her is mostly off of overall impression, like how she was wavering on zenith being reminiscent of the game where storn was meme lynched, and how she was willing to explore other options and mindmelded with me EOD0 about a potential wagon on you.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

i liked it too aa i didn't notice his reads flipped so much but i wasn't expecting everyone else to just agree with you like that

that might be a good thing though it's just yeah

yeah I didn't expect it either, I expected some blowback from ymia and some people to point out flaws in my post

the reactions don't change my conclusion about ymia though, especially since he peaced

[Xiz]

You do bring up good points. Granted, the part about me being a wolf is wrong so it's hard for me to really critique the things as a whole when I can see what view your coming from (from both ymia and i together). Like what's really upsetting is how ymia literally didn't say anything to your post.

And it really sucks that ymia left for rest of day now supposedly so lol

I dont know how I wanna read that yet.

[Xiz]

Yet he is still viewing the thread hi ymia

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

so here he presents his lynch candidates for d0, we'll see how this progresses. interesting to note that his read on zenith is either wolf or town who isn't going to help, something that you seem to be ok with lynching either way. another thing to note is that zenith did continue posting so both your reads were wrong

This was a pretty good point. He was dead set on lynching Zenith, according to him, but as you pointed out, he was especially neutral about Zenith after the cop claim.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

how did your read on xiz change from "indescribably strong town gut read" to "null because of dumb vibe bullshit"? let me assume something and correct me if you I'm wrong. You had a gut read on xiz as town, but he made some scummy plays in between that post and this one that make him null for you at this point? yet another example of ymia moving around people with no explanation.

This was also a pretty good point that I didn't even notice. Being flip floppy with a player who hasn't really had strong interactions except for the end of the second day phase and now is like...???

I mean I suppose he could be going off what Xiz was doing in the first day phase, but I don't think he had TOO much of an influence. It was mostly him saying Zenith and RB were bad and then saying I made a good post.

Pretty much it.

[Xiz]

Stop copying me charu

@post 1125

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

ymia has completely not reacted to my post lmao

I shouldn't, but I'm going to assume it's because he's doing holiday stuff.

Also... which post, you mean the huge one? Pretty sure you got him to react to it unless he wasn't responding at all to it.