TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

[Charu]

hmm...

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I feel like we need some contingency plan for visits in case we flip a town
Worst case scenario, we double up on visits on all 3 wolves and get mega dunked

there's ~never 3 wolves in that list because myself, botchi and gs are in there, so I feel pretty safe. Should be safe from your POV too

[thesunfan]

last nights visitations:
botchi- sunfan, AA
sunfan- Red, (Gradiant?)
gs- round, storn
xel- botchi, blind
round- charu, gs
storn- xel, (cedo?)

still missing cedo's visit, but I think he'll say he visited storn regardless of all else

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

why did you vote for Tokzic

You little shit.

I voted Tokzic because of his lack of play. He wasn't completely missing (like doggo), but he wasn't putting forth the strong game he promised in his entrance.

Most of his posts are single words or a sentence with no real umph in them, which is why I think people aren't accounting his scum leans.

On the other hand, his only push that was more than one post (at least a worthwhile post) was on AA.

Also, I missed eod and didn't get to read 8 or so pages, and voted for who I planned on and left. Didn't know there was traction on him.

[storn42]

I had a thought... and it's a thought that none of you Will
Agree with and one we should be talking about, but what if sunfan is a woof... like he is guiding town in where everyone should be going at night, and if he wanted to, could tell the right people to go to his partners and bang! We lose a lot of town members instantly...

Honestly the thing that's making me feel off about sunfan is that I reminded him about how he always reads me wrong, and he was like "you're right I always am wrong!!" And continues to act as if he forgot all about that. It honestly should be a real concern for him since he is more often wrong about me than not and it's almost as of healing doesn't care about if he is wrong.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by storn42

I had a thought... and it's a thought that none of you Will
Agree with and one we should be talking about, but what if sunfan is a woof... like he is guiding town in where everyone should be going at night, and if he wanted to, could tell the right people to go to his partners and bang! We lose a lot of town members instantly...

Honestly the thing that's making me feel off about sunfan is that I reminded him about how he always reads me wrong, and he was like "you're right I always am wrong!!" And continues to act as if he forgot all about that. It honestly should be a real concern for him since he is more often wrong about me than not and it's almost as of healing doesn't care about if he is wrong.

I didn't guide fucking anything I let people choose who they wanted to visit

[thesunfan]

I'm pretty tired of people complaining about this plan when its BREAKING THE GAME HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF TOWN

@storn I didn't manipulate anything. The only time I told people who to visit was when people hadn't posted, and I needed to tell them where to go to fit with the plan, because otherwise, WOLVES GET TO ARM THEMSELVES AND FUCK TOWN OVER.

Honestly, if you had just been here, read the game, and posted about it, you wouldn't have had to have been told to who to visit, you could've nabbed a spot that you wanted

but you weren't here

don't call me wolfy for that. Its your own damn fault.

[thesunfan]

you've got a problem with the plan
you think it could be manipulated
tell me how
tell me a reason why its a bad plan
don't sit there and say I could be a wolf without anything that says the plan is flawed

[thesunfan]

that wasn't all at you, storn, that was at charu and gs as well

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by cedolad

In the meanwhile I've playing Alpha Sapphire over again in preparation for Sun/Moon. Which one are you guys getting?

Moon. Soramimi claimed Sun.

[thesunfan]

if there's a problem with the plan, I don't see it
yeah tonight we have to worry about 3 wolves, and if people are worried that there's somehow 3 wolves in that group of names (which I HIGHLY doubt), then a contingency plan should be made

I don't think that's theres ever 3 wolves in there, though, and wolves could also be visiting their partners, which also screws their math up.

[Charu]

Well, for me, it was because if we announced who we're going for. Yeah, of course we might die and all and the wolf would be outed, but at the same time, it's like...

They can throw at us (especially now with the PR's gone) that "Oh, it wasn't that guy, it was THIS guy" and throw a 50/50 situation where we will never know unless we lynch one or the other.

Example:

Person A says they're going to visit Person C

Person C is a wolf, so arms themselves to kill Person A

Another wolf, lets call Person B, would send in a normal kill to Person D

However, Person D said they would visit Person E, who is not a wolf

So therefore

Person E and Person C would be subjected to an inevitable 50/50 next day. And now due to no PR's, it all comes down to if there's any inconsistencies and slip ups.

If we choose wrong, Person E gets myslynched making the wolves have another chance at another 3-kill gamble (2 confirmed kills and one battle of the wits for lynch) after town obviously lynches off the offender the following day

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

Well, for me, it was because if we announced who we're going for. Yeah, of course we might die and all and the wolf would be outed, but at the same time, it's like...

They can throw at us (especially now with the PR's gone) that "Oh, it wasn't that guy, it was THIS guy" and throw a 50/50 situation where we will never know unless we lynch one or the other.

Example:

Person A says they're going to visit Person C

Person C is a wolf, so arms themselves to kill Person A

Another wolf, lets call Person B, would send in a normal kill to Person D

However, Person D said they would visit Person E, who is not a wolf

So therefore

Person E and Person C would be subjected to an inevitable 50/50 next day. And now due to no PR's, it all comes down to if there's any inconsistencies and slip ups.

If we choose wrong, Person E gets myslynched making the wolves have another chance at another 3-kill gamble (2 confirmed kills and one battle of the wits for lynch) after town obviously lynches off the offender the following day

wholly irrelevant because of double visitations

[Charu]

So... with 8 humans and 3 wolves still at large

That's 3 towns dead from this play, so 5-3

We lynch the offender

5-2

They do it again

2-2

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

So... with 8 humans and 3 wolves still at large

That's 3 towns dead from this play, so 5-3

We lynch the offender

5-2

They do it again

2-2

don't do double visitations when it could realistically lose the game

easy fix

[thesunfan]

obviously, if town is in THAT BAD of a position, its a BAD idea

but we're not in THAT BAD of a position, so its a GOOD idea

[Charu]

I'm just apprehensive I guess.

It just sounds like wasted deaths to me. But I suppose that's the nature of this specific game.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm just apprehensive I guess.

It just sounds like wasted deaths to me. But I suppose that's the nature of this specific game.

its really, really, not wasted deaths, at least not at this point of the game.

If we mislynch today, then yeah, after tonight, the plan would have to be completely abandoned

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

AA- talked enough about him. For someone that talks about being upset that town is in a shitty position and that he's being misread, I feel like he's not actually portraying that frustration very well. Kinda feels like he's using it as an excuse.

ok fuck you greg, I'm not sure what you want from me at this point

I'm not portraying my frustration correctly? I'm trying to stay calm and solve this game so that I can help town as long as I'm alive instead of flipping over, flipping out and not contributing. Do you want me to act frustrated? Because I can be completely useless right now if you want.

[AragakiAyase]

like saying that 100% forces me into a catch-22

oh I'm acting frustrated and not helping? Well we can mislynch you anyways cause you're useless or you're just a wolf trying to frustrate town

oh I'm not acting frustrated and actually making reads? Well we can lynch you cause you must be a wolf using the excuse of being frustrated at town's shitty position